July 2017 Running Challenge
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skatardrummer wrote: »I'm brand new to running and use the C5k app...not much of July left, so will set my goal to 15 miles since I'm slow and very overweight, so I have to do it the right way to build up. I'm also doing a cardio class twice a week
As someone who is not that far ahead of you, 15 miles in 2 weeks is a pretty aggressive goal for C25K! I didn't get up to 2.5 miles of combined walk-run until Week 6.1 -
Hi guys. I want a mulligan on July. Besides having an injury, my ac went out this past weekend when it was 102 outside. It's now kinda working but sounds subpar so I'm not holding my breath. I felt sick like I got overheated in my own house so I'm just now feeling back up to working out. I just wanted to drop in and say I must be a true runner because I just had to search through my emails and my bank account to see if I signed up yet for a 5k in August. I'm sure the registration people would laugh if they saw my name twice.
Not to diverge from running, but has anyone in here ever done a benefit climb up like a skyscraper? There's one in March for American Lung Association I think is 80 flights or more. I have asthma so it's near and dear. I'm just not sure if my legs and lungs can handle it.3 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Thanks @ctlaws44 ! It does feel really great. I think my favorite part is how I just feel like a stronger runner. Even when I'm tired and beat, I don't really worry anymore about not being able to finish whatever distance I've set out to accomplish, because I've gained so much confidence in having the strength to gut it out. Best of luck to you on your marathon training! It's pretty cool that we're starting it in the same week!
Yes, to know you have reserve and a "cruise gear" to keep going is a great feeling! Thanks! I'm doing the marathon with a running buddy of mine who's done dozens of marathons and he's nonchalant about the training plan. This will be my first marathon so I'm a little nervous. He'll just register for a destination marathon last minute and finish them with decent times. Yes, that's good we're starting at the same time. I'm going to follow you on Strava so I can feel better that I'm following somewhat of a plan.
Nice!
Ha, yeah, must be nice to just be able to sign up for marathons willy nilly, lol. Are you guys following any kind of plan, or just winging it? My plan is kinda intense, so hopefully I can keep up with it!0 -
@hesfeld, mulligan granted.
@skatardrummer, welcome!!
@LittleMissWonderWoman, fellow dancer-while-running here. Whenever I reach a new goal I can't help it.
@BruinsGal_91, congratulations on your AG win!
3.5 horrific miles on the treadmill yesterday. First time I've ran (run?) on a treadmill in a long time and it was so hard. I couldn't find my stride, couldn't catch my breath, went slower than normal for quite a while, and it was boring and seemed like it was taking forever. Plus, the treadmill incline wasn't working on either machine I tried so I hadto run with it flat. Won't be doing that again if I can help it.
July total: 38.11 / 60
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KatieJane83 wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »Thanks @ctlaws44 ! It does feel really great. I think my favorite part is how I just feel like a stronger runner. Even when I'm tired and beat, I don't really worry anymore about not being able to finish whatever distance I've set out to accomplish, because I've gained so much confidence in having the strength to gut it out. Best of luck to you on your marathon training! It's pretty cool that we're starting it in the same week!
Yes, to know you have reserve and a "cruise gear" to keep going is a great feeling! Thanks! I'm doing the marathon with a running buddy of mine who's done dozens of marathons and he's nonchalant about the training plan. This will be my first marathon so I'm a little nervous. He'll just register for a destination marathon last minute and finish them with decent times. Yes, that's good we're starting at the same time. I'm going to follow you on Strava so I can feel better that I'm following somewhat of a plan.
Nice!
Ha, yeah, must be nice to just be able to sign up for marathons willy nilly, lol. Are you guys following any kind of plan, or just winging it? My plan is kinda intense, so hopefully I can keep up with it!
