July 2017 Running Challenge

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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    BTW - if you were thinking of a FitBit, they are all on sale today on Amazon: http://amzn.to/2vBNHiu Looks like $20-$40 off.
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
    RespectTheKitty wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    @RespectTheKitty - I've heard the advice to stuff wet running shoes with newspaper many times. But in the digital age, many of us just don't have newspapers hanging around. I suppose I could dig through the recycle bin for the ads that go directly there from the mailbox; but I find parking my wet running shoes in front of a fan has been good enough. If it's reasonable humidity, they only need to stay there 5 minutes. For the humidity suckfest that has been July, or for running in the rain, they might have to stay there an hour or two. I think worst case, the shoes weren't dry when I went to bed so I left the fan on all night. The shoes were dry in the morning.


    You can put them in a box of rice like they say to do with cell phones! :lol:

    Like I have that much rice lying around.... :P

    I'm Korean so I always have enough rice, I buy it 25 pounds at a time :smile: Of course I would never waste that much rice to try and dry my shoes!

    I have wasted a gallon of white vinegar to get the stink out of workout clothes. A long soak in straight vinegar is the only thing that works for me.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    SOOOOOOO Do y'all remember all the fun I had with Strava in the June thread? Well finally got in touch with a "Matt" over there and they looked at the data coming over. For some reason, the data from the sync software is being edited in route. It has far fewer GPS points, 37 minutes worth of data points were lost (over a 2 hour run). The manual sync I do via a gpx file does not have this problem.

    *sigh* so I guess this means no automagic sync for me. I will have to do the manual sync each time. Bah.
  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Ran past a kid "look mom, she's running from the storm". Son, I am the storm.

    This is AWESOME!
  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    cameronheel wrote: »
    Took a rest day on Sunday as wife and I celebrated our 23rd anniversary.

    Happy Anniversary!!!

  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    garygse wrote: »
    Yeah, that's one complaint that I've read about those shoes is that the wide width color choice is non-existent (not sure if it's the same for other shoes in their line-up or not, as I only ever get the Vomeros).

    99 times out of 100, I end up leaving shoe stores with New Balance as they seem to be the only reasonable company on the market making wide width shoes.

    This!!!^^^^^
    And I have to wear a men's wide. Forget trying to find woman's running shoes that fit!
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    seanevan10 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    99 times out of 100, I end up leaving shoe stores with New Balance as they seem to be the only reasonable company on the market making wide width shoes.

    This!!!^^^^^
    And I have to wear a men's wide. Forget trying to find woman's running shoes that fit!

    So other than size numbers, is there any difference in how they make men vs women shoes? I mean with some clothing it makes sense as body proportions are different, but how different can feet be?

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    seanevan10 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »

    Ran past a kid "look mom, she's running from the storm". Son, I am the storm.

    This is AWESOME!

    Like me. During this particular segment of my run. :wink:

    Humility will set in on my next run when I expect it to feel this amazing again. :disappointed::smiley:

    @zdyb23456 I'm non-asian and I also buy rice in 25 pound bags. No way I'd waste it on shoes lol!
  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    edited July 2017
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    seanevan10 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    99 times out of 100, I end up leaving shoe stores with New Balance as they seem to be the only reasonable company on the market making wide width shoes.

    This!!!^^^^^
    And I have to wear a men's wide. Forget trying to find woman's running shoes that fit!

    So other than size numbers, is there any difference in how they make men vs women shoes? I mean with some clothing it makes sense as body proportions are different, but how different can feet be?

    Women's shoes tend to be quite a bit narrower in the heels and toes. I have never found a toe box on a women's shoe that didn't rub my poor toes raw. And I wear an 11 usually and it is very hard to find 1/2 size bigger in a wide without specialty ordering. When I look it up though, most of the docs on the interwebs says that womens running shoes are narrower in the heel and wider at the toes.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    7/1 8 miles
    7/2 Forced rest day
    7/3 7 easy miles in high humidity
    7/4 10 easy miles in high humidity
    7/5 7 miles in high humidity
    7/6 Thunderstorms forced rest day :frowning:
    7/7 6 miles zone 2/3
    7/8 17 miles in zone 2
    7/9 Travel day no run
    7/10 7 miles zone 2
    7/11 Too hot to play
    7/12 6 miles zone 2
    7/13 rest
    7/14 5.79 miles Zone 2
    7/15 rest day
    7/16 Travel day
    7/17 7 miles 30% Zone 3, 60% Zone 2.
    7/18 Too hot to run
    7/19 7 miles 50% Z3, 50% Z2
    7/20 6 miles 60% Z2, 30% Z3
    7/21 6 miles - 26% Z2, 43% Z3, 29% Z4
    7/22 11.5 miles - 80% Z2
    7/23 Rest
    7/24 10 miles, 86% Z2

