Of refeeds and diet breaks
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »22 C here according to Metservice, can usually add another couple to that at my place. The sun has come out, so the house is a-heating up. The ceiling fan is at least blowing that hot air around though
@JoLightensUp, I'm really enjoying Strong Curves (at home version). Except Swiss ball back extensions, those I just feel like I'm doing wrong. And anything involving a Swiss ball is awkward, frankly.
I think my measurements are back to where they were pre-pred. Waist I still live in hope of reducing further, the rest are fine. I have a thigh gap, y'all. The envy of teenage girls everywhere
(I don't have a gap at the very top, and nor do I aspire to such a thing).
Swiss ball stuff gets better as your core stabilizes. Stick with it. It's meant to be awkward to engage those stabilizer muscles
Back extensions are awkward on the Swiss ball. I'm too short to have done them on mine without rolling off, I used to do them on my weight bench with my feet anchored on my couch.
Side crunches (the only other Swiss ball thing I currently have to do) are actually fine. I have awesome core strength from yoga. The back extensions is actually a lower back issue. I don't think I'm over-extending, but maybe I am.
26 C outside, 28 in I could go sit under a tree or something, but I kind of feel if my poor long-haired dork cat is suffering, I should too. 2 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Yeah I'm an Aussie, but it was an American tv show. It's "shark week" this week on Foxtel (cable).
It's 30 C here today @VintageFeline , up to 38 on Wednesday
For the Americans, 38 C = 100.4 F
We had 38 yesterday @Christine_72... Ewww. 34 today, but supposed to be cooling off for the rest of the week. Christmas shopping hours are somewhat of a blessing - I try to make an effort to run to our local shops everyday, and they have just started opening at 7am instead of 8. Means I can still get out without getting too hot/burnt.
@Nony_Mouse, I'm with you on the logging. I made rocky road to take to a party, and ended up with a lot left. I keep nibbling at it! Doesn't help that I have absolutely no idea how calorific it is (just, very).
I have another Dr appt this afternoon - I've had 3 lots of blood tests since my last visit, so hopefully she's got a better picture of what is going on, and I get some answers and ways to improve things!3 -
I do hope you get some answers @livingleanlivingclean
My great plans of pizza for dinner were scuttled again by the no way in hell am I turning the oven on with a shut up house.1 -
I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks whilst at work (I get excited and search every morning for updates) I love reading all background science, as I like to know why I am doing stuff! Though I haven't been implementing re-feeds as such, I have been trying to slowly reverse diet my way out of a deficit as I was struggling with training and have definitely noticed a difference in energy and training levels.
I just wanted to unlurk and say hello- and that I am planning on a diet break over Christmas, just cause all of the food!
Oh and meet Enzo, our resident Santas little helper
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stephaniedenise28 wrote: »I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks whilst at work (I get excited and search every morning for updates) I love reading all background science, as I like to know why I am doing stuff! Though I haven't been implementing re-feeds as such, I have been trying to slowly reverse diet my way out of a deficit as I was struggling with training and have definitely noticed a difference in energy and training levels.
I just wanted to unlurk and say hello- and that I am planning on a diet break over Christmas, just cause all of the food!
Oh and meet Enzo, our resident Santas little helper
Welcome and hello Enzo!
@livingleanlivingclean , I hope you get some answers.
On my front, I have a nasty migraine today. I was going to dive into my body weight program, Body By You, full on, but might need to postpone it. Still will try to keep up some sort of semblance of activity.
Weekend refeed was a success. Up three pounds, and have some interesting thoughts on how I feel about the scale vs. how I've been feeling in the past. My weight is now in the territory where my higher weight fluctuations are more comfortable for me to look at. So the brain hamsters are a little less annoying than they had been. I'm back to being a bit more laissez-faire about the whole scale thing.
So anyway, I guess that's just my roundabout way of saying that I realize now that my brain hamsters were due to just overall dissatisfaction at the number the scale was hitting.
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Welcome @stephaniedenise28 and Enzo!
I am determined to strength train today. I need to do some yoga first, because my muscles are all kinds of tight and a bit crampy. Ideally I need to get this exercise show on the road early, before it gets insano hot in my house.
