December 2017 Running Challenge
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Today's the first day of my 2 week vacation. Started it off by putting on a suit and going into the office for an interview. The new job would be with a different division within my company (I work for an ria subsidiary of a larger bank. The new job would be within the bank itself). It would be a huge step up for me in terms of job grade and career potential, so I'm excited! When my current superiors found out I had an interview, they were immediately on the phone with HR trying to come up with a counter offer to convince me to stay, so I may come out ahead even if this doesn't work out.
Came home from the interview with the intention of going out for a run, but no motivation whatsoever . I managed to drag myself out, along with my running buddy (Jayde, the gsd/husky mix). The first mile was super slow. Like 11 minutes or so. But I finally hit a groove after that and managed to finish the 5k in under 30 minutes (29:42, I think).
Now to get ready for the company Christmas party tonight. Should be interesting.6 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »@Elise4270 yes I brought Mia in just where it was looking like the concussion I had as a kid. They said she's fine, so idk but she is incredibly angsty today. Her first words when I woke her up this morning we're, "I don't want YOU! I want Daddy!"
Aww kids!
glad she's ok. 0 -
@stoshew71, @7lenny7 ,@ceciliaslater, @hjeppley , @MNLittleFinn , @PastorVincent , @rusgolden and anyone that I missed....
Thanks for the empathy! I am just so happy to be moving forward. It does suck to be down, nothing I haven't already done.
Now for some retail therapy (the way
Dr @karllundy prescribes). ohh I see a MAAAAAALLL on this long drive home (I'm really in the lot- not driving and texting).... No more Starbucks tho. Gahhh caffeine jitters.4 -
12/01 - Intentional rest day
12/02 - Run Santa Run 5k - 22:11 PR!
12/03 - 13.5 miles @ 9:24
12/04 - unplanned rest day
12/05 - 10.1 miles @ 9:21
12/06 - 10 miles @ 9:24
12/07 - Strength + 7 miles @ 9:14
12/08 - Nada
12/09 - Nada
12/10 - Nada
12/11 - 11 miles @ 9:53
12/12 - 9 miles @ 9:53
12/13 - Nada
Big Hairy Audacious Goal: Sub 4 hours in Pittsburgh 2018!
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
02/10/18 - Valentine's Day 15k
03/17/18 - Shamrock Shuffle Half Marathon
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
05/12/18 - Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Ultra (I must hate myself)
2020 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
No run today - maybe tomorrow.1 -
@Elise4270 - Glad you have a plan! Had to look up the decompression and am a little confused. Are they removing the trochanteric bursa too? Or is that the surgery you are avoiding? Curious because, besides wanting you to be able to run ASAP, I am wondering if my periodic hip/butt pain isn't a milder form of some of the issues you've had. Also, if you have the means, retail therapy is always appropriate!2
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@skippygirlsmom - You ran up Diamondhead?!?! OMG, when I was there I weighed ~280 lbs. and gasped the whole way up walking.
@PastorVincent - FWIW, like @MNLittleFinn , my hands get cold based more upon the wind than the temperature too. Today was ~40° F, but super windy and my hands felt like ice cubes. And roads are definitely a better choice than most sidewalks.
@greenolivetree - Sorry things are rough. Hope you feel better soon!
@JessicaMcB - glad your daughter is OK. I've had to deal with a kid that has had 4 (at least) concussions in the last two years. Ugh! His head is some kind of magnet for objects (mostly other people). I don't like 20 miles in a week on the 'mill, I can't imagine a single run. You are some sort of running prodigy / god / freak and I am in awe!
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12/1 - 4.2
12/2 - 2.5
12/4 - 3.3
12/7 - 4.2
12/9 - 7.4
12/11 - 3.0
12/13 - 4.2
December total: 28.8/ ???2 -
12/1 9.75mi
12/2 4mi
12/3 rest
12/4 4mi
12/5 6mi
12/6 5.64mi
12/7 10mi
12/8 4mi
12/9 4.3mi
12/10 rest
12/11 5.5mi
12/12 4mi
12/13 9.25mi
Seriously freezing out there this morning! Maybe teens with the wind chill. I felt pretty good, my pace was pretty fast, probably cause I never really felt heated!
By the end of my run my hands were hurting from the cold. I was 1.25 miles from home and instead of walking to cool down like I usually do I ran home cause it was way too cold!
