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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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On this topic, I get lots of sponsored clothes ads on my Facebook news feed, and just yesterday, one ad really stood out, because the model, who wasn't particularly unusual for a clothes model- tall, slim, blonde- had either a very prominent behind or had been asked to pose with it pushed out.
I'm not making a moral judgement here, but(t) column sheath evening dresses weren't marketed in any ad with that kind of photo in the 90s!
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I would agree big butts are quite recent. I'm 35 and also remember when the gamine heroin chic thing was big. And J Lo was never out of the press because she was one of the few women in the public eye with a sizeable derriere.
It's interesting though, actresses are still expected (by the industry) to be very slender, models wafer thin and yet our mainstream definitions of beauty err more towards the fitness model with a round defined butt. I don't know that that's ever happened before, there being such a clear delineation between the three. Possibly because fitness fanatics in the 80s and 90s didn't have a handy platform like Instagram to influence the mainstream.9 -
It's only been in the last decade or so that that's seemed to shift from what I've seen, in my own experience.
absolutely. i'm early 50's and practically my entire life's worth of cultural message from all directions has been about hide the big 'hips'. or even better, lose them. dress to hide them, work to lose them.
for me these cultural body trends really show up when you try to buy clothes. i've been complaining since forever about how baffling most women's clothing is, especially the pants. not just that it doesn't fit me personally, but i've spent my whole life holding stuff up in the changing room and sincerely wondering 'who's shaped like this?'
tight pantlegs has never been new in my life. but pants that are so loose in the seat that i can pinch up to an inch of fabric back there while watching my poor toes turn blue - that most certainly is.7 -
The trend toward a big booty is recent in popular culture and mainstream style. It may have been around longer is some cultures. But I went to high school in the 90s and I clearly remember that slim, flat behinds were "in."
That said, I am kind of glad for the large-posterior trend. I have pretty wide hips, even just the structure ("good birthing hips" lol) and the flat bottom just isn't going to happen for me. I do prefer a nice, toned, curvy booty over the huge bubbles, at least for myself. I don't care what other ladies want for their derrière, that's their business.8 -
As someone who naturally has huge t*ts a big butt and a small waist can I just say that I'm GLAD my body shape is in vogue for once? I grew up feeling like a complete freak of nature. I was built COMPLETELY differently from all the other girls in my class. No one had wide hips. No one had big thighs. Finding clothing that fit right was nearly impossible. It's only been in the last few years that I haven't had to buy jeans from Brazil because North American designers have started making pants with a "curvy" fit, as in nipped in at the waist and more room in the hips and butt. My bust can be 2-3 sizes larger than my waist. Wearing a button up shirt is basically a non-option.
So yeah, some of you guys may hate the look. You may think that exaggerated curves are rediculous. You may think the big butt thing has gotten out of hand. But for someone that's been basically excluded from the fashion industry since she was 8 years old because designers don't believe your proportions exist, this has been a WONDERFUL shift.
Finding affordable clothing that actually fits is something that most people take for granted. And while it will never be as easy for me to find inexpensive clothing,( like all those trendy fast fashion stores? Forget about it!) I'm super greatful that this trend has at least given me some workable options.
*Oh and I'm not talking about plus sizes, I'm talking straight sizes. Oh and I'm 30, so Kate Moss was still around when I was young.28 -
Anyone who watches porn knows that "huge tits and big butts" is not a thing. Most women are a B or C cup. Almost any women with a healthy BMI can get into porn. If you care to look up there are stats and studies that back this up. Or you can just go to a tube site and see for yourself.
Source: Many hours of research.8 -
As for unpopular opinions:
Keto is stupid.6 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »Anyone who watches porn knows that "huge tits and big butts" is not a thing. Most women are a B or C cup. Almost any women with a healthy BMI can get into porn. If you care to look up there are stats and studies that back this up. Or you can just go to a tube site and see for yourself.
Source: Many hours of research.
Unless of course you look for that type.
Source: My eyes.7 -
MsHarryWinston wrote: »As someone who naturally has huge t*ts a big butt and a small waist can I just say that I'm GLAD my body shape is in vogue for once? I grew up feeling like a complete freak of nature. I was built COMPLETELY differently from all the other girls in my class. No one had wide hips. No one had big thighs. Finding clothing that fit right was nearly impossible. It's only been in the last few years that I haven't had to buy jeans from Brazil because North American designers have started making pants with a "curvy" fit, as in nipped in at the waist and more room in the hips and butt. My bust can be 2-3 sizes larger than my waist. Wearing a button up shirt is basically a non-option.