Mario has more going on than just his injured leg (he's done something to his left elbow, what we don't know), but he's also dropped more weight in the past three weeks, hasn't been eating much, and just seems frail. I am used to my big, strong boy being big and strong. We've definitely overshot his hyperthyroid med dose (he was so borderline it was really a 'do we treat or not' thing, that we started meds only because his weight was slowly dropping), so we're backing off on that. Some of his kidney values were out of whack on the in-house tests, we need to wait for the full lab diagnostics to come back to know more as to whether this is a temporary glitch with other stuff going on. He also has a slight temperature, and a couple of tiny, tiny puncture wounds that look fine, but he is on antibiotics just in case. So, lots going on for my poor boy. He's fairly sedate (because he's sedated), so not doing dorky things like stalking from door to door trying to get out to go hunt.
I also have a sick fish (glowlight tetra). She may or may not make it. My success rate for saving fish is pretty dismal, because there's really not a lot you can do.
Me, skin is holding well, hay fever is through the roof because I forgot to take an antihistamine before bed last night, headache that ibuprofen will knock on the head fairly quickly I hope, weight steady as a rock.
Oh! And I grew a strawberry! Finally got around to planting the ones I bought last week, and found this wee lovely:
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I also have a sick fish (glowlight tetra). She may or may not make it. My success rate for saving fish is pretty dismal, because there's really not a lot you can do.
We have a sick fish right now too. Hard to tell what's up, she's just been very lethargic and hasn't had much of an appetite for about a week now. We've done some online research, but it's hard to tell what is going on without many physical signs.
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janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I also have a sick fish (glowlight tetra). She may or may not make it. My success rate for saving fish is pretty dismal, because there's really not a lot you can do.
We have a sick fish right now too. Hard to tell what's up, she's just been very lethargic and hasn't had much of an appetite for about a week now. We've done some online research, but it's hard to tell what is going on without many physical signs.
Yeah, tiny little animals are difficult. She's one of my big ones, so I think a couple of years old, could just be her time (glowlights don't live long). Initial thought was that the nitrates in the tank had spiked because I'd slacked on water changes (Giles' daily watermelon means I need to be pretty vigilant cos it mucks up the water pretty quick), but a) I for some reason did not grab a vial of water to test as I did the water change, and b) she's not behaving like others who have suffered the nitrate poisoning fate. She may actually be doing a little better today. She's not moving around at all, but she is upright (has been the whole time), and no longer right at the top of the tank. I've only ever brought two fish back from whack water chemistry, one who survived when everyone else died - she was touch and go for some time and didn't eat for a good week but don't remember now if she was not moving around at all, and another who somehow miraculously survived a nitrate spike but had a bung swim bladder that meant she was always kind of vertical instead of horizontal, she bobbed around in an attempt to keep herself right, and was hence named Bobbi. She passed away earlier this year, after probably 18 months like that. Anyway, little fish is in the breeder tank so she's not getting buffeted around by the filter current and I know where she is and can keep an eye on her. I'll give her another salt dip shortly, but really it's just watch and wait.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »
I also have a sick fish (glowlight tetra). She may or may not make it. My success rate for saving fish is pretty dismal, because there's really not a lot you can do.
We have a sick fish right now too. Hard to tell what's up, she's just been very lethargic and hasn't had much of an appetite for about a week now. We've done some online research, but it's hard to tell what is going on without many physical signs.
Yeah, tiny little animals are difficult. She's one of my big ones, so I think a couple of years old, could just be her time (glowlights don't live long). Initial thought was that the nitrates in the tank had spiked because I'd slacked on water changes (Giles' daily watermelon means I need to be pretty vigilant cos it mucks up the water pretty quick), but a) I for some reason did not grab a vial of water to test as I did the water change, and b) she's not behaving like others who have suffered the nitrate poisoning fate. She may actually be doing a little better today. She's not moving around at all, but she is upright (has been the whole time), and no longer right at the top of the tank. I've only ever brought two fish back from whack water chemistry, one who survived when everyone else died - she was touch and go for some time and didn't eat for a good week but don't remember now if she was not moving around at all, and another who somehow miraculously survived a nitrate spike but had a bung swim bladder that meant she was always kind of vertical instead of horizontal, she bobbed around in an attempt to keep herself right, and was hence named Bobbi. She passed away earlier this year, after probably 18 months like that. Anyway, little fish is in the breeder tank so she's not getting buffeted around by the filter current and I know where she is and can keep an eye on her. I'll give her another salt dip shortly, but really it's just watch and wait.
