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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
I too, have no desire to see big butts nor have one. Christ... I've watched my mom battle her naturally large butt my whole life. A small butt with a bit of bubble looks best. But others are free to think it looks attractive, of course.
So much shaming. So little time. Smh.
LOL... seriously? It's an "unpopular opinions" thread, in case you missed that.
I'm allowed to find things attractive and unattractive just like everyone else on earth. There's no such thing as "polite" when it comes to what an individual finds visually attractive/unattractive. Because it can't be helped. And I don't recall shaming anyone, either.22 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
I too, have no desire to see big butts nor have one. Christ... I've watched my mom battle her naturally large butt my whole life. A small butt with a bit of bubble looks best. But others are free to think it looks attractive, of course.
So much shaming. So little time. Smh.
LOL... seriously? It's an "unpopular opinions" thread, in case you missed that.
I'm allowed to find things attractive and unattractive just like everyone else on earth. There's no such thing as "polite" when it comes to what an individual finds visually attractive/unattractive. Because it can't be helped. And I don't recall shaming anyone, either.
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chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
Don't look at Instagram, problem solved.11 -
chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
So, unfollow them?!12 -
otterchica wrote: »My very unpopular view is that people need to focus on being better humans, neighbors, friends, co-workers, community members and that fitness/weightloss/health are really very insignificant life goals and should absorb the least amount of mental energy possible. I hate that they are endowed with moral significance and that it's perfectly acceptable to post and praise on all social media "triumphs" and successes--and yet we give no credit and have no interest in people sharing their struggles and successes in becoming more empathetic, better listeners, kinder or more generous. Health is a means to life, but what are we living for is what we should be concentrating on.
okay, dunno if you got drowned in the roar, but i volunteer to like you.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »Lol. It's not a fad to want a strong posterior.
the aesthetic factor of size is a fad though.chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
on the same note, i hate the inguinal ligament thing even more. i didn't even know it was a thing, until someone kindly explained to me WHY the frontal view of those same people always seemed to have their pants hiked all the way down to the waterline in that so-icky way. i just can't wait until someone decrees that that ligament's ugly instead and the whole thing goes away.
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canadianlbs wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Lol. It's not a fad to want a strong posterior.
the aesthetic factor of size is a fad though.chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
on the same note, i hate the inguinal ligament thing even more. i didn't even know it was a thing, until someone kindly explained to me WHY the frontal view of those same people always seemed to have their pants hiked all the way down to the waterline in that so-icky way. i just can't wait until someone decrees that that ligament's ugly instead and the whole thing goes away.
Ah yes, the "V". Been a thing for a long time. Aside from the junk skimming trousers to show it off I'm meh about it.2 -
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canadianlbs wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Lol. It's not a fad to want a strong posterior.
the aesthetic factor of size is a fad though.chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
on the same note, i hate the inguinal ligament thing even more. i didn't even know it was a thing, until someone kindly explained to me WHY the frontal view of those same people always seemed to have their pants hiked all the way down to the waterline in that so-icky way. i just can't wait until someone decrees that that ligament's ugly instead and the whole thing goes away.
Lol no it isn't. Big strong rear ends have always been "in style". Or whatever you want to call it.
It seems like when a certain other culture does something it becomes a "fad", even though it's been around long before that.7 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »canadianlbs wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Lol. It's not a fad to want a strong posterior.
the aesthetic factor of size is a fad though.chloe0wens wrote: »I can't wait for this fad of big butts to pass. I don't think a big *kitten* is all that attractive and I'm sick of my Instagram being full of girls hiking their undies up their butt crack and shoving their bum at the camera.
on the same note, i hate the inguinal ligament thing even more. i didn't even know it was a thing, until someone kindly explained to me WHY the frontal view of those same people always seemed to have their pants hiked all the way down to the waterline in that so-icky way. i just can't wait until someone decrees that that ligament's ugly instead and the whole thing goes away.
Lol no it isn't. Big strong rear ends have always been "in style". Or whatever you want to call it.
It seems like when a certain other culture does something it becomes a "fad", even though it's been around long before that.
