Is bread really that bad
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TorresCarmeniifym wrote: »Some are, some are not- Check out, Netflix, "Whats With Wheat" it talks about why so many people now are having issues digesting wheat/gluten. GMO'd wheat does more damage than good. Look for Dave's Killer Bread 21 grain or Non-GMO bread. Sourdough is good because the process to make it is different.
Getting nutrition advice from unreliable sources like Netflix documentaries is part of the problem here. Not the solution.28 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Bread is good for me. Very good. I have it every day and had it twice today (a french roll and rustic flatbread) and it tasted amazing. It also fills me up. Same with rice, I have it about 4 times a week and had it today. Are you afraid bread and rice would affect your weight loss? They wouldn't if you're within calories, just like any food (more than 100 lbs lost eating these items every day). Are you worried about the carbs in them? You shouldn't be if you have no problems with blood sugar. Are you worried about gluten? You shouldn't if you don't have issues with it. Do you overeat rice and bread and it makes it harder for you to stay within calories? Then you need to look for ways to manage your calories better and judge for yourself how many calories are these items worth. What exactly are you reading that is scaring
I have no medical issues at all plus I eat within my calories never over whole thing with eating carbs will raise insulin and will be hard to loose weight is what's scaring me I do work out at least 5x week thank u you're insightful0 -
Ericnutrition wrote: »deputy_randolph wrote: »I eat bread everyday...it's delicious. You need carbs for life.
But you don't need bread as your source for carbs.
Needing or not needing bread says nothing as to wether or not bread is bad, which it is not...8 -
I don't eat bread that much any more but not because I believe it is bad for me. I just prefer to get my calories from foods I enjoy more. Got to make choices that you can stick with for life if you want to lose weight and then maintain that weight loss for life.
On another note common sense tells us which foods are empty calories which offer little in regards to nutrition. We can all name them with no problems at all. It is these foods that need to be regarded as treats. If any site throws foods into that list that leave you scratching your head (carbs, including fruit us a prime example) then take what you read with a grain of salt and look more extensively for the truth. No food should be demonised and labels as bad, unhealthy or evil and should be eliminated from ones diet, except for medical reasons. All foods, including candy, can form part of a healthy balanced diet, if eaten in moderation and in conjunction with foods that are jammed packed with nutritional goodness.3 -
Why do you think insulin temporarily rising to regulate your blood sugar is a bad thing?
(Hint - that's how your body is supposed to work.)17 -
I have bread once a week and rice almost everyday but the internet got me scared
Based on your own experience not the internet, has anything bad ever happened to you eating bread and rice? Have you felt the slightest bit unwell after consuming bread or had trouble losing weight as long as you watch your calorie intake?
If you are not allergic to the ingredients then there really is not a problem.6 -
Of course they do. All high carb foods do. Insulin is an important hormone that aids satiety, regulates energy storage, controls blood sugar, enhances dopamine release (feel good hormone), helps cells use sugar (basically "feeds" cells), enhances muscle building, and many other good things. If you have issues with that system or if you don't produce enough insulin you're in for a host of problems and out of control blood sugar. Insulin is not bad or scary. When there are certain medical issues, like insulin resistance or diabetes, carbs become a thing to watch for. If you have none of these issues you needn't worry about it. That's like being scared of peanuts when you don't have a peanut allergy.
Insulin is a "fat storage" hormone. This is true, and it's a very important function. People read "fat storage" and freak out. It can't create fat from thin air, it needs calories that exceed your daily needs to store fat. It basically "shuttles" the extra, it doesn't create it. If you are in a caloric deficit you can be 1000% sure that there won't be extra net fat storage and it will not affect your weight loss.7 -
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Sugar & bread are devil's spawn, created just to ensure that people get fat. Check it out, it's on the internet.19
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Bread is just good for the soul...
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cushman5279 wrote: »Bread is just good for the soul...
I thought that was Chicken Soup?4 -
It's called insulin response and, yes, it can be affected by consumption of foodstuffs that cause spikes in that insulin response. Here's information from a reliable internet source that explains about carbohydrates and insulin response. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates/carbohydrates-and-blood-sugar/
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Yes, bread and anything that contains so many carbs will cause your insulin to spike and it will be a miracle if you manage to avoid a trip to the ER from it (assuming the paramedics can get to you in time to and revive you). Furthermore, even if you do manage to survive, you will probably gain at least 10 pounds per week from it at a minimum. Even running a marathon will not be enough exercise to work it off because carbs send your body into a form of toxic shock syndrome.
My advice? Clean out your refrigerator immediately and throw it's current contents in the trash. Replace this with an entire slab of beef from a butcher shop, including the innards like the heart, lungs, brain, etc. Also be sure to go to Sam's Clubs and score a 55 gallon drum of butter and a couple of pallets of pork rinds and beef jerky.