I hope your girl comes right, Jane.
Thank you. I hope yours does too.1 -
It's amazing how attached we get to these tiny creatures we can't even pat, isn't it?1
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So my cold has really amounted to nothing in the end, most peculiar because I felt like total crud yesterday. Today, no sneezing, no runny nose, no headache, no sore inside face. Just really tired. And some of the tired might be from sleeping awkwardly because I have exchanged the cold for some sort of shoulder thing.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »It's amazing how attached we get to these tiny creatures we can't even pat, isn't it?
I know, right? I have no idea what she's thinking or how she actually experiences her life, but none of that matters. I feel a connection to her and -- from the way she usually darts around her tank when she sees my face -- she experiences . . . something in relation to me.
There's also a sense of obligation I feel, since I chose to bring her into my home. I just want to feel like I'm doing right by her.2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »So my cold has really amounted to nothing in the end, most peculiar because I felt like total crud yesterday. Today, no sneezing, no runny nose, no headache, no sore inside face. Just really tired. And some of the tired might be from sleeping awkwardly because I have exchanged the cold for some sort of shoulder thing.
Go me.
That happens to me a lot, one or two days of feeling like the big one is coming and then nothing. I have come to the totally uneducated and unfounded conclusion that my immune system is a powerful behemoth that kills whatever sickness tries to take hold but confiscates all my resources in the process. 3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »It's amazing how attached we get to these tiny creatures we can't even pat, isn't it?
I know, right? I have no idea what she's thinking or how she actually experiences her life, but none of that matters. I feel a connection to her and -- from the way she usually darts around her tank when she sees my face -- she experiences . . . something in relation to me.
There's also a sense of obligation I feel, since I chose to bring her into my home. I just want to feel like I'm doing right by her.
Yeah, with Bobbi I did a lot of contemplating as to whether I should just let her go, if life was just a struggle for her with needing to work at keeping herself semi stable, but she seemed happy enough, ate well etc, so I figured it wasn't my place to make that decision for her (I always have clove oil and vodka at the ready for when I know one is past the point of no return).1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »So my cold has really amounted to nothing in the end, most peculiar because I felt like total crud yesterday. Today, no sneezing, no runny nose, no headache, no sore inside face. Just really tired. And some of the tired might be from sleeping awkwardly because I have exchanged the cold for some sort of shoulder thing.
Go me.
That happens to me a lot, one or two days of feeling like the big one is coming and then nothing. I have come to the totally uneducated and unfounded conclusion that my immune system is a powerful behemoth that kills whatever sickness tries to take hold but confiscates all my resources in the process.
Never happens to me but something interesting has been going on since change in mental meds a year ago. I used to catch every single bug going and suffer royally. When I was my most mentally unwell colds turned to chest infections because I'm (low level) asthmatic. But this last year I've barely caught a thing. So I guess that whilst I'm not "well" head wise (it's a bit better, mostly just moods more even) my immune system is seeing a benefit!1 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »It's amazing how attached we get to these tiny creatures we can't even pat, isn't it?
I know, right? I have no idea what she's thinking or how she actually experiences her life, but none of that matters. I feel a connection to her and -- from the way she usually darts around her tank when she sees my face -- she experiences . . . something in relation to me.
There's also a sense of obligation I feel, since I chose to bring her into my home. I just want to feel like I'm doing right by her.
Yeah, with Bobbi I did a lot of contemplating as to whether I should just let her go, if life was just a struggle for her with needing to work at keeping herself semi stable, but she seemed happy enough, ate well etc, so I figured it wasn't my place to make that decision for her (I always have clove oil and vodka at the ready for when I know one is past the point of no return).