Seriously. I'm not that old but I don't remember a time when the booty wasn't the in thing.4 -
I have no idea what cryptic references to certain other cultures mean but big behinds have not always been the thing for the average woman on the street, and they certainly weren't in the UK. There is even a phrase for it: "does my bum look big in this?" and the appropriate answer was never "yes"!
I don't go very far back myself but I remember my mother and her friends in 80s perms together with 80s and 90s music and Seriously!Big *kitten* was not the look you prayed to wake up with the next morning at the time. I remember wanting to grow up to look like Audrey Hepburn, Christie Turlington or Giselle Bündchen, none of who have Kim K arses.
This year, the supermarkets were selling special bum workout DVDs in the New Year's Resolution promotions. Pretty different from the Rosemary Conley videos that used to be the thing!
Times change. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about aesthetic preferences like this, but the fashion has changed. It does that. That's why none of us have beehive hairstyles or Mary Quant minidresses on today. Well, I assume you don't...
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I have no idea what cryptic references to certain other cultures mean but big behinds have not always been the thing for the average woman on the street, and they certainly weren't in the UK. There is even a phrase for it: "does my bum look big in this?" and the appropriate answer was never "yes"!
I don't go very far back myself but I remember my mother and her friends in 80s perms together with 80s and 90s music and Seriously!Big *kitten* was not the look you prayed to wake up with the next morning at the time. I remember wanting to grow up to look like Audrey Hepburn, Christie Turlington or Giselle Bündchen, none of who have Kim K arses.
This year, the supermarkets were selling special bum workout DVDs in the New Years Resolution promotions. Pretty different from the Rosemary Conley videos that used to be the thing!
Times change. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about aesthetic preferences like this, but the fashion has changed. It does that. That's why none of us have beehive hairstyles or Mary Quant minidresses on today. Well, I assume you don't...
*shrug* Dont know anything about the UK but it's always been a thing in my circle.3 -
On the subject of Mary Quant, here is Twiggy wearing one.
Look at the *kitten* on Twiggy. [/sarcasm]
And no, you are not allowed to ask who Twiggy is. Use the power of the google if you don't know.10 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I have no idea what cryptic references to certain other cultures mean but big behinds have not always been the thing for the average woman on the street, and they certainly weren't in the UK. There is even a phrase for it: "does my bum look big in this?" and the appropriate answer was never "yes"!
I don't go very far back myself but I remember my mother and her friends in 80s perms together with 80s and 90s music and Seriously!Big *kitten* was not the look you prayed to wake up with the next morning at the time. I remember wanting to grow up to look like Audrey Hepburn, Christie Turlington or Giselle Bündchen, none of who have Kim K arses.
This year, the supermarkets were selling special bum workout DVDs in the New Years Resolution promotions. Pretty different from the Rosemary Conley videos that used to be the thing!
Times change. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about aesthetic preferences like this, but the fashion has changed. It does that. That's why none of us have beehive hairstyles or Mary Quant minidresses on today. Well, I assume you don't...
*shrug* Dont know anything about the UK but it's always been a thing in my circle.
Is this your circle as in "as far back as I can remember, I wanted to have a big booty" or your circle as in "my grandmother/other female relative showed me a picture of her in her wedding dress in the 50s and proudly reminisced about how her booty was the envy of the neighbourhood" though?
There is a difference, if you see what I mean. I personally don't remember the 1920s and flapper fashions, but they still happened, and my great-grandmother might have been a flapper for all I know.2 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I have no idea what cryptic references to certain other cultures mean but big behinds have not always been the thing for the average woman on the street, and they certainly weren't in the UK. There is even a phrase for it: "does my bum look big in this?" and the appropriate answer was never "yes"!
I don't go very far back myself but I remember my mother and her friends in 80s perms together with 80s and 90s music and Seriously!Big *kitten* was not the look you prayed to wake up with the next morning at the time. I remember wanting to grow up to look like Audrey Hepburn, Christie Turlington or Giselle Bündchen, none of who have Kim K arses.
This year, the supermarkets were selling special bum workout DVDs in the New Years Resolution promotions. Pretty different from the Rosemary Conley videos that used to be the thing!
Times change. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about aesthetic preferences like this, but the fashion has changed. It does that. That's why none of us have beehive hairstyles or Mary Quant minidresses on today. Well, I assume you don't...