Still I was happy I went out and braved the cold!
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@Elise4270 - Glad you have a plan! Had to look up the decompression and am a little confused. Are they removing the trochanteric bursa too? Or is that the surgery you are avoiding? Curious because, besides wanting you to be able to run ASAP, I am wondering if my periodic hip/butt pain isn't a milder form of some of the issues you've had. Also, if you have the means, retail therapy is always appropriate!
Unfortunately, I found nothing that wanted to come home with me.
I could only assume, that he'll make the decision whether or not to remove the Bursa once he gets in there. As far as I know it is not part of the plan but it may be part of the routine procedure.
You might see if you can find you a good hip orthopedic surgeon, and have some Imaging done.
I did have some knee pain, but figured it was only part of the left hips problem not this problem with the right. Now it's turned into chronic exterior hip pain at the trochanteric bursa.0 -
@Elise4270 Sorry to hear about you being out, but then as others have mentioned, now that there's light at the end of the tunnel, that must bring its own form of relief. And that violin, oh that violin!2
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@karllundy If you have deep butt pain, in the piriformis area, you might research DGS. The diagnostic tool is an EMG, and a special MRI t3 I think..
My case was caused by a blood vessel, I guess wrapped around somewhere, as well as 3 nerve branches tethering the sciatic nerve. My guy, Hal Martin, has publications on the matter. I'm part of his next study group...
My posterior is a fascinating statistic.
So sometimes, no amount of PT and dedication to rehab will fix it.3 -
@Elise4270 Sorry to hear about you being out, but then as others have mentioned, now that there's light at the end of the tunnel, that must bring its own form of relief. And that violin, oh that violin!
Yes it does.... Now I just have to tell work.
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@Elise4270 I'm so glad you have a plan and know what you are facing.
@karllundy I ran up all the steps. We couldn't run the entire thing too many people
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December goal: 75 miles
12/3: 9.1 miles
12/5: 3.1 miles (intervals)
12/6: 4.2 miles
12/8: 4.1 miles
12/10: 8.1 miles
12/12: 4.2 miles
12/13: 4.2 miles
37/75
I managed 4.2 miles today. I felt slow and sluggish, but I guess they can't all be awesome runs. I was really tired today and that probably didn't help my run. But I felt good afterwards so I was glad I got out there.
@elise4270 Sorry about the no running, but it's good to know what you are dealing with.
@skippygirlsmom It was 75F today, but it is supposed to be 55F tomorrow. I'm going to take your advise and wear gloves and a headband. It might not seem that cold to most, but I hate having cold hands.
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12/1 = 4 miles
12/2 = 4 miles
12/3 = 7 miles
12/4 = 4.5 miles
12/5 = yoga class
12/6 = 3.5 miles on the dreadmill and strength training
12/7 = rest
12/8 = 2.5 mile
12/9 = rest
12/10 = 26.7 BSC Marathon
12/11 = rest
12/12 = rest
12/13 = 3 miles
Someone asked me for a race report about 186 posts ago. I can’t remember who and I will never catch up on all the posts at this point. Now that I can walk downstairs without wincing, here is a short race post marathon report thingy.
After starting out too fast at my last half marathon, I decided to follow a pacer for the marathon. I had no idea what time I was going to be able to run the marathon in. Half my training was walk/run intervals and the other half was straight running. I decided that a 5 hour time was a reasonable goal for my first marathon. Thanks to a chronically late running friend who was racing with me, I arrived at the start line right as the gun went off. I had to sprint the first five minutes to catch up to the five hour pacing group. (My late friend is forgiven – she drove and signed up for the VIP package. The parking lot was right next to the finish line. That was so awesome because walking was next to impossible after the race).
The course was lovely and the weather was perfect. A morning low of 37 and a high of 62 degrees F. Some hills but they were all rolling. We ran through Texas A&M campus and the surrounding farms. There were lots of students volunteering and cheering the racers on. I even saw Santa at one of the hydration stations.
Plenty of Gatorade and water stations. I brought a handheld Nathan water bottle with me just in case. I ended up chucking it at mile 21. My shoulder started aching from the stupid weight of the thing. They even had stations with bananas and orange slices. I can’t use Gu or runner supplements because they tear up my stomach. The fruit stations were a very welcome surprise.