    Summer Goal: Get my marathon pace below 9 minutes.
    Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28

    Next Races (more as I find them):

    07/28/17 - Liberty Mile - 1 mile race just to see what a short run really is :)
    08/2017 - Cranberry Cup 5k. (plan for a PR attempt)
    10/14/17 - Stop, Drop, and Run - Fireman style obstacle course - 5km

    05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.

    Nothing special, just a hot humid 10 miles...
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Main goal is to survive the Eugene Curnow Trail marathon and get more time on feet.
    Nominal mileage goal: Let's say 100? Maybe I'll be a PastorVincent and set my goal at the end of the month

    7/1- 11
    7/2- REST/Family day
    7/3- REST/Family Day
    7/4- 6ey stinger
    7/5- 5
    7/6- 6
    7/6- 5.1<--daily double
    7/7- REST
    7/8-17.7
    7/9-9
    7/10- REST
    7/11- 3.1
    7/12- 3.1
    7/13- REST
    7/14- REST
    7/15- 25.9
    7/16- REST
    7/17- REST
    7/18- REST
    7/19- REST
    7/20- REST
    7/21- REST
    7/22- "rest" 5k hile with 800+ elevation
    7/23- 4
    7/24- REST

    Total: 96.2

    Today's notes: REST day today, an actual scheduled one! I REALLY wanted to run today but, in order to get back on schedule for training, I took the planned Monday rest day.... However, I didn't want to be totally lazy, so when I took my little guy to the park, I loaded up the reservoir for my vest, plus both 20 oz bottles and wore that for the walk to the park, the whole time there, and then the walk to the library and the store.... pack only added about 7 pounds, but I wanted to get used to wearing it fully loaded, since I probably will wear it like that when I make my 100k attempt in October.

    Tomorrow is a scheduled 8 miles... I REALLY want to hit the trails, but with a 20 minute drive minimum each way, and a 0745 PT appointment 80 minutes away, I'll be running at home... looks like I'll be doing hill repeats,,, 12x a 1/4 mile little hill near home, plus mile run there and back... with vest and water reservoir.


    Hope ya'all are having a Runderful day!

    2017 Races Scheduled
    6/16- William A Irvin 5k
    6/17- Grandma's Marathon 4:24:06
    7/15- Eugene Curnow Trail Marathon 7:22:23
    8/19- Rampage at the Ridge 5k OCR
    9/23- Ely Marathon (full)
    10/21 Wild Duluth 100k
    11/23- TBD 5k Turkey
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Beautiful weather today, so I had to run in the woods again. :smile:

    Six miles total, wish I could have done more but my energy levels weren't the best. Still, it was a nice run for a stressful Monday.

    The road rash on my knee that I acquired on that fall a little over a week ago is still giving me problems. It's taking forever to heal. But I consulted Dr. Google and apparently road rash on the knee is supposed to take a long time to heal because it's on an area that moves a lot, thus frequently re-opening the wound. And that's exactly what's happening. Still, I wish this crazy thing would just go away. It's starting to scare the neighbors.

    July total - 88.5 / 100
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    RespectTheKitty wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    @RespectTheKitty - I've heard the advice to stuff wet running shoes with newspaper many times. But in the digital age, many of us just don't have newspapers hanging around. I suppose I could dig through the recycle bin for the ads that go directly there from the mailbox; but I find parking my wet running shoes in front of a fan has been good enough. If it's reasonable humidity, they only need to stay there 5 minutes. For the humidity suckfest that has been July, or for running in the rain, they might have to stay there an hour or two. I think worst case, the shoes weren't dry when I went to bed so I left the fan on all night. The shoes were dry in the morning.


    You can put them in a box of rice like they say to do with cell phones! :lol:

    Like I have that much rice lying around.... :P

    I'm Korean so I always have enough rice, I buy it 25 pounds at a time :smile: Of course I would never waste that much rice to try and dry my shoes!

    I have wasted a gallon of white vinegar to get the stink out of workout clothes. A long soak in straight vinegar is the only thing that works for me.

    SHOE UPDATE: They are nearly dry, no rice required. I stuffed them with old wrapping paper, LOL.