K, good luck with your plan. I'm sure if you follow it pretty good, you'll feel ready. I'm trying to follow a plan my buddy gave me but it just lists distances on days. Later in the plan it just says "Speed Day 5.0 miles". What do I do with that Patches O'Houlihan?!? After reading a lot of this thread, I feel like there should be different kinds of runs like Tempo and Interval. I'm going to get out to a track and do some speed work like I see you and the others do.0 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »KatieJane83 wrote: »Thanks @ctlaws44 ! It does feel really great. I think my favorite part is how I just feel like a stronger runner. Even when I'm tired and beat, I don't really worry anymore about not being able to finish whatever distance I've set out to accomplish, because I've gained so much confidence in having the strength to gut it out. Best of luck to you on your marathon training! It's pretty cool that we're starting it in the same week!
Yes, to know you have reserve and a "cruise gear" to keep going is a great feeling! Thanks! I'm doing the marathon with a running buddy of mine who's done dozens of marathons and he's nonchalant about the training plan. This will be my first marathon so I'm a little nervous. He'll just register for a destination marathon last minute and finish them with decent times. Yes, that's good we're starting at the same time. I'm going to follow you on Strava so I can feel better that I'm following somewhat of a plan.
Nice!
Ha, yeah, must be nice to just be able to sign up for marathons willy nilly, lol. Are you guys following any kind of plan, or just winging it? My plan is kinda intense, so hopefully I can keep up with it!
K, good luck with your plan. I'm sure if you follow it pretty good, you'll feel ready. I'm trying to follow a plan my buddy gave me but it just lists distances on days. Later in the plan it just says "Speed Day 5.0 miles". What do I do with that Patches O'Houlihan?!? After reading a lot of this thread, I feel like there should be different kinds of runs like Tempo and Interval. I'm going to get out to a track and do some speed work like I see you and the others do.
Well, my resident office crazy marathoner (who I got my training plan recommendation from), and who regularly BQs, and places quite far forward in the corrals/waves, told me that the most important type of run in the plan is the LT tempo run. I think he also said the VO2 max runs were important. I have another acquaintance who does fulls and ultras also tell me the tempo run is super important. So, take that for what it is, lol. I'm pretty sure, that at the level that at least I am at, having never run a full marathon before, that any type of speed training is going to be beneficial, and I probably shouldn't be too stressed about getting the right types on the right days in the right weeks, lol.
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Hydration pack advice.
I know my miles aren't long. But it's haaaawwwt. I found one I want. The question is: what bladder size is best? I have the option of 1-4L. I anticipate my longest runs (ever) to be half distances.
Thoughts?
More Orange Mud https://www.orangemud.com/products/bpvp70?variant=16940288324
Or the 1L one? Which I am partial to. Smaller, lighter. But is 1L adequate. I currently don't drink that much on a run. oh guess I could get both...give one to DH.... Then I can use his (stinky, sweaty gear). Hmm. Nah.
https://www.orangemud.com/products/gear-vest-1l
I have a 2L orange mud one and it does great. They aren't too big either way and it holds enough for me to run 16 miles through the desert and make it out the other side before hitting empty. At 5'9" I would call the 2L extremely comfortable for my size, it fits all around. The chest is getting close to being on the tight side though (the strap is all the way out) but everywhere else is good. If you are smaller than me then maybe the 1-1,5L would be better size wise and as long as you aren't charging out into the middle of nowhere that amount of water should last a good while.
Yay! I'm am smaller. 5'5" female. Sorry to hear the chest is getting tight on yours. Maybe that's a good thing, if you're working on it?
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skatardrummer wrote: »I'm brand new to running and use the C5k app...not much of July left, so will set my goal to 15 miles since I'm slow and very overweight, so I have to do it the right way to build up. I'm also doing a cardio class twice a week
Welcome. I am just starting too. I am on week 2 day 2 of C25k.0 -
I got up at 4 to run trail before Ben got up to go to work. There were parts of a dead animal (I think cat or rabbit but hard to tell) all over the trail all of a sudden but I was too far in for turning around to make sense.
So I have my bear mace out, I'm trying to gun it through to try to avoid confronting the bear or cougar (we have both roaming town) that left it's breakfast all over the damn place and I struck a root wrong. Rolled my ankle bad and actually had to stop for a second because *kitten* ow. Then I heard that "woman screaming" coyote call and decided to get over it and run lol.
