Diet Coke, friend or foe?
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It's just processed sugar water. Won't kill you, but if other things are off, it will kill you
As I said before.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/artificial-sweeteners-sugar-free-but-at-what-cost-201207165030
A great article on the subject
Did you read the thread I linked you to on the first page? There are numerous articles (peer reviewed) listed in there that debunk this.7 -
You're right. Diet Coke contains Aspartame. Which is probably worse than sugar.
When I was typing my first post I had regular Coke on the brain
Except it's been studied so much and nothing has been proven that it's worse. https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary
The amount of aspartame needed to be "toxic" is 1600 cans PER DAY. Good luck drinking that many lol. Thats 1 can every 54 seconds.13 -
stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
I dont know what YOLO stands for.
But most people do not crave sweeter things when they drink diet soda nor do they become addicted to it.
So how is it responsible, directly or indirectly??
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stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've been drinking diet coke for about 25 years, and not just "once in a while" so I just did a quick calculation on how many cans I have drunk over that time. I drink anything between 7 and 14 cans a week so I've probably consumed between 63,875 and 127,750 cans of diet coke or at least 21 thousand litres (if my maths is accurate
). My favourite snack is crisps, I never crave sweeter things and I'm not addicted to artificial sweetener... 9 -
stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
I'm in excellent health though and I drink diet soda every day. I also lost 50lbs and normalized a prediabetic glucose number while drinking diet soda every day. And I've never craved sweet stuff, I gravitate towards salty things and diet soda hasn't affected this at all.7 -
stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
I dont know what YOLO stands for.
But most people do not crave sweeter things when they drink diet soda nor do they become addicted to it.
So how is it responsible, directly or indirectly??
YOLO - You only live once
I have never been obese, but when I was overweight and didn't exercise I would drink regular soda as a snack often. I figured it was in a controlled serving size can and "only" 140 calories. But it would usually make me snacky and I'd end up eating something with it anyway.
Now that I am a healthy weight and more active, I'll often have a diet soda when I'm itching to eat something but not really hungry. It hits the spot and does not increase my appetite.
I believe the research that suggests that diet soda causes some people to eat more or to stay overweight comes from two factors that have nothing to do with artificial sweeteners.
1. Overweight unhealthy people who aren't ready to admit they eat too much start with the path of least resistance - switch from sugary drinks to diet. But they don't control anything else so they stay overweight.
2. Drinking diet makes some people feel virtuous so they figure they can fit in a little more food and end up eating back all the calories they saved.
The vast majority of research accumulated over the past 50-75 years says that the longest used artificial sweeteners are perfectly safe. Cherry picking the minority of studies that merely show that if you marinate rats in ungodly volumes of the stuff makes them fat or sick is either wilfull fear-mongering or a victim-minded need for a boogeyman.6 -
coke zero is my friend
pepsi is my enemy - nasty, however
just tasted the new pepsi max with ginger. can barely taste any ginger but must say i was able to drink it2 -
I actually got a bit annoyed with my chiropracter recently over this topic. The concern is aspartame, but as long as you're drinking it in moderation it won't harm you. In a week I drink 3-4 cans of diet A&W, and only if I'm having a spicy dinner. His response was the usual anti-aspartame spiel I've heard over the years, and I was somewhat disappointed to learn he hasn't been keeping up with studies on it.
Short answer: unless you have an intolerace to sweeteners, a serving a day is going to cause less harm than a typical serving of orange juice.3 -
I think it's all pretty hilarious because the one thing I never, EVER did when I was 100 lbs heavier was drink diet soda or anything with aspartame, sucralose etc. in it. It tasted vile and I was convinced that diet soda was a tumor in a can.
One thing I did frequently during my weight loss and continue to do as I'm maintaining said loss: drink diet soda. Usually 2 a day or thereabouts. Many successful people on MFP drink much more than that. Diet soda was very useful for my weight loss because I understand about CALORIES.11 -
People seek out support for a position that they already hold. On this site throw out any scientific data that indicates diet soda is bad for you and go with anecdotal evidence that "hey, I lost X amount of weight drinking it so it must be fine."13
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Bobbie8786 wrote: »People seek out support for a position that they already hold. On this site throw out any scientific data that indicates diet soda is bad for you and go with anecdotal evidence that "hey, I lost X amount of weight drinking it so it must be fine."
If anyone would ever post scientific data that says it's bad for you then I'll consider it when formulating an opinion on it. Just so's you know, a lot of the data suggesting that it's bad is anecdotal.10 -
I have some every day. Cherry coke zero and Chik fil a's diet lemonade are my weaknesses.0
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Bobbie8786 wrote: »People seek out support for a position that they already hold. On this site throw out any scientific data that indicates diet soda is bad for you and go with anecdotal evidence that "hey, I lost X amount of weight drinking it so it must be fine."
@Bobbie8786
Do you have any scientific evidence that isn't correlation based or a ludicrous experiment on mutant rodents?
Please share.11 -
Bobbie8786 wrote: »People seek out support for a position that they already hold. On this site throw out any scientific data that indicates diet soda is bad for you and go with anecdotal evidence that "hey, I lost X amount of weight drinking it so it must be fine."
There is so much more scientific evidence that diet soda is fine than that suggests it's not, it's not even funny. I'm honestly confused by your post.9 -
Bobbie8786 wrote: »People seek out support for a position that they already hold. On this site throw out any scientific data that indicates diet soda is bad for you and go with anecdotal evidence that "hey, I lost X amount of weight drinking it so it must be fine."
Of course I'm going to go by what my own, real life experience has been and yes, I did lose a lot of weight while drinking diet soda, and yes I'm in excellent health and the positive changes in my health happened while drinking diet soda. This shows me that a. diet soda does not deter weight loss for me and b. drinking diet soda doesn't do anything negative to my health. It would be silly for me to think otherwise, based on what I've actually experienced.
