August 2017 Running Challenge

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  • RunRachelleRun
    RunRachelleRun Posts: 1,854 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    RunRachelleRun wrote: »
    Question for the ladies on the measurement chart . . . when you measure waist, do you measure at the naval or at the smallest point? I saw on that other spreadsheet @Elise4270 linked to, it requested the minimum measurement. Mine are quite different . . . hmmm . . . I'd love to start using the smaller number.

    I was told the smallest part of your waist is your waist..... But, for me that ends up being bra line!!! I tend to grab an inch or so above naval. I think being consistent is the key so you know where you are comparing.

    Thanks! I'm switching to that measurement then.
  • shrcpr
    shrcpr Posts: 885 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    WandaVaughn wrote: »
    It feels strange to call 3 miles a "short" run!


    Yeah, it is funny now when I say "just going for a short easy run" and I mean 6-8 miles. :) It is a strange world we distance runners have moved into...

    Tell me about it. I double checked my running schedule this morning and was like, "oh, only 8 miles today!" And then was like, wait, what? smh

    So not there yet. Maybe some day...
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    WandaVaughn wrote: »
    It feels strange to call 3 miles a "short" run!


    Yeah, it is funny now when I say "just going for a short easy run" and I mean 6-8 miles. :) It is a strange world we distance runners have moved into...

    Tell me about it. I double checked my running schedule this morning and was like, "oh, only 8 miles today!" And then was like, wait, what? smh

    I'm with you guys. This morning I was happy when I remembered that I have another 4 or so tonight... after running 3x 1 mile hill repeats on trail.... running does funny things to a person.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,184 Member
    edited August 2017
    RunRachelleRun wrote: »
    Question for the ladies on the measurement chart . . . when you measure waist, do you measure at the naval or at the smallest point? I saw on that other spreadsheet @Elise4270 linked to, it requested the minimum measurement. Mine are quite different . . . hmmm . . . I'd love to start using the smaller number.

    I always use the smallest part of the waist unless it is specified as "at the navel". I've never had my body fat measured but I have used some online calculators and some will say at the natural waist and some at the navel. I don't think they are that accurate though so I didn't enter my body fat in the chart. According to the calculators it is somewhere between 18%-24%. I'm pretty sure it isn't 18% and that seems like a pretty wide range to me.
  • carolineb81
    carolineb81 Posts: 459 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    @carolineb81 great first week of august!

    thank you!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited August 2017
    Wow! Love the table! Y'all rock!

    My boss has been having me shadow her today, hmm I might be being babysat.. nah... Lol! Probably! she has twice caught me being blunt with "co-workers". Hey! I got no time to spin it so your feelings don't get hurt. She's good at that, where you don't REALLY know what she's getting at. "IF you have time, IF you want too... I had to council this one employee about being blunt... Twice"

    Haha! Gotta love personalities! Ok ok ok... I'll settle down. I always feel insanely slow when she talking to me.. always trying to understand and follow. I do have one employee whipped in to "yes, ma'am, what do you need?" My method works.

    Jeez it's hot and humid... Maybe today's a good day to start going to the airp conditioned gym.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    edited August 2017
    lporter229 wrote: »
    @katieJane83 - To answer your question (IMO), I don't think the bottom line is that you are getting zero benefit from training in zone X, it's more that you are not getting the best bang for your buck by being there. Any aerobic conditioning that you are getting is being negated by the unnecessary fatigue you are subjecting your body to by training faster than you need to. In other words, you would be getting the same aerobic benefits by going slower, so why waste the energy. When training for a marathon in particular, the cumulative effect of all of those miles on you body can wear you down, which is why you need to taper before the race. Adding unnecessary fatigue factors is going to decrease your performance over the long haul.

    On the other hand, if you are doing your speed workouts (any of your 20% of the 80/20 rule) in zone X, then you are probably not pushing yourself hard enough to get the specific benefits of those workouts. That's why 80% below zone X and 20% above zone X.

    The kind of funny thing about this is(and you kind of hit upon it in your table), that marathon pace for most people often falls in zone X. So you probably have noticed that very little of your marathon training is done at marathon pace. Some people feel that they need to have the psychological benefit of knowing that they can sustain their marathon pace over the course of a long run and will run their long runs faster. I guess maybe they feel that the psychological benefit they get outweighs the negative impact of the additional fatigue.