Yeah, that's why you have vodka handy........2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »It's amazing how attached we get to these tiny creatures we can't even pat, isn't it?
I know, right? I have no idea what she's thinking or how she actually experiences her life, but none of that matters. I feel a connection to her and -- from the way she usually darts around her tank when she sees my face -- she experiences . . . something in relation to me.
There's also a sense of obligation I feel, since I chose to bring her into my home. I just want to feel like I'm doing right by her.
Yeah, with Bobbi I did a lot of contemplating as to whether I should just let her go, if life was just a struggle for her with needing to work at keeping herself semi stable, but she seemed happy enough, ate well etc, so I figured it wasn't my place to make that decision for her (I always have clove oil and vodka at the ready for when I know one is past the point of no return).
Yeah, that's why you have vodka handy........
Haha, it actually is!! Admittedly I have drunk some of that vodka, but when I got the current bottle, the bottle shop I got it at didn't have hip flasks, so I had to get the big one. It would take forever to get through if it was only used for easing fish into the next realm.1 -
I'm back from my weekend adventure. On Saturday I went to a funeral service for my brother's fiancee's mom, ate the things there, went home and ate the things there, leased a new car and ate the things at the dealership, sped on the freeway and streets home to test drive my new baby and ate the things there again.
Yesterday was my mom's birthday, so thing eating continued through korean bbq and patisserie dessert items, trained all major compound movements as I coached my dad to properly use a barbell. I'm certain it might be manly ego, but he likes to muscle his way through using challenging weight at the expense of proper form and movement pattern, and felt a bit of a tug on his left adductor when he jumped the weight from 20 lbs on the bar to 70 lbs. I had him immediately stop and rest, but showed him where he may have went wrong. It's hard to train parents when they may have a conflict of authority, but it's far more impressive to see the art of "what feels good" and "proper technique" blended together to be a movement that one has mastered, rather than just lifting raw weight.
Takeaway is progress slowly .. weight increase should be gradual once you have a firm command of the movement, but don't stay too long at one weight for a given period of time just to "master" it because you may master the light weight, but any additional increase will cause you to have to "remaster" it again and that's just not effective. The form is the form no matter the weight. Your muscles just need to adapt to the load.
Anywho, I whooshed from Friday to Saturday morning despite the increased calorie intake since last Wednesday, and gained 4 lbs over the weekend, for a net increase of 2 lbs as of this morning. I'm sure that will even back out throughout the week, but I'm 177.4 as of today. Gaintenance mode is coming along nicely so far since recovery is quick as hell and my constant complaint of elbow pain is now down to a 2 or 3/10 compared to the 5 or 6/10 last week. Extra carbs makes me want to sleep in but that's the usual result after coming from being relatively low carb.5 -
Yoga achieved, sun now streaming into living room
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I think I need to give in and get a net curtain for that window. I hate them, but it's not helping with the indoor heat having that much sun getting in. The house does heat up no matter what, I don't think the lack of ceiling cavity helps with that, nor the solid wood (so pretty, so heat retentive), but the more I can control it, the better. 2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »stephaniedenise28 wrote: »I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks whilst at work (I get excited and search every morning for updates) I love reading all background science, as I like to know why I am doing stuff! Though I haven't been implementing re-feeds as such, I have been trying to slowly reverse diet my way out of a deficit as I was struggling with training and have definitely noticed a difference in energy and training levels.
I just wanted to unlurk and say hello- and that I am planning on a diet break over Christmas, just cause all of the food!
Oh and meet Enzo, our resident Santas little helper
Welcome and hello Enzo!
@livingleanlivingclean , I hope you get some answers.
On my front, I have a nasty migraine today. I was going to dive into my body weight program, Body By You, full on, but might need to postpone it. Still will try to keep up some sort of semblance of activity.
Weekend refeed was a success. Up three pounds, and have some interesting thoughts on how I feel about the scale vs. how I've been feeling in the past. My weight is now in the territory where my higher weight fluctuations are more comfortable for me to look at. So the brain hamsters are a little less annoying than they had been. I'm back to being a bit more laissez-faire about the whole scale thing.