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stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
It's very clear that you have no idea what you're even talking about.8 -
In spite of the fear mongers, it is phenomenally better than any sugar-laden drink. Diet Pepsi was the key for me during a keto phase as I would go to movies and just fill up on sugar-free drinks. It may not have been the perfect thing to do, but it was much better than my usual drinks. All this fear about chemicals is over-kill. People are living longer now than in the entire course of human history.4
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »extra_medium wrote: »J9LynnHelton wrote: »Hi, I am determined to lose all this weight this time. My husband is convinced, from all the internet stuff he reads, that Diet Coke is the most evil of things you can ingest. According to him it will cause all kinds of trouble, from making me gain weight, destroying my pancreas, to bloating my stomach. I love the taste, and feel it is a great sweet treat with no calories.
What do you all think?
Tell your husband to consider how many millions of gallons of diet coke that have been consumed over the decades it has been available...If it actually caused any of these issues, it would be well documented and people would not buy it. There would be nothing to debate. Also ask how something with zero calories would make you gain weight.
Yah. You may think nothing is wrong when a 3rd of all american adults are obese.
LMAO oh yeah nothing is wrong
Because a 3rd of americans is obese because of a 0 calorie drink. Yeah...
And your link is a blog post.
Other factors too. But it's a part of the problem.
Diet Coke isn't directly responsible inmo but it is indirectly certainly responsible.
Haha so yah millions of people are fine because millions of people drink it, right? I don't think so.
Thing is. If you're healthy and you drink diet Coke once in a while, it's fine. If youre not healthy, you crave sweeter things and you become addicted to the artificial sweetner.
I have no problem with people drinking diet Cole because we'll... YOLO but this is what happens, ... Yes with a 0 calorie sweetener
I dont know what YOLO stands for.
But most people do not crave sweeter things when they drink diet soda nor do they become addicted to it.
So how is it responsible, directly or indirectly??
I believe the research that suggests that diet soda causes some people to eat more or to stay overweight comes from two factors that have nothing to do with artificial sweeteners.
1. Overweight unhealthy people who aren't ready to admit they eat too much start with the path of least resistance - switch from sugary drinks to diet. But they don't control anything else so they stay overweight.
2. Drinking diet makes some people feel virtuous so they figure they can fit in a little more food and end up eating back all the calories they saved.
While that may be true (it has not been true in my case, but maybe in general it is), if you are counting and tracking your calorie intake, as most of us are doing on this site, then that risk is mitigated. There are many things that causes people to eat more such as stress, sorrow, and boredom.
I feel that a sweet, bubbly, cold glass of no calorie goodness would be a great way to start my day (the jolt of caffeine is an additional bonus). I don't like coffee, wouldn't know how our what to order order at Starbucks, but I sure love that fizzy sound when I crack open that Diet Coke bottle. Especially when it has those tiny ice particles that form on the surface. Yummmmm!3 -
For what it's worth!
(does anyone remember the experiment from science class where you stick the penny in the coke and let it sit for a few days and the penny eventually erodes??)
https://search.nih.gov/search?utf8=✓&affiliate=nih&query=effects+of+diet+sodas&commit=Search
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/well/diet-sodas-tied-to-dementia-and-stroke.html
https://www.quora.com/Is-Diet-Coke-or-other-diet-sodas-good-or-bad-for-dieting-and-weight-loss-Does-diet-soda-cause-people-to-gain-weight-If-so-why10 -
A personal foe for me. Once I start drinking them, I can't stop and I forget water. So like when I quit smoking, I had to quit the diet Coke. One of those things I can not moderate. I'm fine when I don't start the habit.6
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PiscesSoul8 wrote: »For what it's worth! (does anyone remember the experiment from science class where you stick the penny in the coke and let it sit for a few days and the penny eventually erodes??)
https://search.nih.gov/search?utf8=✓&affiliate=nih&query=effects+of+diet+sodas&commit=Search
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/well/diet-sodas-tied-to-dementia-and-stroke.html
https://www.quora.com/Is-Diet-Coke-or-other-diet-sodas-good-or-bad-for-dieting-and-weight-loss-Does-diet-soda-cause-people-to-gain-weight-If-so-why
No I don't remember a science class experiment where a penny literally erodes within a few days. I do remember one where the rust and dirt on it gets cleaned off by the soda though.
And also two more experiments, one with vinegar and another with lemon juice where the exact same thing happens... say you wouldn't by any chance be avoiding citrus fruits or foods containing vinegar would you?10 -
Team Diet Mountain Dew!
I wish I could find the Caffeine Free Diet Mountain Dew for days I don't want/need caffeine.3 -
One of the glories of a healthy marriage is to agree to disagree. You will lose all the weight you want to by paying attention to everything else you are eating.
If it were me, I'd get myself a lovely glass, a funky straw, add ice and my diet PEPSI and drink it VERY SLOWLY in front of him. Daily.
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Cola has phosphoric acid, and it will leach the calcium from your bones. If you must drink diet soda instead of the best hydration drink there is, water, at least switch to different soda types. Ginger ale is even medicinal.19
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Witchdoctor58 wrote: »Cola has phosphoric acid, and it will leach the calcium from your bones. If you must drink diet soda instead of the best hydration drink there is, water, at least switch to different soda types. Ginger ale is even medicinal.
Relevant username is relevant.21 -
Well I like to drink maybe 1 a day just when I want a little something. I like the sparkling Ice drinks so far so good- for me at least2
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I drink mostly water, but usually have one or two diet A&W root beers, cream soda, or a diet Fresca...not a cola guy. I think I'll be ok...1
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