    This all makes a lot of sense, and I think is kind of what I was figuring, without really being able to fully explain it, lol. And it is true, there is very little of my overall training that is actually supposed to be done at marathon pace, which does encompass my Zone X range. I think for me, personally, just having the volume of weekly miles is what's going to help me psychologically. Not to mention, I've never run a marathon, so I can't really predict exactly what my marathon pace should be. I don't particularly buy the race pace calculators that are claiming I can do it sub-4 based on my half marathon and 5k times, lol. I think if I had prior experience with these distances I would trust it more, since it's been fairly accurate for other race distances, but this is a whole other ballgame.
  • Azercord
    Azercord Posts: 573 Member
    I was in the mountains for a week with no internet or cell service (it was bliss) but I'm 27 pages behind....so I'm just skipping ahead. Since some of my August miles slipped into July my goal is 130.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    @_nikkiwolf_ yeah, that is an excellent point. I think sometimes it's too easy to get too wrapped up in all the nitty-gritty, little details. I am definitely not a professional runner either, that's for sure!
  • _nikkiwolf_
    _nikkiwolf_ Posts: 1,380 Member
    My run yesterday was "12x 400m" intervals. The first time I did such short intervals, and so many of them - and I found it really hard to keep track! I set my watch to beep every 200m, so I could do 400m fast, 200m recovery. Which ment that it was beeping nearly every minute, somewhat annoying. And I kept loosing count and had to re-calculate the number of intervals left to do from the total distance I had run...
    Lol, sometimes I think I'm never happy. Two weeks ago the training plan called for "3x1600m", and those were too long for my taste. Why can't it be "6x800m" every week? :smiley:

    And I have to admit I completely forgot to do the kr30dc yesterday, so I had to do day 4 this morning and day 5 this evening. Those same stretches every day are starting to get a little boring. I'm glad that on day 7 it will change to completely different exercises.
    At least today there was a little bonus workout that came by mail and isn't written on the challenge website:
    "Testing for imbalances"
    - Single Leg Bridge 10 x 10 second holds on each leg
    - Side Plank 3 x 30 seconds hold on each side
    The idea is to do both and pay attention if the exercise feels harder on one side feels than the other to find out if you have any left/right imbalances.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @_nikkiwolf_ love the formatting! Thanks!!!
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    8/01/2017 - 0 miles
    8/02/2017 - 9 miles Z3/Z4
    8/03/2017 - 7 miles Z2
    8/04/2017 - 5 Easy miles
    8/05/2017 - Cranberry Cup 5k - 23:18
    8/05/2017 - Howl at the Moon 5k - 25:11
    8/06/2017 - Rest
    8/07/2017 - 7.75 miles
    8/08/2017 - 6.5 miles Z2

    Summer Goal: Get my marathon pace below 9 minutes.
    Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28

    Next Races (more as I find them):

    08/12/2017 - Friends of the Riverfront Trail Run - 15k
    10/14/2017 - Stop, Drop, and Run - Fireman style obstacle course - 5km

    05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.

    Just easy hot humid want to die run today. Pretty much need to coast out the next few days since have the 15k race on Saturday. Not really a tapper, but do want to reduce work outs for a few days.
  • seanevan10
    seanevan10 Posts: 385 Member
    RE: roo belt..
    I have one of these
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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    MobyCarp wrote: »
    By 6, it was raining and I was suddenly dead tired. I don't mind running in a shower, even if the shower turns to rain; but I find it hard to *start* running in a steady rain. So I ended up with an extra rest day, went to bed earlier than I have been getting there, soaked up almost 10 hours of sleep, and felt great this morning.

    Yeah. It is funny that way. If I am out running and it starts raining, I keep going. But If I am in a nice dry cozy house and it is already raining, I have no real desire to go run in it.
  • BruinsGal_91
    BruinsGal_91 Posts: 1,400 Member
    "MobyCarp wrote: »
    So I set off on the start of an exploration route. One of the good things about this route is that it has about 2 miles of rolling uphill that's the best practice for Newton I've found near my home. Around mile 5, I have to make a decision: Turn right and accept a 12 mile run, or go straight and run some roads I haven't run before.

    I live on the Newton hills. All my training routes involve them.
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