So yeah, some of you guys may hate the look. You may think that exaggerated curves are rediculous. You may think the big butt thing has gotten out of hand. But for someone that's been basically excluded from the fashion industry since she was 8 years old because designers don't believe your proportions exist, this has been a WONDERFUL shift.
Finding affordable clothing that actually fits is something that most people take for granted. And while it will never be as easy for me to find inexpensive clothing,( like all those trendy fast fashion stores? Forget about it!) I'm super greatful that this trend has at least given me some workable options.
*Oh and I'm not talking about plus sizes, I'm talking straight sizes. Oh and I'm 30, so Kate Moss was still around when I was young.
Preach. Except the bit about finding clothes that fit now. UK high street still isn't accommodating my body shape. But I have a slight advantage that I wear vintage and reproduction and there are a few indie brands that make for a curvier cut.4 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Geocitiesuser wrote: »Anyone who watches porn knows that "huge tits and big butts" is not a thing. Most women are a B or C cup. Almost any women with a healthy BMI can get into porn. If you care to look up there are stats and studies that back this up. Or you can just go to a tube site and see for yourself.
Source: Many hours of research.
Unless of course you look for that type.
Source: My eyes.
Obviously. You can find literally any sort of porn. However the vast majority of it does not have "big tits big butts" like society is trying to push. That is a fabrication. Again, there are multiple studies that show that the average porn actress is a size B or C cup and is not an "hour glass" with a big butt.
Top link on google when searching for "average physical traits of porn star"
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-what-the-average-porn-star-looks-like?utm_term=.rggdLQ7xY#.jpQ3YVy4z
First thing in the headline is B size cup. "men like thick women" is a complete lie for the majority of the population.2 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Geocitiesuser wrote: »Anyone who watches porn knows that "huge tits and big butts" is not a thing. Most women are a B or C cup. Almost any women with a healthy BMI can get into porn. If you care to look up there are stats and studies that back this up. Or you can just go to a tube site and see for yourself.
Source: Many hours of research.
Unless of course you look for that type.
Source: My eyes.
Obviously. You can find literally any sort of porn. However the vast majority of it does not have "big tits big butts" like society is trying to push. That is a fabrication. Again, there are multiple studies that show that the average porn actress is a size B or C cup and is not an "hour glass" with a big butt.
Top link on google when searching for "average physical traits of porn star"
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-what-the-average-porn-star-looks-like?utm_term=.rggdLQ7xY#.jpQ3YVy4z
First thing in the headline is B size cup. "men like thick women" is a complete lie for the majority of the population.
Lol I have no idea what we are even debating anymore. :laugh:5 -
Geocitiesuser wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »Geocitiesuser wrote: »Anyone who watches porn knows that "huge tits and big butts" is not a thing. Most women are a B or C cup. Almost any women with a healthy BMI can get into porn. If you care to look up there are stats and studies that back this up. Or you can just go to a tube site and see for yourself.
Source: Many hours of research.
Unless of course you look for that type.
Source: My eyes.
Obviously. You can find literally any sort of porn. However the vast majority of it does not have "big tits big butts" like society is trying to push. That is a fabrication. Again, there are multiple studies that show that the average porn actress is a size B or C cup and is not an "hour glass" with a big butt.
Top link on google when searching for "average physical traits of porn star"
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-what-the-average-porn-star-looks-like?utm_term=.rggdLQ7xY#.jpQ3YVy4z
First thing in the headline is B size cup. "men like thick women" is a complete lie for the majority of the population.
Oh no you din't.
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VintageFeline wrote: »MsHarryWinston wrote: »As someone who naturally has huge t*ts a big butt and a small waist can I just say that I'm GLAD my body shape is in vogue for once? I grew up feeling like a complete freak of nature. I was built COMPLETELY differently from all the other girls in my class. No one had wide hips. No one had big thighs. Finding clothing that fit right was nearly impossible. It's only been in the last few years that I haven't had to buy jeans from Brazil because North American designers have started making pants with a "curvy" fit, as in nipped in at the waist and more room in the hips and butt. My bust can be 2-3 sizes larger than my waist. Wearing a button up shirt is basically a non-option.