*shrug* Dont know anything about the UK but it's always been a thing in my circle.
Is this your circle as in "as far back as I can remember, I wanted to have a big booty" or your circle as in "my grandmother/other female relative showed me a picture of her in her wedding dress in the 50s and proudly reminisced about how her booty was the envy of the neighbourhood" though?
There is a difference, if you see what I mean. I personally don't remember the 1920s and flapper fashions, but they still happened, and my great-grandmother might have been a flapper for all I know.
Both.. Which is why I referred to the cultural thing.
Certain cultures adopt a look and all of a sudden it becomes a fad even though it may have always been a thing in another culture.7 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I have no idea what cryptic references to certain other cultures mean but big behinds have not always been the thing for the average woman on the street, and they certainly weren't in the UK. There is even a phrase for it: "does my bum look big in this?" and the appropriate answer was never "yes"!
I don't go very far back myself but I remember my mother and her friends in 80s perms together with 80s and 90s music and Seriously!Big *kitten* was not the look you prayed to wake up with the next morning at the time. I remember wanting to grow up to look like Audrey Hepburn, Christie Turlington or Giselle Bündchen, none of who have Kim K arses.
This year, the supermarkets were selling special bum workout DVDs in the New Years Resolution promotions. Pretty different from the Rosemary Conley videos that used to be the thing!
Times change. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about aesthetic preferences like this, but the fashion has changed. It does that. That's why none of us have beehive hairstyles or Mary Quant minidresses on today. Well, I assume you don't...
*shrug* Dont know anything about the UK but it's always been a thing in my circle.
Is this your circle as in "as far back as I can remember, I wanted to have a big booty" or your circle as in "my grandmother/other female relative showed me a picture of her in her wedding dress in the 50s and proudly reminisced about how her booty was the envy of the neighbourhood" though?
There is a difference, if you see what I mean. I personally don't remember the 1920s and flapper fashions, but they still happened, and my great-grandmother might have been a flapper for all I know.
Both.. Which is why I referred to the cultural thing.
Certain cultures adopt a look and all of a sudden it becomes a fad even though it may have always been a thing in another culture.
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up then. I was especially confused about that bit.1 -
Seriously. I'm not that old but I don't remember a time when the booty wasn't the in thing.
i am though. maybe that's why i do remember when it wasn't? it depends on your time-scale of reference, but in my own perspective, BIG bums are new. and honestly, a lot of it does seem to me like a case of people wanting something just because they've been so persistently told they want it.
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canadianlbs wrote: »Seriously. I'm not that old but I don't remember a time when the booty wasn't the in thing.
i am though. maybe that's why i do remember when it wasn't? it depends on your time-scale of reference, but in my own perspective, BIG bums are new. and honestly, a lot of it does seem to me like a case of people wanting something just because they've been so persistently told they want it.
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And what I bought for that matter...
For example, exhibit A, the Lava Lamp. Why?
Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!4 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »And what I bought for that matter...
For example, exhibit A, the Lava Lamp. Why?
Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!
You must not have done enough drugs.14 -
cmriverside wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »And what I bought for that matter...
For example, exhibit A, the Lava Lamp. Why?
Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!
You must not have done enough drugs.
Good point, well made.
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canadianlbs wrote: »Seriously. I'm not that old but I don't remember a time when the booty wasn't the in thing.
i am though. maybe that's why i do remember when it wasn't? it depends on your time-scale of reference, but in my own perspective, BIG bums are new. and honestly, a lot of it does seem to me like a case of people wanting something just because they've been so persistently told they want it.
It may seem more popular now, but in the 80s the booty was everywhere.. Sir-Mix-Alot anyone? Lol. I think what it comes down to is about curves. Large breasts, small waist, large hips and booty seem to be idealized for many and isn't a new fad or anything. I'm sure it's popularity can go up and down through time but it seems to come back to that often.7 -
cmriverside wrote: »*unpopular*
So. I lost a lot of weight ten years ago. The people who knew me when I was 220 often are incredulous that I lost and kept the weight off.
Every. Single. One. Does not believe me that I counted calories. They all have a better idea, yet most are just getting bigger. I don't get it, and I've stopped discussing it, but at least once a week someone challenges my method/calorie counting.