I am super grateful for the pacer group. The first half of the marathon I was very tempted to speed up. I realized how bad of an idea that was at mile 22 when everything hurt and I wanted to die. Plus, the group gave me people to talk to and pass the time.
Most of the pacer group fell off at mile 23. At that point, we figured out that the course was 0.5 mile too long (I guess this means I ran an "ultra" LOL). The pacer started freaking out that she would not finish in time. She told us we were going to have to speed up the last few miles. I said “Ugh, Okay” out loud and speed up (but what I really wanted to say was *kitten* the race measure-er person and *kitten* going faster -- I am going to lay down in the middle of this freakin road and never get up again).
The race funds were used to raise money for The Mercy Project (they rescue children in Ghana from slavery). The last mile of the race, there were posters lining the road with pictures of the children who have been rescued. Very cool to see.
I crossed the finish line slightly delusional and exhausted with a full lower body cramp at 5 hours. Oh, and minus a toenail (that just finished growing back last month).
Signed up for my next marathon today. Now I have to run one in 4 hours 45 minutes. ;p
December Goal = Run a freakin marathon and not die. Done! 5 hours: 0 minutes: 42 seconds
Upcoming 2018 Races
1/6 = River Road Run 1/2 marathon
3/3 = Woodlands Marathon
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Whoo!!!!
No long distance running...
Surgery January 25th.
Endoscopic decompression of the ITB that is 7mm thick at the I attachment. He said 5mm warrants surgical intervention, because there's no way I'm getting that thickness to stretch.
6 week crutches, said I'd be 70% at 12 weeks. And I should be able to resume running, I have a good hip structure for running, *flatterer*
Run on my people's.
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Non-running check in:
Skimming the posts. Too dang many injuries. Yay for @Elise4270 getting a diagnosis and treatment plan. Sad face for everyone who can't run and wants to.
Today I'm healthy enough to jog up and down my hallway for 2 minutes while the eggs cook in the morning. I'm not healthy enough for real running. I have an appointment on Friday with a sports doc (chiro, active release therapy) that a lot of club members use. I hope to learn just what the heck I injured and what I need to do in order to get better. Other than rest, which is taking an awful lot of time. Or perhaps I just go back and run too soon, delaying healing.
On the bus to and from Club Nationals, there were repeated announcements about going over goals for next year with Coach. He couldn't get to everyone on the bus, and I didn't have the goal chat with him yet. There will be other opportunities. But I got to thinking about goals, and what tops my list is to get and stay healthy. Thought some about injury, how it happens, and what I want out of running.
There are a lot of moving parts, but my injury history is mostly related to being too aggressive with training volume and intensity. The catch, of course, is that I don't know how much I need to back off. But I have a couple of clues. I've tended to get injured either after marathons, or (most recently) during marathon training. To stay healthy, I need to learn to *run* marathons instead of *race* marathons. Either that, or give up marathons entirely because I'm too stupid to back off enough in training.
Well, I'm committed to Boston 2018. That might be my last marathon. It *will* be my only marathon in 2018, whether it's the absolute last marathon I run or not. Two years in a row, I've crapped out of a fall marathon in a way that disrupted other things I'd like to do. 2016, DNF Rochester Marathon. 2017, DNS Rochester Marathon. 2018, don't attempt Rochester Marathon and focus on other things that time of year.
Tentative 2018 running goals, subject to revision:
1. GET AND STAY HEALTHY. Fail this one, and the rest don't matter.
2. Run Boston, and finish healthy. Time is not important Managing the race well is.
3. Support the GVH Supervet team running USATF Masters Grand Prix events
4. Support the GVH Supervet team running cross country events
5. To the extent it doesn't conflict with higher priority goals, compete in the GRTC Rochester Runner of the Year Series (try to win age group) and the USATF Niagara Runner of the Year Series (don't expect to win masters title; my chance at that this year is because no one was paying attention early.)
6. Other races only if they don't conflict with the higher priority goals. I expect to fit some half marathons into this category, and there may be a half marathon in #3.
In other news, I noticed that I've run more miles in 2017 than I did in 2016, even if I don't run another step in December. I expect I'll run fewer miles in 2018 than in 2017. And that's okay, if it enables me to stay healthy enough to run regularly.8 -
I could only assume, that he'll make the decision whether or not to remove the Bursa once he gets in there. As far as I know it is not part of the plan but it may be part of the routine procedure.