    I had to use my back-up pair for today's run, but the "good" pair should be ready to go by tomorrow.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    RespectTheKitty wrote: »
    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    RespectTheKitty wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    @RespectTheKitty - I've heard the advice to stuff wet running shoes with newspaper many times. But in the digital age, many of us just don't have newspapers hanging around. I suppose I could dig through the recycle bin for the ads that go directly there from the mailbox; but I find parking my wet running shoes in front of a fan has been good enough. If it's reasonable humidity, they only need to stay there 5 minutes. For the humidity suckfest that has been July, or for running in the rain, they might have to stay there an hour or two. I think worst case, the shoes weren't dry when I went to bed so I left the fan on all night. The shoes were dry in the morning.


    You can put them in a box of rice like they say to do with cell phones! :lol:

    Like I have that much rice lying around.... :P

    I'm Korean so I always have enough rice, I buy it 25 pounds at a time :smile: Of course I would never waste that much rice to try and dry my shoes!

    I have wasted a gallon of white vinegar to get the stink out of workout clothes. A long soak in straight vinegar is the only thing that works for me.

    SHOE UPDATE: They are nearly dry, no rice required. I stuffed them with old wrapping paper, LOL.

    I had to use my back-up pair for today's run, but the "good" pair should be ready to go by tomorrow.

    It rained today while I ran. The shoes I ran in are parked in front of a fan. I expect they'll be dry by morning, but I'll move on to the next pair in rotation for tomorrow anyway.
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    July Running Totals (miles)
    7/1 – 14.00 paced run
    7/2 – 14.03 easy
    7/3 – 6.21 easy + 4 strides
    7/4 – 8.07 warm up + 4 mile race
    7/5 – 7.40 group run
    7/6 – 12.06 warm up + MP intervals
    7/7 – rest day
    7/8 – 15.01 paced 10 + ad hoc 5
    7/9 – 11.83 easy 90 minutes
    7/10 – 6.95 easy + 4 strides
    7/11 – 11.37 warm up, speed work, cool down
    7/12 – 6.04 group run
    7/13 – 11.62 warm up, speed work, cool down
    7/14 – rest day
    7/15 – 20.25 warm up, pace half marathon, easy 5 miles post-race
    7/16 – 13.12 easy 100 minutes
    7/17 – 7.32 easy
    7/18 – 10.62 warm up, speed work, cool down
    7/19 – rest day
    7/20 – 14.01 MP intervals
    7/21 – rest day
    7/22 – 17.02 paced run
    7/23 – 12.47 easy with hills
    7/24 – 7.84 easy + 4 strides

    July total to date – 227.24

    Nominal Challenge Goal – 260 miles
    Real Goals: Stay healthy. Train toward Rochester Marathon. Pace Shoreline Half as close as possible to a 1:40 finish with even splits. Run Karknocker 5K in under 20 minutes.

    Today's notes – Today's assignment was a typical Monday in the marathon plan, easy plus 4 strides. I had penciled in 8 miles, but with yesterday's run coming in long I would be okay with today coming in a little short. Garmin says it was 72º F (22º C) with 73% relative humidity, but it was a bit of a weather story when I ran. I expected same old, same old reasonable temperature and humidity suckfest. What happened was a little different.

    I waited till 6:30 PM to start, in the hopes of more shade or some overcast skies. I got the overcast skies. And a few drops of rain. Then a shower that started in earnest about 1.25 miles in. Oh, well. I know how to run in the rain. For the next mile or so, it was like I was running on the borderline of a weak cold front. I'd run through a patch of warm, humid air; then I'd run through a patch of cool shower. After a while, the patches of warm humid air went away and I was just running in a cool rain.

    I thought about this for a while, and decided that rain when it's this warm is better running weather than the humidity I've run in for most of July. Then it got wetter, and I began to worry about my socks. Normally, I wear Darn Tough socks and I don't worry about puddles. For whatever random reason, today was the day I decided to test the free socks I got last April from a Strava challenge, where I had to show up at the Strava store in Boston to collect the socks:

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    They're pretty. I don't trust pretty. I want functional, and in my experience functional is frequently a casualty of creating something pretty. My feet got wet. I felt the squish of water on my toes. The socks are thinner than the Darn Tough socks. But, apparently they were good enough. I didn't get any blisters.

    After about 4.6 miles, the showers let up, then became intermittent. I had periods of running in cool showers, then periods of running in warmer humidity. Yes, the showers are definitely better running weather.

