Do you believe in ghosts?
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I do. I've seen several over the years.0
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With the popularity of ghost and possession movies, do you believe in ghosts or supernatural stuff? Have you experienced something that you can't explain? What are your experiences? Do you have pictures?
I have included a photo of a picture my husband took on his cell phone late one night. Yes, I understand that there are apps that insert images in photos. But if you blow up the photo I have included, there is no disturbance of pixels and you can see right through the object in the photo. This happened when my husband was taking photos of our living room because he was using the "night vision" on his phone. My husband's shorts have been tugged on in our bedroom. Our laundry soap on the dryer has fallen off the dryer when it wasn't even running. We have heard the toilet seat drop and our children were in bed and everyone was asleep. This actually happened in our bathroom and not our children's bathroom.
Sounds like your husbands pranking you, thatd be pretty hilarious lol.0 -
The Bible on the death of humans:
"When they breathe their last, they return to the earth, and all their plans die with them." - Psalms 146:4
"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten." - Ecclesiastes 9:5
It sure doesn't sound like they're up and around bugging people, remembering their past lives or plotting revenge. You know the stuff that makes up every piece of ghost folklore ever.
In a nutshell dead is dead.
[edit] Most major world religions aren't really compatible with ghosts for a variety of reasons. There are some belief systems though that are basically chock full of spirits and dead ancestors watching over you and whatnot.
I'm pretty sure you missed a few things. The bible discusses how we shouldn't try to contact the dead, referring to living spirits.
Also, there was a specific ghost mentioned in the OT. The ghost of Samuel, called by the Witch of Endor.
I don't know what this means, but I'll assume it is hilarious.
Just an actual biblical reference to a ghost that was mentioned in the Old Testament.
The bible also contains references to dragons, sea monsters, and zombies. Fun stuff.
I must have missed all that. Hmmm. Do you have references? I want to read up on zombies.
Here's a tiny bit of The Word (from The Bible) about "Zombies, dragons and sea monsters...
So-called Zombies (of a sort...though some (like The Bible and me
) some of these "living dead" are called saints (small s)...not zombies--I reckon the ones who died in the sins and experience "The Second Death" could be called zombies though--check it out:
1 Thessalonians 4 (King James Version)
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
And...
Revelations Chapter 20 (KJV)
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Dragon(s) There are many references to "the dragon" and dragon in The Word, but here's just one:
Revelation Chapter 12: (KJV)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Sea Monsters
Read The Book of Jonah and...also search out Leviathan
Isaiah 27...
Isaiah 27
King James Version (KJV)
27 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
2 In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine.
3 I the Lord do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.
4 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle? I would go through them, I would burn them together.
5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.
Thanks for quoting that work of fiction.
My honor and pleasure sir. One person's fiction is another person's Truth...just as one person's trash is another person's treasure. Thank you so much for taking the time to read it too. :flowerforyou:
:flowerforyou: 
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I'm a scaredy cat....looks like I won't be sleeping tonight after seeing those images.
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I'm with ya on that one! No sleep for me tonight!0 -
I believe in ghosts and that picture is scary as hell!
My mum used to see things all the time when she was younger0 -
I think ghosts are demons in disguise
The more tragic the death the more likely the spirit will show up
That's what I think..
I think that when people die they go to heaven or hell0 -
long ago people thought comets were signs from the Gods. we know thats not the case anymore. anything that is unexplained now will someday be as simple as that.
What about things like possession?
exactly...long ago people thought when someone was acting weird it was demonic possession..now we know its mental/psychaitric disorders that cause it.
What about the explanation for knowing a foreign language that they had never studied?
that has never happened.
Are you sure about that?
It could be possible, especially if you heard the language when you were a baby being spoken. Sometimes I have dreams entirely in Spanish or Portuguese, and I'm not fluent in either one of the languages. If you're talking about something like Tongues though, naw. That's just as spooky as ghosts, spirits, zombies and clowns.
LOL.
You think Pentacostal churches are "spooky?"
Just curious. No judgement.
ETA: I do not go to a Pentacostal church, for reference. My church is non-denominational, and I've never been to that particular denomination even for a visit.
Yes, I do. Buuuuuut, I would rather not go into why it is. Not the proper place.0 -
Yes, from personal experience. At my old apartment when I went into one of my kitchen closets I would occasionally feel a cold breeze and when I turned around I saw something tall and white... From my eyes I think it was a ghost or a spirit. Whatever it was it scared the heck outta me:noway:0
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The Bible on the death of humans:
"When they breathe their last, they return to the earth, and all their plans die with them." - Psalms 146:4
"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten." - Ecclesiastes 9:5
It sure doesn't sound like they're up and around bugging people, remembering their past lives or plotting revenge. You know the stuff that makes up every piece of ghost folklore ever.
In a nutshell dead is dead.
[edit] Most major world religions aren't really compatible with ghosts for a variety of reasons. There are some belief systems though that are basically chock full of spirits and dead ancestors watching over you and whatnot.