PLEASE do not do this. ASK about it. Ask why they would or would not. Do not even assume your doctor is thinking about it at all. Participate in your care. You will be much better off in the long run.
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PastorVincent wrote: »I could only assume, that he'll make the decision whether or not to remove the Bursa once he gets in there. As far as I know it is not part of the plan but it may be part of the routine procedure.
PLEASE do not do this. ASK about it. Ask why they would or would not. Do not even assume your doctor is thinking about it at all. Participate in your care. You will be much better off in the long run.
I understand your point. But he's the expert, not me. He'll tell me exactly what he'll do and why the morning of the surgery. I have no doubt in his abilities and judgement. Which is why he's my surgeon.
I do hope the bursa is removed. It's such a pain.3 -
@elise4270 - I am glad you have answers. You are actually giving me hope that my move today was in a correct direction.
After yesterday’s totally outrageous 2 miles in 30 minutes (clearly breaking speed records and everything) my ankle rewarded me by being swollen, achey, and making the bad popping catching clicky business with nearly every step, even WITH the brace on.
So... after 6 months of:
“K so we don’t know what’s wrong, but don’t run for a while”
*feels better but not great with no running*
“See, we are geniuses, it is better!”
*tries running*
*ankle gets angry and implodes*
*sarah complains*
“Well, duh, we told you not to run on it”
.... somehow this doesn’t seem to actually be a solution
“Ok try these balance exercises”
“K... so I am the first to admit my balance needs improvement... but how is this solving problem?”
“Well, you aren’t running, so, it’s better, so seeeeee we know what we are doing”
And further iterations of similar circular logic, with both doc and pt .... I got mad today when it hurt and was doing that lovely clicking that makes your teeth grind like nails on a chalk board.... so I officially have an appointment with the only nice and sparkly bone and joint orthopedic place that doesn’t require going to a different state... yet....
My work situation is such that I REALLY need the outlet I get from running.... weightlifting helps.... but i can’t seem to lift until I run out of attitude like I can run until I run out of attitude. So... hopefully we can come up with an answer. Or at least a better plan.
K- that was long... so, um,
tldr= sarah got broken enough/ mad enough to try going to a doctor, again4 -
12/13: speed day - did 1 fast mile on the paved path, a break, then fartleked / hiked through the woods five miles, including about a mile and a half running intervals, for a total of 2.5 miles running.
We shaved another thirty seconds off our mile time! 9 minutes eleven seconds. My goal right now is to be able to do a sub-30 minute 5k, so the plan is we're going to add a second speed interval and gradually increase it to a mile, then eliminate the break between until we can do two fast miles. I know nine minutes and change is still slow to most people here, but a month ago I couldn't run a mile in twelve minutes!
Also: I'm one of the cool kids now, I got my first Buff! My husband and I bought them for each other as an early Christmas present. His is the denim merino wool, and mine is plum merino wool. We needed them today, the wind was gusting twenty-five mph!
I haven't memorized everyone's name well enough to reply to all the people on the thread, but I do read all the posts. Well done to all the racers, my deepest sympathy to the injured, and my thoughts are with those in the path of the fire.
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@karllundy freak is likely the most accurate descriptor
So I hate the treadmill...a lot...so much...effffff. Decided to do a fast 10k and wrap some Christmas presents. P.S. Does anyone know how to switch a Precor from miles to km? The manual lies and converting is a pain in my metric loving can.
December 1- 18
December 2- 52
December 3- 20+8
December 4- 20
December 5- 16
December 6- 12
December 7- Off
December 8- 29
December 9- 28
December 10- 161 [16:28:02]
December 11- Off
December 12- 6
December 13- 10
380/626km
2018 Races
*Gord's Frozen A** 50K, February 19
*JAJA Trail Marathon, April 1
*Red Deer Marathon, May 20
???Lone Wolf Last Man Standing Race, June 17
*Cactus Coulee Crawl 30km, TBA June
*Eddie's Half Marathon, TBA June
*Run in the Buff 120km TBA August
*Lost Souls 100 Mile September 7
???Lewiston Trail Ultra September 29
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December goal: 95.71 miles
12/1 3.51
12/2 5.00
12/3 rest
12/4 4.25
12/5 5.87
12/6 4.30
12/7 3.25
12/8 rest
12/9 6.01
12/10 3.13
12/11 rest
12/12 5.20
12/13 4.94
Total 45.46
Ticker is my goal for 2017 and progress to date:
Upcoming races:
Phoenix Women's 10k 1/28/18
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@Elise4270 My reaction was "Yay!" too! Very glad you have a treatment plan.
