Is dairy actually bad for you?

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  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 9,564 Member
    GailK1967 wrote: »
    You can develop an intolerance or allergy at any time of your life, regardless of whether you've been eating it for years.

    IMO dairy is very tasty, relatively cheap and an easy source of protein for humans but NOT healthy or ideal. No other species goes and sucks on another species once it's weaned so why do we gobble the milk of other animals? The answer is because it's been heavily marketed to us and it tastes great especially with all that other *kitten* added to it. Hence why so many people do develop an intolerance to it at some point.

    We are biologically programmed to eat our own species milk (ie breast milk) until weaning age which should be around 2-6 years of age. After that we have absolutely no evolutionary or biological need for milk.

    Most animals, when given the chance, will drink another animal's milk.

    Pretty sure I saw an article.about a cat suckling hedgehogs.

    I didn’t see it, but I’d bet they were baby hedgehogs.

    https://youtu.be/jBB6pIfts7Y

    For a while there I thought they might need to call in a lactation specialist for the one on the left, who seemed to be having some trouble latching on.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 8,002 Member
    I have mentioned in these threads before that my husband is allergic to cats - gets runny nose, itchy rash, sneezing, weepy eyes.
    Above is a fact.

    Therefore nobody should have a pet cat - Not a fact.

    Well, he probably shouldn’t.

    Well, obviously he shouldnt.

    Just like people who are lactose intolerant shouldn't consume diary.

    But my point was that I don't extrapolate from 'my husband is allergic to cats' to 'nobody should have a cat'
    That would be silly and ridiculous.

    Just like extrapolating from 'Some people are lactose intolerant' to 'Nobody should consume dairy' is silly and ridiculous.

  • Sunnybrooke99
    Sunnybrooke99 Posts: 369 Member
    I have mentioned in these threads before that my husband is allergic to cats - gets runny nose, itchy rash, sneezing, weepy eyes.
    Above is a fact.

    Therefore nobody should have a pet cat - Not a fact.

    Well, he probably shouldn’t.

    Well, obviously he shouldnt.

    Just like people who are lactose intolerant shouldn't consume diary.

    But my point was that I don't extrapolate from 'my husband is allergic to cats' to 'nobody should have a cat'
    That would be silly and ridiculous.

    Just like extrapolating from 'Some people are lactose intolerant' to 'Nobody should consume dairy' is silly and ridiculous.

    No one else is extrapolating that either.. just that lactose problems are more common than most people realize, and it’s worth cutting it out for awhile to see. Actually, I think cat allergy and other allergies are more common than a lot of ppl realize too. I didn’t find out I have moderate pollen allergies until I was in my mid thirties. I just thought I had “sinus issues,”
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I have mentioned in these threads before that my husband is allergic to cats - gets runny nose, itchy rash, sneezing, weepy eyes.
    Above is a fact.

    Therefore nobody should have a pet cat - Not a fact.

    Well, he probably shouldn’t.

    Well, obviously he shouldnt.

    Just like people who are lactose intolerant shouldn't consume diary.

    But my point was that I don't extrapolate from 'my husband is allergic to cats' to 'nobody should have a cat'
    That would be silly and ridiculous.

    Just like extrapolating from 'Some people are lactose intolerant' to 'Nobody should consume dairy' is silly and ridiculous.

    No one else is extrapolating that either.. just that lactose problems are more common than most people realize, and it’s worth cutting it out for awhile to see. Actually, I think cat allergy and other allergies are more common than a lot of ppl realize too. I didn’t find out I have moderate pollen allergies until I was in my mid thirties. I just thought I had “sinus issues,”

    Well, no, you were asserting that even people (no matter what their background) should assume that they likely have a problem with lactose based on the claim that "most" people do. That's not accurate. In many places and among people of many backgrounds, being lactose intolerance (and a bad reaction to milk) is quite rare. Intolerance to cheese and yogurt is less common still. (And many adults who have no lactose issues still don't consume much milk. I know I don't. So the idea that I should worry that I might have an undiagnosed lactose issue seems really odd.)

    It's true that lactose intolerance is not uncommon, so if I thought someone had a reaction to some food and was trouble-shooting, checking out dairy as a culprit would not be a bad idea, but that's different from what you said, which is that most people have unknown issues so should try cutting it out.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 8,002 Member
    You may not have quite asserted that nobody should eat dairy - but you are asserting that many people have undiagnosed lactose intolerance which I don't agree is the case.

    There were also other posters who did say nobody should eat dairy - my analogy about cat allergy was directed to the thread in general.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,465 Member
    Hmmmmm. This got me digging in to what a "fermentable fiber" is and why it is so beneficial. It turns out the cells lining our guts love butyrate, produced by the fiber-loving probiotics that live in our colon.

    This article is decent, and cites it's sources nicely:

    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/other-nutrients/fiber

    Fruits, vegetables, oats and barley are rich in fermentable fiber. We might be familiar with another one of the byproducts of all this fermenting action.....

    I protest that wild strawberries are far sweeter than their cultivated cousins.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,465 Member
    In the article I linked above, they have found with additional research that the fiber-cancer prevention link is doubtful.
  • ritzvin
    ritzvin Posts: 2,854 Member
    Now I'm craving both egg nog and arequipe! (in all their sugary, fatty tastiness). damn you all ;P