I'm pretty sure you missed a few things. The bible discusses how we shouldn't try to contact the dead, referring to living spirits.
Also, there was a specific ghost mentioned in the OT. The ghost of Samuel, called by the Witch of Endor.
I don't know what this means, but I'll assume it is hilarious.
Just an actual biblical reference to a ghost that was mentioned in the Old Testament.
The bible also contains references to dragons, sea monsters, and zombies. Fun stuff.
I must have missed all that. Hmmm. Do you have references? I want to read up on zombies.
Here's a tiny bit of The Word (from The Bible) about "Zombies, dragons and sea monsters...
So-called Zombies (of a sort...though some (like The Bible and me ) some of these "living dead" are called saints (small s)...not zombies--I reckon the ones who died in the sins and experience "The Second Death" could be called zombies though--check it out:
1 Thessalonians 4 (King James Version)
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
And...
Revelations Chapter 20 (KJV)
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Dragon(s) There are many references to "the dragon" and dragon in The Word, but here's just one:
Revelation Chapter 12: (KJV)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Sea Monsters
Read The Book of Jonah and...also search out Leviathan
Isaiah 27...
Isaiah 27
King James Version (KJV)
27 In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
2 In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine.
3 I the Lord do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.
4 Fury is not in me: who would set the briers and thorns against me in battle? I would go through them, I would burn them together.
5 Or let him take hold of my strength, that he may make peace with me; and he shall make peace with me.
Thanks for quoting that work of fiction.
My honor and pleasure sir. One person's fiction is another person's Truth...just as one person's trash is another person's treasure. Thank you so much for taking the time to read it too. :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
Meh, I wouldn't go so far as to call it a work of fiction. I will say though, that a book that's responsible for justifying slavery, genocide, murder and destruction should definitely be re-evaluated for its validity. The Bible is highly symbolic. There were no real dragons, sea monsters, or zombies, ghosts, spirits, nada. Clowns are real though. That's about it.0 -
No such thing as ghosts, or spirits, or zombies, the dead do not come back to life on any form. Once death occurs, kaput, you're dead.
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
― Albert Einstein
But if there's no life, there's no energy, so there can be no transference of energy.
And no, clowns don't apply either.
That doesn't make any sense. Energy transfers. This is physical law.
Explain it then, cause right now you're not making any sense to me. If there is no life, there is no energy, so how can energy transfer if there was no energy to begin with. The only way that it makes sense to me is if through decomposition then bugs turn that into energy or the body becomes compost for vegetation.
Energy is transferred through decomposition, exactly. Your body has energy stored in it (your muscles, your fat, your everything that makes you alive.) When you die that energy does not leave the universe. It is transferred within the system through (if you are cremated) the fire or (if you are buried) decomposition.
Einstein was not saying that your soul comes back to haunt people. He was saying that if you throw a ball the kinetic energy does not disappear when it stops rolling, it is transferred to the grass, to the air, to the friction of gravity and is stored as potential energy.
Ok, I get that. She was trying to use Einstein to prove the existence of ghosts though, as if when you die your spirit transfers to a spooky state. Not possible, IMO.0 -
Definitely, I've recently got in contact with http://www.spr.ac.uk/main/ (they do scientific experiments and famously did one in Norfolk that proved there is life after death and wrote a book on everything that happened) they're going to help me with strange things happening to me and photos I have! Add me if you want to know more or find me here:
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I definitely do!0
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No such thing as ghosts, or spirits, or zombies, the dead do not come back to life on any form. Once death occurs, kaput, you're dead.
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
― Albert Einstein
But if there's no life, there's no energy, so there can be no transference of energy.
And no, clowns don't apply either.
That doesn't make any sense. Energy transfers. This is physical law.
Explain it then, cause right now you're not making any sense to me. If there is no life, there is no energy, so how can energy transfer if there was no energy to begin with. The only way that it makes sense to me is if through decomposition then bugs turn that into energy or the body becomes compost for vegetation.
The statement in bold is wrong. The universe had energy well before life formed. The total energy in the universe remains constant, but it changes forms, e.g. it goes to the ground & air as we decompose. Not "spirits".
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No. Because I'm not an imbecile.0
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I don't believe in ghosts but it is possible for the brain to scare itself. I was working at a local attraction and was coming up with "ghost stories" for a ghost walk we were organising. I was working in an old, grade 2 listed building which creaked and groaned in the wind or even change of temp. Often I would get there before everyone else so was all alone. When you are that immersed in ghost stories as I was and in that building, it was very easy to let your imagination run away with you. However, logically, no I don't believe in them. I also laugh over shows that go on about "orbs" and "beams of light" which can easily be explained away by camera dirt and fractions on dust etc.0
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I believe in ghosts, spirits, demons and "aliens". being alive can't just end with death, where do we come from b4 life if there's no afterlife just for arguments sake.