Now I can only barely weight bear and the only way I can flex my foot is onto my toes like this:
I do not have time for this *kitten*. Going to the ER in an hour after talking to HealthLink.
In short, *kitten* you too roots.
July 1- 9.7
July 2- 5
July 3- Off
July 4- 11.7
July 6- 12.1
July 7- 7.6
July 8- 21
July 9- 20.5
July 10- Off
July 11- 18
July 12 -19
July 13- 15
July 14- 20
July 15- 30
July 16- 17
July 17- 13
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I am always impressed how many of you run in the morning!
I just tried it again today (like each summer), and the conclusion is the same as always: I am absolutely not a morning runner. It's not (only) getting up early, it's about breakfast and toilets... [TMI] Eating solid food is out of question - unless I wait at least 90min, I'm just going it throw it up again. Weirdly, I can eat a meal and run 15min later in the evening no problem, but after just waking up, not a chance. So I only had a smoothie and spent half an hour getting dressed, preparing breakfast for later and just moving around in general, used the toilet and set out to run. And 2km later already strongly felt the need to go looking for a loo again... Again, only happens to me when I try running in the morning. I had my route planned to lead past a public toilet, but that was after ~4km, and the last km was really not enjoyable running at all... Actually, the toilet was at 3.8km, but since I was doing "1.5km warmup; 5x (1km fast, 0.5km rest) I was still 200m before the end of the second speed interval when I reached it, and sprinting past it was probably the hardest moment of the workout this morning ;-p [/TMI]
And during the later part of the run I really struggled, I guess after doing 30min strength training before bed last night and no breakfast this morning there wasn't much glucogene left in the leg muscles...
Oh, and to top it off, just as I was in the shower I got a call from work about a technical emergency and could I please come in right now...? So I didn't get to eat my breakfast after all
I guess that would have happened in any case, but skipping breakfast is much easier if you didn't get up more than two hours earlier than usual and run 10km instead of eating anything!
Though in all fairness to morning running, the tired legs might have also partly be a bit of lasting soreness from my hike on Sunday. Only 10km, but with roughly 1000m elevation, so on average 20% slope up and down. Not-on-average, the first part was a gentle 7% climb, followed by segments like this:
Crazy, isn't it? What's really crazy is that there are "3 attempts" for the hiking segment on Strava, but "14 attempts" for the corresponding running segment. I like running in the mountains too, but that path?! While it took me 32min walking without any mentionable breaks, the fastest guy got up this part of the in 17min, I can't even imagine how he did that!
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@KatieJane83 - That feeling when you have a great run is so awesome! I love your pictures - such a beautiful view! Also you and @ctlaws44 might ping our resident BQ marathon runner, @MobyCarp to weigh in on training plans and best training runs!
@skatardrummer - Welcome!! Many here have started with or are using C25K and it seems to work well.
@MNLittleFinn - I had a similar injury from dehydration cramping. Rest and PT took care of it fairly quickly. Hope your recovery goes well!
@ddmom0811 - yuck termites are the worst! Will you have to have the house tented or do they just treat in place like for subterranean termites. We have had both... at one time we actually had 3 kinds all in one piece of external wood. Our termite guy was so excited he cut it out to use for to show people... Hope your ankle is feeling better.
@RespectTheKitty - love the park where you get to run! Looks lovely and cool.1 -
@carolineb81 Congratulations on your first race!!! And below 30min too, that's awesome
@Elise4270 Gah, don't ever write "google it if you dare" anywhere I can read it! Can't say to to a dare. Ugh, I did NOT need to see those pictures or read that rat king wiki page. And I'm afraid it's one of those things I'll remember for all eternity now.
@katharmonic
I had a look at the "Undress" you linked and it looks really useful. For running I just throw a towel on my car seat before driving home, but maybe for swimming? Although I don't see how it would work with a one-piece swimsuit, guess you can only use it with bikinis...