    Got back to my own street, ran my 4 long strides starting just after Garmin clicked over 7 miles. I'm supposed to work on some aspect of form while running strides. Today I worked on staying loose. I visualized holding a potato chip, just like folks here recommended. Didn't work to well. My imaginary potato chips got soggy. So on the 3rd and 4th strides, I just worked on not clenching my fists and keeping my arms loose.

    I finished up in a light shower. I'm already wet, so I may as well do my stretching on my driveway. The shorts won't get any wetter if I sit on the wet asphalt for seated stretches.

    Check the stats. Average pace, 7:46 (7:50 for the first 7 miles). Average HR, 124 (Zone 1). Max HR, 140 (top of Zone 2). Time in zones, 24% Zone 2 and 69% Zone 1. I could feel that I didn't have to work as hard today as the past few days running at a similar pace.

    I still don't like having to mow the lawn every 3 to 5 days, but I'm beginning to see some benefits to having a lot of rain in July.

    2017 races:
    January 1, 2017 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY) Finished in 50:45
    January 7, 2017 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) Finished in 1:32:40
    January 14, 2017 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds Park 5 mile) (Spencerport, NY) Finished in 33:42
    January 28, 2017 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victor, NY) short course, finished 4.88 miles in 32:50
    February 4, 2017 USATF Cross Country National Championship Masters 8K (Bend, OR) Finished in 35:39, team won the 60+ Men's cross country championship
    February 11, 2017 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) sat out due to training schedule
    February 25, 2017 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) short course, finished 4.34 miles in 27:51
    March 11, 2017 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 33:25
    March 18, 2017 USATF Masters 8K Championship (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 30:59, PR for 8K
    April 17, 2017 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:49:42
    April 30, 2017 USATF Masters 10K Championship (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 39:54, PR for 10K
    May 21, 2017 Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 40:04
    May 27, 2017 Canandaigua Classic Half Marathon (Canandaigua, NY) finished in 1:33:06
    June 9, 2017 Charlie McMullen Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 5:44.90, PR for mile
    June 18, 2017 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) finished in 19:32
    July 4, 2017 Firecracker Four Mile (Fairport, NY) finished in 25:42
    July 15, 2017 Shoreline Half Marathon [1:40 pacer] (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:39:05
    July 28, 2017 Karknocker 5K (East Rochester, NY)
    August 9, 2017 Pound the Ground 10K (Mendon, NY)
    August 12, 2017 Bergen Road Race 5K (Bergen, NY)
    September 3, 2017 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY)
    September 17, 2017 MVP Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
    November 23, 2017 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @RespectTheKitty
    I just leave my shoes outside overnight if I need them to dry. Guess that's one thing good about the heat here.
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @PastorVincent and @seanevan10 - if you are looking for shoes with a wider toe box you might check out Altra and Topo. Both are known for having a more natural fit that allows your toes to splay out naturally. I have had some issues with the sizing of Altras to get the right size. Topos are a spinoff from Vibram and I love them. Actually my favorite is Skora (also wide toe box) but they have had some stock issues and don't expect to have more until this fall. I like the fit of all 3 of these better than my wide width New Balance.
  • JimCrackinDandy
    JimCrackinDandy Posts: 146 Member
    edited July 2017
    girlinahat wrote: »
    I considered pulling out because of the calf, and now because of the cough, but I know me, and if I pull out now, I’ll ALWAYS pull out when I’m feeling a bit rough.

    I must therefore be a runner. Because I am still going ahead,


    You are an inspiration! I have had bronchitis bunches of times and there's nothing worse, in my book for a runner, than the Dreaded Bronchitis!!!!
    Great plan you have- Go for the walk and have fun. I will be praying for a quick recovery from this chest infection/ cough.



  • JimCrackinDandy
    JimCrackinDandy Posts: 146 Member
    midwesterner85 wrote: »

    Maybe the trucker just had some extra biscuits for whatever reason and decided to share them with the first dog he saw?

    I did that recently when I changed my diet back to zero carb again... I had a bunch of nuts and peanut butter left over, so I gave a bag or bottle to homeless people as I saw them. I just gave out the last jar of peanut butter on Sat. (along with a couple of plastic spoons) to a homeless person and am down to only 1 bag of pecans for the next. When my cats die, I will probably give the leftover food to homeless kitties.

    That's lovely. Great ideas there. Our world would be a different place if we all gave (even our leftovers) to those in need.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    July Goal: 85 mile (yeah, a REAL goal!)