So anyway, I guess that's just my roundabout way of saying that I realize now that my brain hamsters were due to just overall dissatisfaction at the number the scale was hitting.
Mind games are a very strange thing.
I hope your migraine has eased and you're feeling a lot better, @GottaBurnEmAll.
I find the mental aspect of weight loss as interesting as the physical side. I'm trying to work more on my own thinking this time around. It's helpful to read your reflections.
Hi @stephaniedenise28. Is Enzo an Italian greyhound? He's very handsome. I thought a whippet at first, but then noticed his name. 1 -
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I like that number on the scale. It's also a good thing that I know this is really as low as I should go from previous experience. The real challenge will come if I slim off more with strength training, even without losing weight, and the possibility that I may need to get my wee head around gaining a little. I really don't anticipate massive changes though, because we all know it's unlikely I'm ever going to set foot in a gym, therefore only so far I can go without significant investment in home gym equipment.5
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VintageFeline wrote: »So my cold has really amounted to nothing in the end, most peculiar because I felt like total crud yesterday. Today, no sneezing, no runny nose, no headache, no sore inside face. Just really tired. And some of the tired might be from sleeping awkwardly because I have exchanged the cold for some sort of shoulder thing.
Go me.
That happens to me a lot, one or two days of feeling like the big one is coming and then nothing. I have come to the totally uneducated and unfounded conclusion that my immune system is a powerful behemoth that kills whatever sickness tries to take hold but confiscates all my resources in the process.
Me, too and I find it really annoying. I've been dragging the last few days and thought it was allergies (the Santa Ana winds and ash and smoke from all the fires), but an thinking it might be a cold trying to take hold since the allergies meds did bupkus to alleviate my symptoms.
It's Finals Week for my students and we had a major facility issue crop up last night and it's almost now fixed (13 hours later). But I'm running on little sleep. That's the most frustrating thing, at times. I love my job, but working these crazy hours (usually 60-ish a week, salaried, no overtime) paired with the stress can take its toll. Usually in me missing workouts.
@livingleanlivingclean hope the tests yield some answers for you!
@Nony_Mouse and @janejellyroll sorry about the ill fish. I always felt so helpless when my beloved pets were sick!
@GottaBurnEmAll Sorry about the migraine. A work colleague suffered from those for years. They left her so drained and barely able to function. Hope your clears up quickly!2 -
@psychgrrl, reasons I decided not to be an academic...2
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Thanks for the well wishes on the migraine ladies. In the grand scheme of things, it's one of my milder ones, so I'm managing. It seems like the front that came through last night set it off, which isn't surprising. My head is very sensitive to pressure changes. I just really don't need anything to wipe me out further at this point.
Well, it makes sticking to going back to deficit very easy today, that's for sure!3 -
In fitness science related news, Eric Helms just posted his doctorate graduation pics from NZ. @Nony_Mouse belongs to a bit of fitspo history by population lol.
The fires here were surrounding my area, but nothing that immediately threatened my neighborhood. Though, I do have a friend whose house was 3 miles from the heart of it and luckily the winds blew the fire away from his home. Well, lucky for him, but unfortunate for those who had to be evacuated.4 -
Bret Contreras did his doctorate here too
Who knew NZ was the go to place for these things?!
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Bret Contreras did his doctorate here too Who knew NZ was the go to place for these things?!
It's 29 C in my house
I'm having flashbacks to my flat in summer. Mind you, our summer was largely crap this year so I didn't have to put up with it too much. Other years it has been hellish. I love the heat but cannot cope well if it's indoors with me!
NZ does have an alarmingly large per head gifted athlete ratio so it sort of makes sense.1 -
I think for their specific degrees or purposes of conducting research, there may not be an equivalent here in the states.. I know Eric mentioned it in a podcast with Danny Lennon. I just can't remember the exact reason. Lol.0
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We are big on the sporty stuff, esp. stupid rugby. And yet somehow still manage to be 3rd in the world for obesity.3
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