I personally have witnessed ghost like apparations and definately have been more acute towards feeling energies beyond what we would normally percieve, never had one on a camera or any evidence to that fact that a spirit was present other then my own perceptions
Once when i was about 8yrs old i was on a YMCA camp in the hills and admittedly they told a ghost story about a cook that died on that property, late at night i was awaken by a moaning sound (very quiet tho) and there was a faint figure by the window.
another time a friend of the family had died in a car crash and a few days later i saw him in my bedroom all bloodied but that was just a glance b4 it vanished.
as for energies, i studied and was trained in the metaphysical arts like Reiki and seeing Aura's and while i was studying them i certainly witnessed alot of things that were really bizarre like definately saw Aura like almost clear halo's around people and objects and even an untrained unbeliever can feel heat and energy coming off living and non living objects thats a fact
Believer or not its upto you, but there are things beyond what we forget how to percieve when we age, stuff kids and animals can sense but as you age you become numb to it when "normal" life floods your senses with crap.0 -
From nothing we came to nothing we go, from presence to silence we flowI believe in ghosts, spirits, demons and "aliens". being alive can't just end with death, where do we come from b4 life if there's no afterlife just for arguments sake.0 -
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I don't believe in ghosts but it is possible for the brain to scare itself. I was working at a local attraction and was coming up with "ghost stories" for a ghost walk we were organising. I was working in an old, grade 2 listed building which creaked and groaned in the wind or even change of temp. Often I would get there before everyone else so was all alone. When you are that immersed in ghost stories as I was and in that building, it was very easy to let your imagination run away with you. However, logically, no I don't believe in them. I also laugh over shows that go on about "orbs" and "beams of light" which can easily be explained away by camera dirt and fractions on dust etc.
totally agree about the shows on TV they are all completely fake thats a given as are most mystics, religious nuts.
lately we have Ghost Hunters, Most Haunted, UFO Chasers/Hunters, Big Foot Chasers, TAPS, and everyone of them never shows a lick of evidence and off the record the cast members admit most of it is just staged for ratings purposes. But don't confuse that with what you percieve as logical and what is actually possible.
Life forming from nothing is not logical yet we all exist from an infitecimal undetectable point of existance and even science shows evidence of things that shouldn't be possible if it were a logical world..0 -
I believe in ghosts. If a ghost was living in my house and as long as no physical harm...I think that would be cool. I would check on the history of that house and see how and why they are still there. I would be so fascinated by that!
After my Dad had passed. He would turn on the lights in the kitchen and turn my curling iron on. My cat and dog were not freaked out by him and his spirit as you would see in movies. I was so thankful that he was living with us and roaming around the house. lol.0 -
From nothing we came to nothing we go, from presence to silence we flowI believe in ghosts, spirits, demons and "aliens". being alive can't just end with death, where do we come from b4 life if there's no afterlife just for arguments sake.
and how did we come from nothing if there's nothing to come from?0 -
where do we come from b4 life if there's no afterlife just for arguments sake.
A unicellular organism. Then time passes, and things happen, and stuff changes.0 -
I believe in ghosts. If a ghost was living in my house and as long as no physical harm...I think that would be cool. I would check on the history of that house and see how and why they are still there. I would be so fascinated by that!
After my Dad had passed. He would turn on the lights in the kitchen and turn my curling iron on. My cat and dog were not freaked out by him and his spirit as you would see in movies. I was so thankful that he was living with us and roaming around the house. lol.
thats funny my dog that passed away 2 years ago use to freak out for no reason, he'd stare at the doorway then panic and run down to the other end of the house and wouldn't come back down you'd have to physically drag him, and during that period i was getting goosebumps alot, since he passed away i don't sense anything anymore.0 -
Sometimes I think theres nothing after dead. NOTHING. but then I hope its not. I dont know if I believe in ghosts or not.
I grew up catholic and buddhistic. Buddhists do believe in afterlife and are supersticious.0 -
I believe, from personal experience. Once I saw one in an old pub that i worked in when I was 17, second time I was in Stockholm., by the old parliment house.0
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From nothing we came to nothing we go, from presence to silence we flowI believe in ghosts, spirits, demons and "aliens". being alive can't just end with death, where do we come from b4 life if there's no afterlife just for arguments sake.
and how did we come from nothing if there's nothing to come from?
You're asking some people on a fitness forum a question that the best minds in the world are currently digging up most of the underside of Switzerland and firing things into other things in machines the size of a village to try and find out the answer to?0 -
We are the ghosts . After all, what we "see" is just reflected light/(energy) interpreted by the brain. :laugh:0
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Yep, I believe they exist. I'd like to pass your photo on to a local paranormal group and see what they have to say about it if you don't mind.0
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence that points to either a spiritual world or a god/goddess or an afterlife. I am open minded, just not willing to believe so readily that I will not look for a reasonable cause to the effect. *shrug* If someone can prove it to me and for me to see with my own eyes, I'm ready to agree with it as a fact. Until then, I remain highly sceptical.0
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