@JessicaMcB Oh no, I'm sorry about your ankle! And what a scary moment on the trail. Glad you didn't get eaten; I hope the ankle is not a serious injury!
@BruinsGal_91 Congratulations on the age group win!
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@JessicaMcB - Oh no!! I hope it is nothing too serious and 'just' a sprain although I know they can take a while to heal!0
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@Elise4270 Both hydration packs are tiny and adorable. Thank you for sharing them. I will have to pick one up if I decide to do another half. I have one I bought from Costco, and it is humongous in comparison to those. They look perfect.
@MNLittleFinn and @MobyCarp Congratulations on your races. Loved the race reports! Sorry to hear you are feeling injured @MNLittleFinn. Hope it just needs a little recovery.
@ddmom0811 Sorry for your third misfortune. Yes, you should have had your fill now. Time for some good luck!
@cburke8909 I have had two VO2 max tests. My max hr was 201 and 203 and my lactate threshold was 175 for the first one and 181 for the second. The people doing the tests insist there is no norm and everyone is different and should find their own thresholds/zones (admittedly, they are profiting from that idea). My Zone 1 is 128-141 and Zone 2 is 142-157. My husband is 50 and his max hr is in the low 180s. His zone 1 is around 100-112. I tried to do a lactate test on a track (5 min warm-up then set pace increasing every 3 mins until you feel you can't go another step) and it came very close to replicating the actual test. I didn't push myself quite as much as in the actual test as I only got my max up to 195, but if you factor in that you probably could go a minute or so longer, you could just add on 3 or 4 beats and figure you got close enough. If you don't have a race time to use, there are a few different lactate threshold tests described online that you can try yourself.2 -
July 18: 3.08 km and strength
MTD: 40.82 / 75 km
I started doing Strong Curves (strength training focusing on the glutes/legs) last week and I am achy all the time. As long as I can make myself go for a run after, it doesn't seem to be having a negative impact on my performance. Today, I ran for 20 mins without a walk break, which is a quick improvement for me after taking so many months off. I still have to do a run/walk in the warm-up and cool-down to keep my hr where I want it to be, but I love seeing progress.3 -
@_nikkiwolf_ I was watching Casual and there was a rat episode. Of course, I had to Google it and see what the heck. Its sad thing. I can't imagine how that even happens to rats, mice and squirrels. Such an odd thing. Like you, I had to read all about it, several times. Haha!
@RunRachelleRun I have a Walmart hydration pack for hiking (long walks). I suppose I could use it on the bike, but I bet it doesn't stay put very well. I love orange mud products. So I think thats way I'll go. I was originally looking for a Nathan. I'll probably order it today. I think if I went with the 1L, DH couldn't borrow it
Maybe not even the 2L! I think, if he still has his Walmart one, it's under his truck seat, since... Uhohhh a year and a half ago? 
(he didn't bother cleaning it) So I'll hafta hide a new one. 1 -
Hi fellow runners!
7/3: 8.1k -easy run-
7/4: 12.6k -intervals-
7/6: 10.8k -2.5k w/u+8.3k progressive running-
7/8: 8.5k -recovery after 2.2k swimming-
7/9: 15.1k -Long run-
7/10: -strength training-
7/11: 10.7k -intervals-
7/12: rest day due to terrible headache
7/14: 13k -2.6k w/u, 8k Tempo, 2.4k c/d-
7/15: 7.3k -Easy running-
7/17: 5.1k -Urban run-
7/18: 14k -w/u+Tempo-
I am enjoying to run this season. A long time away from injuries is a blessing!
105.2k/140k
Stay hydrated!
Upcoming races:
7/29: 4th Nea Peramos Aquathlon
9/16: 4th Kavala Night City Run 10k
9/24: Xiropotamos Trail 2017 11k
10/1: Voreia Sirris Challenge 23k
10/15: Nestos Trail VFTU 10k
11/26: 4th Democritus Half Marathon
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@MNLittleFinn gotta be careful with those elementary special ed kids - my mom is still under observation for a major concussion one of her students (also does elementary special ed) students gave her via head butting in May.
