Paleo vs Plant based vs low calorie?

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  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
    diannethegeek wrote: »
    JAT74 wrote: »
    On the first point, most of what I eat is natural food made from scratch, very few packaged foods (maybe one item, once a week). I also weigh the scoop size it recommends on the protein powder box so I know what is an accurate portion. Any other ingredients I add (like skimmed milk, half a small banana etc) get weighed/measured.

    2nd point - great to hear there are people out there who can eat loads or eat high cal food and still look great. Not convinced there isn't something else going on there ie. a hidden eating disorder or skipped meals when not in company etc. Nobody can be sure.

    3rd point, as I said before, there are bound to be people with a fast metabolism for whatever reason and carrying very little fat/a high % of muscle who can eat a lot and maintain.

    I had an under desk cycle, was pretty poor! Once it starts to cool down again in September I'll start upping my walking again and by that point I should be able to lift heavier weights so I'm hoping that will speed things up.

    Wow. I eat 2200 calories to maintain and 1700-1800 when I want to lose. Did you just accuse everyone who can eat more than 1000 calories of having a hidden eating disorder or flatout lying to you right now?
    Keep your cool. You're an MFP veteran, and this kind of attitude is pretty common.

    TBH, I think this is one of those gender differences in dieting- women are more likely to have been brought up to see eating like a bird in public as necessary and to worry about being thought of as 'greedy'.

    The OP has been here since 2013 so not exactly a newbie.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    edited August 2017
    MommaGem2017 wrote: »
    cqbkaju wrote: »
    Someone claiming to eat less than 1200 calories per day?
    Who is also getting upset and tetchy because people are trying to help her but not telling her what she wants to hear?

    Thread closing in 3...2...1...?

    Threads with argumentative, non-receptive OPs are my favorite entertainment threads. Where'd she go??

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    Rage quit?
  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
    HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
    All in all, I think your perception of 'very active' is off. Could this be contributing to your slower-than-desired progress?

    Consider also, that you're not spending a whole week, as in 24/7, in company with several very active women who aren't dieting, to see what very active women at healthy weights eat over the course of an average week.

    This is what I was going to say. We must have differing definitions of "active". Particularly saying that she knows very active women who show no real muscle, but are thin. They aren't interested in fitness and health (and certainly not strength); they're interested in being skinny.
  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    I'm thinking maybe you are underestimating what "very active" is...

    The women I know who eat like birdies aren't really trying to be fit...they're trying to be skinny.

    Didn't mean to piggyback there... Just saw that you posted pretty much the same thing I did.
  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
    JAT74 wrote: »
    2nd point - great to hear there are people out there who can eat loads or eat high cal food and still look great. Not convinced there isn't something else going on there ie. a hidden eating disorder or skipped meals when not in company etc. Nobody can be sure.

    This is so incredibly relative to the individual, however. My maintenance is north of 3000kcal, but I'm a big guy. I like to stay around 215-225, and I'm active. Even if I'm sitting around gathering dust, my daily energy needs and eating might seem like "eating loads", when it's really just me eating what I'm supposed to to maintain.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    OP you also mentioned about metabolism. it all has to do with your height,weight,age,activity level.lean mass % and so on.someone with say your same stats who maybe more active will burn more calories so they can eat more.if someone is younger than you but is your height and weight and active like you may lose weight faster. everyone is different and everyones BMR(what your body burns to function without exercise IE-in a coma) is different also.

    I was thin all my life until I stopped being as active and started eating more calories and stopped one of my meds that boosted my metabolism a bit.after that the weight started piling on. The point is never compare yourself to others including with weight loss. and if you have eaten any period of times very low calories then its possible you have adaptive thermogenesis .and if you try to eat more of course you will gain but its usually only for a short time. you may need to take a diet break if you have been eating low calories for more than 6 months without a break,. it can help with your hormones too. most recommend having a diet break 2 weeks out of every few months.

    you can try taking a break and then get back to it or have tests run. its your call. But anytime you up; calories,you will gain but it doesnt mean fat gain.you can also try being a bit more active when you can. there are several things you can do and try if you cant afford tests being done.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    giefspamnao wrote: »
    This pretty much sums up this whole debate
    https://youtu.be/5Ua-WVg1SsA

    This is great. <3
  • kokonani
    kokonani Posts: 507 Member
    My grandma died at the age of 95 with no significant illnesses. She ate everything from meat to processed , salty, junk, everything! She was always a thin lady, mostly because she was very active even at her age she walked everywhere. And also she ate very small portions . Which all comes back down to CICO. Doesn't matter what the heck you eat! All plant based diet lacks in certain foods and nutrients, keto lacks, paleo lacks, Why can't we just eat what we want but just control how much we eat?
  • missh1967
    missh1967 Posts: 661 Member
    edited August 2017
    giefspamnao wrote: »
    This pretty much sums up this whole debate
    https://youtu.be/5Ua-WVg1SsA


    So awesome.
  • missh1967
    missh1967 Posts: 661 Member
    snickerscharlie wrote: »
    kokonani wrote: »
    My grandma died at the age of 95 with no significant illnesses. She ate everything from meat to processed , salty, junk, everything! She was always a thin lady, mostly because she was very active even at her age she walked everywhere. And also she ate very small portions . Which all comes back down to CICO. Doesn't matter what the heck you eat! All plant based diet lacks in certain foods and nutrients, keto lacks, paleo lacks, Why can't we just eat what we want but just control how much we eat?

    Because the multi-billion dollar diet industry spends gobs of cash to convince people otherwise?

    Let's be honest. CICO is pretty damn boring. Where's the dazzle, the pizazz, the ability to mesmerize your family, friends and co-workers with how cool you are to be in at the ground level of the latest, greatest diet craze/drug/supplement?

    Most people want instant answers, instant results, instant successes. They want the secret handshakes and decoder rings making them feel all insider-y, special and superior.

    Kinda hard for good ol' tried-and-true scientific CICO to compete with that. :)

    LOL I hope my video posts.

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