    7/1 3.75
    7/2 3.52
    7/3 rest
    7/4 3.26
    7/5 5.18
    7/6 snorkel 3.5 hours
    7/7 3.40
    7/8 6.00
    7/9 anniversary wine and dine
    7/10 4.23
    7/11 3.25
    7/12 rest
    7/13 4.88
    7/14 3.25
    7/15 painted bridge
    7/16 6.50
    7/17 4.25
    7/18 snorkel 3 hours
    7/19 3.53
    7/20 4.36
    7/21 rest
    7/22 3.61
    7/23 MIKADO! (got a last minute invite-it was fabulous!)
    7/24 5.10

    Total 68.07

    Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
    exercise.png
    upcoming races:
    Fun in the Sun Virtual 10k 6/28/17
    Race to Cure Sarcoma Month of July
    Volcano Rainforest Runs 10k 8/19
    BlockThe Sun Run 5k Oct 14 (https://walk.aimatmelanoma.org/Hilo2017) (physical and virtual options available)
  • mustb60
    mustb60 Posts: 1,090 Member
    Going for a short trip so would be MIA for three days. Will try to run there also if rain allowed. It's a hill station so lots of walking and hiking is expected. Have a great week everyone.

    July Running Challenge
    Goal: 100 km
    Ran: 80/100

    25/7/17 Run 7 km (80)
    24/7/17 Run 10.2 km
    23/7/17 Unplanned rest day
    22/7/17 Rest day
    21/7/17 Run 3 km (63)
    20/7/17 Run 3 km (60)
    19/7/17 Run 5 km (57)
    17/7/17 Run 8 km (52)
    15/7/17 Run 7 km (44)
    14/7/17 Rest Day Walk 7 km
    13/7/17 Run 8 km walk 5 km (37)
    12/7/17 Run 7 km walk 5 km
    11/7/17 Run 8 km Walk 6 km (21)
    10/7/17 Walk 5 km
    9/7/17 Run 7 km (14)
    8/7/17 walk 2km
    7/7/17 Walk 4 km
    6/7/17 (Sick)Rest day
    5/7/17 Run 7 km + Yoga
    4/7/17 SL+ Walk 15 km
    3/7/17 Walk 7 km
    1/7/17 walk 8 km

    SL : Strong lift
  • cburke8909
    cburke8909 Posts: 990 Member
    3.8 on elliptical all zone 2.

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    Trying for 7 easy miles tomorrow.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @PastorVincent and @seanevan10 - if you are looking for shoes with a wider toe box you might check out Altra and Topo. Both are known for having a more natural fit that allows your toes to splay out naturally. I have had some issues with the sizing of Altras to get the right size. Topos are a spinoff from Vibram and I love them. Actually my favorite is Skora (also wide toe box) but they have had some stock issues and don't expect to have more until this fall. I like the fit of all 3 of these better than my wide width New Balance.

    Not seen those brands in stores. I will have to keep an eye out for them. I have about 400 miles on my current shoes so probably should be thinking about new ones at some point. I really dislike shoe shopping though, so normally just re-order the last pair I got until they stop making them. The process starts a new.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    My official time was almost 45 mins off my best time, ugh, I did not expect to come close to a PR but it was much worse than I expected. I am sure though that a good portion of it was the time spent waiting for the bathroom as well as walking some of the hills. There is one thing that confuses me though on the official time and this is the first time I have had it happen. I started my app well before the actual race start and stopped it well after the end and it still had me time a full 11 mins faster than the official time and my watch which was even faster because it pauses if I stop for longer than 30secs (app doesn't pause). Maybe someone can explain it? My husband did say that when he was watching me on the race app they were reporting problems with the times so maybe it was an issue on their end. It really doesn’t impact me in any way other than maybe my pride.

    Congrats on finishing despite conditions!

    If your app does not auto-pause (are you sure? Strava, RunKeeper, and many others do. I turn this feature off) then I would assume what your app recorded was correct. I mean you likely have been using it a while now and should have a good idea if it is accurate right? If it is accurate, it is more sensible to trust the known tool than the unknown tool. IMO.

    Also, do not forget there are TWO different times when you run at the non-competitive level. There is CHIP time and GUN time.

    Gun time - how long it took you to finish the race based on the official start of the race. So if the race started at 7 am, and you finished at noon, your time is 5 hours.

    Chip Time - how long it took you to make it from start to finish. So if the official start time was 7 am but you did not cross the start line until 7:45 am and finished at noon, then your chip time is 4 hours and 15 minutes.

    Your watch and app measure CHIP TIME not GUN TIME.
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