In other news.... my GP finally got back to me - with no more specifics but a "if it is still hurting after this long (5 weeks-ish no running and YES I have listened) we should consider PT and MRI" .... yes still hurting, not as bad, and the one doesn't seem swollen anymore, but 5 weeks rest will do that. The one ankle still pops when I walk.... the one achilles still seems rather unhappy.
But, my actual question is -- would it be unwise of me to attempt an interval run tonight to see how BADLY it still hurts before I chose to go down this path? I am aware that I am biased by being a cheapskate and not caring for/not having positive experiences with medical professionals in general. So I figured I would crowd source before I did something dumb out of spite.0 -
@MNLittleFinn gotta be careful with those elementary special ed kids - my mom is still under observation for a major concussion one of her students (also does elementary special ed) students gave her via head butting in May.
In other news.... my GP finally got back to me - with no more specifics but a "if it is still hurting after this long (5 weeks-ish no running and YES I have listened) we should consider PT and MRI" .... yes still hurting, not as bad, and the one doesn't seem swollen anymore, but 5 weeks rest will do that. The one ankle still pops when I walk.... the one achilles still seems rather unhappy.
But, my actual question is -- would it be unwise of me to attempt an interval run tonight to see how BADLY it still hurts before I chose to go down this path? I am aware that I am biased by being a cheapskate and not caring for/not having positive experiences with medical professionals in general. So I figured I would crowd source before I did something dumb out of spite.
Ouch! I on the headbutt! I'd run and check it out. Of course, if it hurts be prepared to stop and console yourself with a treat. I suggest a frozen yogurt waffle cone.0 -
Well, at least I look ok for 22.8 miles into the suffer fest I had
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@MNLittleFinn gotta be careful with those elementary special ed kids - my mom is still under observation for a major concussion one of her students (also does elementary special ed) students gave her via head butting in May.
In other news.... my GP finally got back to me - with no more specifics but a "if it is still hurting after this long (5 weeks-ish no running and YES I have listened) we should consider PT and MRI" .... yes still hurting, not as bad, and the one doesn't seem swollen anymore, but 5 weeks rest will do that. The one ankle still pops when I walk.... the one achilles still seems rather unhappy.
But, my actual question is -- would it be unwise of me to attempt an interval run tonight to see how BADLY it still hurts before I chose to go down this path? I am aware that I am biased by being a cheapskate and not caring for/not having positive experiences with medical professionals in general. So I figured I would crowd source before I did something dumb out of spite.
@hanlonsk - YES it would be unwise to run intervals to test how bad an injury is. When something in your running chain is injured, iffy, or even just doubtful, the *FIRST* thing to cut out is speed work. Been there, ran through the pain (which wasn't all *that* bad!), ended up with a 16 mile month the month afterward.
Depending on what the issue is, sometimes you can get better simply by backing off the mileage a little and running everything easy. But keeping up on the speed work is likely to delay getting better, at best. At worst, you put yourself on the couch for a long time.
Rest. For as long as it takes. So it won't take longer.
That having been said, if you do end up in PT try to get in with a PT who does sports injuries and athletes. You can get some exercises tailored to exactly what your issue is, and some of them will be worth permanent inclusion in your routine to avoid future issues.2 -
@MobyCarp - I should have been more specific - when I say interval run I mean run/walk intervals - easy is about the only pace I have - anything less than 10min miles for me is like down hill with the wind on a perfect day. Realistically, if i were to try the running, since I have been out long enough to NOT be heat acclimated - and its like 100 degrees - it would probably be treadmill intervals with the runs at 12min mile pace. I am not a sophisticated enough/fast enough runner to have speed work as part of my routine even when I am in good shape. I think one has to have speed first for that to work.
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@hanlonsk - Yeah, run/walk intervals with the runs at an easy-for-you pace would be an okay way to test recovery. Be prepared to abort a running interval if it doesn't feel totally right.