@rheddmobile Icing injuries never made sense to me.
@JessicaMcB Hope Mia is feeling 100% soon.
@amymoreorless Wow, tough marathon! So happy for you completing it, and in a good time!!
@MobyCarp That's some serious insight.
You too, @hanlonsk!MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »QUESTION:
Maybe it is just cause I am fat, old and slow... but when I have to take a bunch of days OFF in a row, the first run back is like stiff and more painful. Is that normal?
Depends on how long a bunch is and the reason for the lay off.
Reason: Life comes at you fast and steals your time to run
Bunch: This case.. 3.
Normally I feel awesome running after that type of lay off.... but then again, running is my ONLY stress relief, so getting back to it is always a joy, so I don't notice aches or pains or stiffness.
@Orphia 6:08/km.... I need to start posting everything in Mi and Km.....
I would REALLY appreciate that! I try to do the same for you all when I'm leisurely on my PC.
I tend to feel guilty all the time because I just automatically think you're all so slow when I see your times
, but really lots of you are very speedy.
While I'm here, a photo from today's rest day walk.
Wow! I love this picture. It would look great framed and over someone's fireplace mantel in the living room.
@ereck44 Thank you!
Actually, on Monday, I was accepted as a photographer to sell at a local gallery in our main street. This photo will probably end up being framed and going in there.lporter229 wrote: »@Orphia- Yet another stellar run photo. Surely I can't be the only one that is jealous of your runs!
@lporter229 Thank you. xo See above. I'm quite selective about which bits I show to people. 8 -
December 5 — 4.11 miles
December 11 — 4.1 miles (although for some unknown reason my Garmin only recorded 2)
December 13 — 4.07 miles
December total 12.28 miles
I managed my regular run tonight in newly fallen 8 inches of snow. Decided to try out my Due North traction aids (similar to Yaktrax) rather than submit to the treadmill. Figured if it seemed too slippery after running two blocks I would go home and use the treadmill. Then I realized that even if I did fall I probably wouldn’t hurt myself because the snow was so deep.
It would have been a lot easier to run on the road since there were a least a few sets of tire tracks, but after watching cars fishtail and slide through intersections, I decided it was safer to run on the sidewalk, or at least where I thought the sidewalk was. Running in deep snow is hard! Every step was like a little hop.
It made me realize on a small scale the kind of conditions that runners like @MNLittleFinn @Jessica_McB @juliet3455 and @sarahthes run in every day in winter. I was exhausted at the end of my 4 miles. Oh well it still beats a treadmill. 5 -
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@kgirlhart - it was 45 this morning and I wore gloves because yesterday morning it was around the same and I didn't wear them and hands were miserable until I was close to home. Looking at temps for Sun-Friday when I will be in Virginia visiting my mom.... yikes! May need double gloves!
12/1 - 1.5 miles #RWRunStreak Day9
12/2 - 43 miles cycling + 1 mile #RWRunStreak Day10
12/3 - 40 miles cycling + 1 mile #RWRunStreak Day11
12/4 - 3.1 miles + Strength Training Glutes W3-A - #RWRunStreak Day12
12/5 - 4 miles #RWRunStreak Day 13 + strength training W3B
12/6 - 2 miles #RWRunStreak Day 14
12/7 - 1.3 miles #RWRunStreak Day 15 + strength training W3C
12/8 - 4 miles #RWRunStreak Day 16
12/9 - 7 miles! #RWRunStreak Day 17
12/10 - 1 mile #RWRunStreak Day 18 + Glutes W4A
12/11 - 3.11 miles #RWRunStreakDay 19
12/12 - 2 miles #RWRunStreakDay 20 + Glues W4B
12/13 - 3 miles #RWRunStreakDay21 + arms
12/14 - 3.5 miles #RWRunStreakDay22
Daytona Beach HM - 2/4/19
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Very slushy messy today. Considering doing 6 miles uphill on dreadmill instead of dealing with it.1
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