So yeah, some of you guys may hate the look. You may think that exaggerated curves are rediculous. You may think the big butt thing has gotten out of hand. But for someone that's been basically excluded from the fashion industry since she was 8 years old because designers don't believe your proportions exist, this has been a WONDERFUL shift.
Finding affordable clothing that actually fits is something that most people take for granted. And while it will never be as easy for me to find inexpensive clothing,( like all those trendy fast fashion stores? Forget about it!) I'm super greatful that this trend has at least given me some workable options.
*Oh and I'm not talking about plus sizes, I'm talking straight sizes. Oh and I'm 30, so Kate Moss was still around when I was young.
Preach. Except the bit about finding clothes that fit now. UK high street still isn't accommodating my body shape. But I have a slight advantage that I wear vintage and reproduction and there are a few indie brands that make for a curvier cut.
Oh it's still nearly impossible for me to shop locally but this year I've learned about a few online shops in the US like FashionNova that offer really curvy fit jeans. And since the US is closer than Brazil I consider it a win, lol. (I'm in Canada).
I can find some pants that generally fit here but I still get the huge gap in the back at my waist.
And YAAAAAS vintage styles. Pencil skirts and wiggle dresses for life.
Oh and I get my bras from the U.K., because they actually understand bras and boob sizes! My bra size doesn't even exist in North America! NO JOKE. It doesn't exist here. Even when I'm at my low healthy weight.4 -
I think that we have become overly desensitized to the amount of chemicals, additives, etc... we put into our bodies. Aspartame, sugar, and the plethora of processed foods, preservatives and sweeteners are chemicals that our body doesn't always know what to do with.
I think diets are stupid - paleo may be the worst. Evolution didn't design our bodies to eat that much meat and fat. All of the phosphorus, the high amounts of animal protein, the high amount of fat - ketosis is a survival strategy our body uses, not it's preferred method of energy consumption. It's hard on your kidneys to boot.
My rule for eating: Eat as much natural/whole foods as possible, don't eat too much, and eat mostly plants. That's how evolution designed us to eat. We eat way too much meat.
I also think that losing weight is relatively simple, but it takes discipline. If you can't stop eating ice cream, for example, then stop buying it! If it isn't an option, you won't eat it. Tracking your food helps you count calories, but it also gives you insight into how your eating habits inform your health and your nutrition. It's hard to get the vitamins and minerals your body needs when you eat fast food and/or you only take in 1,000 calories per day.
Just my 2 cents.
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brimbporter wrote: »I think that we have become overly desensitized to the amount of chemicals, additives, etc... we put into our bodies. Aspartame, sugar, and the plethora of processed foods, preservatives and sweeteners are chemicals that our body doesn't always know what to do with.
I think diets are stupid - paleo may be the worst. Evolution didn't design our bodies to eat that much meat and fat. All of the phosphorus, the high amounts of animal protein, the high amount of fat - ketosis is a survival strategy our body uses, not it's preferred method of energy consumption. It's hard on your kidneys to boot.
My rule for eating: Eat as much natural/whole foods as possible, don't eat too much, and eat mostly plants. That's how evolution designed us to eat. We eat way too much meat.
I also think that losing weight is relatively simple, but it takes discipline. If you can't stop eating ice cream, for example, then stop buying it! If it isn't an option, you won't eat it. Tracking your food helps you count calories, but it also gives you insight into how your eating habits inform your health and your nutrition. It's hard to get the vitamins and minerals your body needs when you eat fast food and/or you only take in 1,000 calories per day.
Just my 2 cents.
Whole foods are great. Plants are fine... but we did evolve to eat fat and meat. Ketosis is not just a survival strategy, and once you've become fat adapted your body does use fat as a fuel source first. That's why we store extra calories as fats and not as a starch or sugar.
And fat is not hard on the kidneys.9 -
I think women should just stop value-judging their own bodies' appearance compared to other women's bodies, criticizing other women's bodies' appearance, questioning whether other women really fit the jeans size they say they do or weigh what they say they do, etc.
Women should optimize themselves according to their own values (ideally within bounds of adequate health), and support each other as they each do so. (As some already do.)
Yeah, not gonna happen. But it's my opinion. "Be excellent to each other" is not just a movie tagline.