Whatever, you jerk.
Thanks. I needed that.
Congratulations on losing and keeping it off! People want quick fixes and easy solutions, and they just don't want to hear about it when something logical but hard works. Good for you for not even discussing it anymore. You don't need that aggravation!2 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!
i loved lava lamps. can't say i remember wanting one of my own, but there was this mysterious store on my way to/from most of the places i was heading for, which had one in the window. one lava lamp on a stand, one (i forget what kind of animal) skull at the foot of the stand, and a total black backdrop to all of it.
no idea to this day what that store was, but oh i loved watching that lamp. the colour on those blobs and their visual texture was what sucked me in.
@sardelsa, sure i remember the 80's. but in my own recollection, the hair was bigger than the butts in that one.6 -
canadianlbs wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one,
but what use was it?!
i loved lava lamps. can't say i remember wanting one of my own, but there was this mysterious store on my way to/from most of the places i was heading for, which had one in the window. one lava lamp on a stand, one (i forget what kind of animal) skull at the foot of the stand, and a total black backdrop to all of it.
no idea to this day what that store was, but oh i loved watching that lamp. the colour on those blobs and their visual texture was what sucked me in.
@sardelsa, sure i remember the 80's. but in my own recollection, the hair was bigger than the butts in that one.
I'm 46 and I remember the 80's. I even liked Sir Mix A Lot. Big butts back then were nothing compared to Kim K. types of excess.
Here is a Big Butt from the 80's from Mix A Lots Video.
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Let's face it, we all know why ridiculous body types are in style (huge breasts and butt, tiny waist)... Too much porn. Porn actresses have fake everything and now women are trying to twist and mangle their bodies into a shape that's not natural to 99% of the population and required surgery to create. That's also part of why corsets & waist trainers are back as an actual fitness tool rather than just a fashion accessory.17
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »Let's face it, we all know why ridiculous body types are in style (huge breasts and butt, tiny waist)... Too much porn. Porn actresses have fake everything and now women are trying to twist and mangle their bodies into a shape that's not natural to 99% of the population and required surgery to create. That's also part of why corsets & waist trainers are back as an actual fitness tool rather than just a fashion accessory.
But.... There's all types of porn. That makes no sense.5 -
Was having a porn conversation today but it was in relation to body hair and young 'uns expectations of how women groom.
But I actually don't think porn has an effect on body types we aspire to as such. That's a mash up of all kinds of stuff and I'd say we're moving away from fake boobs now.3 -
I'm so confused reading this because I personally have very clearly seen a shift in desirable butt size and I'm only 30. In the 90s and early 2000s everyone seemed to want a tiny butt, that whole heroin chic thing that Kate Moss was the poster girl for and then actresses jumped on. I watched Friends recently and was shocked at how the girls looked, so narrow in the hips/butt.
It's only been in the last decade or so that that's seemed to shift from what I've seen, in my own experience.
I'm not assigning a value to either shape but I can definitely say I struggle with accepting my more muscular shape even though it's trendy since I was young and impressionable when skinny hips in ultra-low-rise jeans and little butts were fashionable.
I think there's been a visible shift in popular media for sure though.14 -
It may have always been popular in some circles, but I have also seen a clear shift in mainstream preference. I have no horse in this race as my desired body shape has always been the same regardless of the shifting trends (did not want to look skinny in the 90s and don't want to look muscular now), but to say that there is no difference in popular body shape trends is not true. Look at pictures from the past where women were posing to appear attractive that are not porn. Pictures of women jutting out their butts were much rarer then than now. Common celebrity poses at events are also different now. The pose where a celebrity stands back to the camera and looking at the camera over her shoulder is now more popular than ever. Butt implant surgeries have skyrocketed. We don't even need to look as far as the 90s. Look at these forums. Questions about increasing butt size are more common now than they were a few years ago.
With that said, I think it's okay to have a preference, and it's also okay if that preference matches the current trend. I'm not waiting for this butt craze to peter out because I couldn't care less and people are entitled to their preferences, but we can't deny that there is a butt craze. I personally want my butt to get smaller because the grass is always greener, but yeah.10
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