Speed work is relative. I know runners with mile race times slower than my easy runs; but they still do speed work at paces that are fast-for-them, and all the concerns about speed work on top of injury would still apply to them.0 -
@MobyCarp - how do you feel about unofficial intervals? Like I mention in my running report from last night...PastorVincent wrote: »Today's run was intended just a get back on the band wagon run. Was figuring all zone 2, but while out there I randomly decided to run faster in short stretches. Over all spent 30% of the run in Zone 3. I am still hoping to get a MP below 9 minutes, but it seems so far away right now. I recall reading someplace that runs that have random speed ups in them were a good way to increase pace. I hope that is true, cause that is a work out I can probably manage to do with some regularity.
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PastorVincent wrote: »@MobyCarp - how do you feel about unofficial intervals? Like I mention in my running report from last night...PastorVincent wrote: »Today's run was intended just a get back on the band wagon run. Was figuring all zone 2, but while out there I randomly decided to run faster in short stretches. Over all spent 30% of the run in Zone 3. I am still hoping to get a MP below 9 minutes, but it seems so far away right now. I recall reading someplace that runs that have random speed ups in them were a good way to increase pace. I hope that is true, cause that is a work out I can probably manage to do with some regularity.
Disclaimer: I am NOT MobyCarp and do not claim to have anywhere near his level of experience/knowledge.
But, unofficial intervals are actually an official type of speed training, lol. They're called fartleks (I love that word, hehe). Basically picking random stretches to speed up and then recover in between. Often it's done with physical things on your route as reference, for example: run fast to the mailbox, then recover to the lamp post, then fast again to the next mailbox, then recover to the street sign, etc. runnersworld.com/fartlek0 -
KatieJane83 wrote: »Disclaimer: I am NOT @MobyCarp and do not claim to have anywhere near his level of experience/knowledge.
But, unofficial intervals are actually an official type of speed training, lol. They're called fartleks (I love that word, hehe). Basically picking random stretches to speed up and then recover in between. Often it's done with physical things on your route as reference, for example: run fast to the mailbox, then recover to the lamp post, then fast again to the next mailbox, then recover to the street sign, etc. runnersworld.com/fartlek
Well shoot, I did not want to do anything REAL. But seriously, I guess if it has an official name it can not be a horrible idea at least. 5 -
PastorVincent wrote: »Well shoot, I did not want to do anything REAL. But seriously, I guess if it has an official name it can not be a horrible idea at least.
There are plenty of named bad ideas. This isn't one of them. I disagree with your statement in general, but not in this specific case.
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autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »Well shoot, I did not want to do anything REAL. But seriously, I guess if it has an official name it can not be a horrible idea at least.
There are plenty of named bad ideas. This isn't one of them. I disagree with your statement in general, but not in this specific case.
I know, I was being humorous.... or attempting to be at least.1 -
@Elise4270 - If you haven't ordered your Orange Mud yet my friend Rachel, is an OM ambassador. She has at least one review of their products on her blog and probably links to others. site https://thwisp.wordpress.com/favorite-things/
She is also tiny so she may have hints that would be applicable. Best of all she has a discount code! Enter wispfriends at checkout. I have no idea how much the discount is but worth a try.1 -
New July goal....keep up with the posts, and retry to get 60 miles this month.
July 3....9 miles, average heart rate at 85%.
July 8...9 miles, average heart rate at 83%..max at 90%.
July 17...9 miles, average heart rate at 88%, max at 97%.
Total.... 27 miles
Very hot and humid yesterday, 85 degrees with 69% humidity. I chose to run at 3:30 p.m. due to already being in the area. Despite the heat, it really felt good to run. I had a hard time keeping my heart rate down and had to take some walking breaks. I gave up trying to keep my heart rate down after mile 5, and ran more at a tempo run. So probably 8-10 minutes walking all in all, 32 minutes in the zone.
Although my heart rate was high, my breathing didn't seem to increase that much and was very comfortable running at the pace. So not sure how much I trust the heart rate monitor. Should I still try to stay in the zone during the hot weather?
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