(Men? Don't know how they regard each other, not my neighborhood, not my problem.)23 -
brimbporter wrote: »I think that we have become overly desensitized to the amount of chemicals, additives, etc... we put into our bodies. Aspartame, sugar, and the plethora of processed foods, preservatives and sweeteners are chemicals that our body doesn't always know what to do with.
This idea that we are fat because our body doesn't know what to do with something is odd to me. We get fat because our body can use something and we consume too much of it (so the excess gets stored as fat). If our bodies had no idea what to do with it, it wouldn't be used.
Sugar is a good example -- our body knows what to do with it, we crave it, and fat, because they are easy sources of calories which back in the day was a good thing.I think diets are stupid - paleo may be the worst. Evolution didn't design our bodies to eat that much meat and fat.
I think paleo is silly too, as I see zero reason why legumes in particular are bad for us, but paleo doesn't demand that you eat huge amounts of meat. You can do a vegetable centered paleo diet and, indeed, I've seen many examples of the diet (which seem healthful to me) focused on eating lots of vegetables plus some protein (usually eggs or meat given the no grains, dairy, legumes thing), some tubers, etc.My rule for eating: Eat as much natural/whole foods as possible, don't eat too much, and eat mostly plants. That's how evolution designed us to eat.
I think this is a good way to eat, it's my bias too, but evolution didn't "design" us to do anything, that's not how evolution worked, and there were/are a variety of human environments and diets, some of which were quite low meat and some of which were quite high meat (and it may have varied based on the season). Where I am now, absent some kind of storage technology (which can be quite low tech, granted) fresh produce in the winter wouldn't be that easy, for example.
Lucky for me, I can get it year round, because it's 2017.I also think that losing weight is relatively simple, but it takes discipline. If you can't stop eating ice cream, for example, then stop buying it! If it isn't an option, you won't eat it. Tracking your food helps you count calories, but it also gives you insight into how your eating habits inform your health and your nutrition. It's hard to get the vitamins and minerals your body needs when you eat fast food and/or you only take in 1,000 calories per day.
I agree, except the last sentence seems like a bit of a strawman.
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I think women should just stop value-judging their own bodies' appearance compared to other women's bodies, criticizing other women's bodies' appearance, questioning whether other women really fit the jeans size they say they do or weigh what they say they do, etc.
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(Men? Don't know how they regard each other, not my neighborhood, not my problem.)
I like this mentality.
As for men, we are a little more competitive by nature, so when we see another guy with a great body or a bunch of money, we are more inclined to be inspired to be like that or exceed that, so comparing ourselves to others tends to be a little less negative and a little more like lighting a fire under our butts.5 -
cmriverside wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »And what I bought for that matter...
For example, exhibit A, the Lava Lamp. Why?
Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!
You must not have done enough drugs.
Lava lamps and black light posters.
Those were the days, my friends. 7 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »And what I bought for that matter...
For example, exhibit A, the Lava Lamp. Why?
Yes, I know, everyone I knew was buying one, but what use was it?!
You must not have done enough drugs.
Lava lamps and black light posters.
Those were the days, my friends.
We thought they'd never end.5 -
We'd sing and dance forever and a day...2
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We'd live the life we'd choose..2
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We'd fight and never loose lose...
(LOL. Couldn't resist.
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For we were young and sure to have our way....2
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RIP Lost Youth.5 -
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While I tend to agree with you, I think that eating a paleo diet like what you mentioned works better for those eating a lower calorie diet. Once you get into 2400+, IMO it seems like a hard diet to follow without eating a lot of fat and meat.lemurcat12 wrote: »brimbporter wrote: »I think diets are stupid - paleo may be the worst. Evolution didn't design our bodies to eat that much meat and fat.
I think paleo is silly too, as I see zero reason why legumes in particular are bad for us, but paleo doesn't demand that you eat huge amounts of meat. You can do a vegetable centered paleo diet and, indeed, I've seen many examples of the diet (which seem healthful to me) focused on eating lots of vegetables plus some protein (usually eggs or meat given the no grains, dairy, legumes thing), some tubers, etc.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
Me neither. I came of age in Florida in the early 70s. Drinking age was 18 - and that was the least of my problems.
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cmriverside wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »
Me neither. I came of age in Florida in the early 70s. Drinking age was 18 - and that was the least of my problems.
People who remember the 70's clearly didn't live them. 6 -
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