If you are lucky, you might still be able to salvage your health.27 -
unless you have some kind of medical issues that limits your intake of certain foods there is absolutely no reason to restrict anything in your diet. Don't fall victim to the labels of "good" or "bad" foods. As with everything else, as long as you eat it in moderation and and it fits into your calories then go for it... for me personally I don't eat white bread, rice or pasta simply because I don't care for it... but if I did I would have it whenever I desired it, just as I do any other foods...6
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JustRobby1 wrote: »Yes, bread and anything that contains so many carbs will cause your insulin to spike and it will be a miracle if you manage to avoid a trip to the ER from it (assuming the paramedics can get to you in time to and revive you). Furthermore, even if you do manage to survive, you will probably gain at least 10 pounds per week from it at a minimum. Even running a marathon will not be enough exercise to work it off because carbs send your body into a form of toxic shock syndrome.
My advice? Clean out your refrigerator immediately and throw it's current contents in the trash. Replace this with an entire slab of beef from a butcher shop, including the innards like the heart, lungs, brain, etc. Also be sure to go to Sam's Clubs and score a 55 gallon drum of butter and a couple of pallets of pork rinds and beef jerky.
If you are lucky, you might still be able to salvage your health.
In a thread where the OP is having a hard time differentiating between good information and bad on the internet, this kind of sarcasm isn't helping.24 -
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Ericnutrition wrote: »HeidiCooksSupper wrote: »It's called insulin response and, yes, it can be affected by consumption of foodstuffs that cause spikes in that insulin response. Here's information from a reliable internet source that explains about carbohydrates and insulin response. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates/carbohydrates-and-blood-sugar/
How dare you post some garbage article by some garbage Google "expert."
Wait a minute, it's from Harvard University! Guess it's not woo after all.
And it's meaningless in the context of a meal...13 -
I cannot comment on the science of bread, rice and pasta
For me personally, they are like gateway drugs . . . they tend to awaken my cravings for sweets and overeating. So I think some want to determine some science behind this when I could just be 'don't eat it or limit your consumption' I just think of it like other foods that I am allergic to or have sensitivities to, I can eat it but I must then manage the result of my transgression. Balance and moderation are the keys.9 -
I cannot comment on the science of bread, rice and pasta
For me personally, they are like gateway drugs . . . they tend to awaken my cravings for sweets and overeating. So I think some want to determine some science behind this when I could just be 'don't eat it or limit your consumption' I just think of it like other foods that I am allergic to or have sensitivities to, I can eat it but I must then manage the result of my transgression. Balance and moderation are the keys.
really? rice makes you crave for cookies?2 -
Maybe if you made the bread yourself with organic ingredients the internet would approve... Maybe to be safe, grow all the ingredients yourself... funny story, I tried to do that... Do you know how annoying it is to turn wheat into flour by hand?!7
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That would mean your body is working the way it's supposed to.
The problem isn't with bread specifically...or rice specifically...these things have been dietary staples for many cultures forever...look at the Japanese...one of the healthiest populations in the world and they eat a lot of rice.
The problem is over-consumption in general...eating far more than your body needs and not moving. When you are constantly over-eating, you're insulin levels are chronically raised and one can become insulin resistant as a result.
Insulin is just a hormone that in particular controls the blood glucose levels. Insulin acts as a "key" to open up your cells for glucose to be allowed to use as energy...this is the way your body is designed to work.
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Ericnutrition wrote: »HeidiCooksSupper wrote: »It's called insulin response and, yes, it can be affected by consumption of foodstuffs that cause spikes in that insulin response. Here's information from a reliable internet source that explains about carbohydrates and insulin response. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates/carbohydrates-and-blood-sugar/
How dare you post some garbage article by some garbage Google "expert."
Wait a minute, it's from Harvard University! Guess it's not woo after all.
So the human body doing what it's supposed to do is "bad?"11 -
Bread is just fine. Western civilization could hardly have happened if it were not.6
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If bread/carbs were really bad for us, you'd think the human race would have perished long before the keto fad and all the carb fear started. I mean, humans have been eating bread for what, a couple thousand years?14
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I frequently see a Facebook ad that suggests that bananas are a devil food. I ignore ads. I am also cautious with facebook group claims. The same with reddit. When it comes to aspartame, animal rights, dairy, the 'military diet', fluoride, vaccines, and GMO, I ignore the first page of google hits. I rather check the website of origin.
When I want to get to the truth of a matter, I go to the experts which in this case would be the national agency responsible for health, or the WHO. If I want to dig deeper I read double-blind peer reviewed research.9 -
If bread/carbs were really bad for us, you'd think the human race would have perished long before the keto fad and all the carb fear started. I mean, humans have been eating bread for what, a couple thousand years?
rice was first farmed around 2000bc or before i reckon.
i believe that some of the low carb, keto gang is somewhat successful in maintaining their diet purely to show that it was carbs that got them fat in the first place. whatever works.2 -
If you are diabetic or insulin resistant - bread intake needs to be watched. If not, fit it in your calorie goals and macros and you are good. There is so much mis-information out there - don't believe that it is true.4
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