February 2018 Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »@PastorVincent and @midwesterner85 - Even though the run is loaded to Strava after completion, if you run the same route over and over again, couldn't someone tell from the pattern on the feed where you live or work, starting point, finishing point, etc.?
So if I was a sleezeball and wanted to stalk some lady I could easily look over her last 10 Strava runs and make a reasonable guess to her patterns. Humans are creatures of habit. Once I made that guess I could just start running at the same time and location to verify. It would not be hard to soon be able to run all the same routes and times as said lady.
But, that really is not an issue for most men. It is more likely a lady would use that information to avoid a man, than anything else.
The only thing anyone could tell from my Strava route is that I start and finish somewhere along a main road. Given that there are a number of roads branching off that main road, I could live in a house anywhere in any of those streets. That's the point of the Strava hidden locations - it doesn't show the true start point. So for my theoretical stalker, I live in the park. Or in the Football Stadium. Or in the local museum's storage unit. Or maybe on the bridge.
@PastorVincent I suspect there are plenty of women stalkers around.....but yes, it's probably more an issue for women. The story I heard about privacy settings related more to people listing expensive bikes in their Strava feed, and then having their address readily available. Like a shopping list.0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
I figured out how to set it to Enhanced Security but where is the Hidden Locations option?
Here, this page explains it all:
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000173384-Privacy-Zones
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Thanks. I was trying to do it from my app instead of logging into Strava from a computer.0 -
2/1 5miles
An easy 5 miler. I really tried to keep it was since I have 14 on the schedule for tomorrow. My last few long runs have been difficult, but I wonder if it’s because I’m pushing hard the day before? So I’m testing out an easy run before my long run.
Excited to have a list of races to post!
3/18/2018 Shamrock half marathon
10/7/2018 Crawlin Crab half marathon
11/18/2018 Norfolk Harbor half marathon7 -
@lporter229 Funny how glycerin are my least favorite Brooks. They heel slip despite redoing the laces to help prevent it. And if I tighten them too much my toes get tingly.
My long runs I use Ravenna then I'd say launch are my next fav then ghosts. Although ghost isn't too far behind launch.3 -
girlinahat wrote: »
The only thing anyone could tell from my Strava route is that I start and finish somewhere along a main road. Given that there are a number of roads branching off that main road, I could live in a house anywhere in any of those streets. That's the point of the Strava hidden locations - it doesn't show the true start point. So for my theoretical stalker, I live in the park. Or in the Football Stadium. Or in the local museum's storage unit. Or maybe on the bridge.
Wrong They could wait along your route and follow you. It seriously not hard, if you are sleazy and dedicated, to figure out where a runner lives. If you noticed them they would just wait a few weeks and try again, if not, they would have you.
Besides they do not need to know your home address, just where you are likely to be at a given time if they want to do something to you.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »girlinahat wrote: »
The only thing anyone could tell from my Strava route is that I start and finish somewhere along a main road. Given that there are a number of roads branching off that main road, I could live in a house anywhere in any of those streets. That's the point of the Strava hidden locations - it doesn't show the true start point. So for my theoretical stalker, I live in the park. Or in the Football Stadium. Or in the local museum's storage unit. Or maybe on the bridge.
Wrong They could wait along your route and follow you. It seriously not hard, if you are sleazy and dedicated, to figure out where a runner lives. If you noticed them they would just wait a few weeks and try again, if not, they would have you.
Besides they do not need to know your home address, just where you are likely to be at a given time if they want to do something to you.
true. But the point is they don't know where I sleep at night.
Omigod, are you saying the old somewhat odourly challenged guy who stands at the corner of the street feeding pigeons is actually my stalker?
Or the woman with the over enthusiastic Red Setter? Or the one with the two pugs?
I'm seriously going to have to start heading out in the other direction, or change my days.5 -
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Can I join the party? Put me down for 50 . . need to get serious with my HM training. Running the Indy-mini on May 6th, about 13 weeks out now. Good luck to everyone and happy running!11
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Been gone for a while but still running. I have a marathon March 4 so the end of February will be in taper mode. I'm doing a couple races but not racing them in the mean time. I'm going to try to go back and read how everyone's doing.
February Goals:
Run Everyday (31 day streak currently)
Run 150 miles
Finish BAA Level 4 Training plan healthy
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2/1 5miles
An easy 5 miler. I really tried to keep it was since I have 14 on the schedule for tomorrow. My last few long runs have been difficult, but I wonder if it’s because I’m pushing hard the day before? So I’m testing out an easy run before my long run.
Excited to have a list of races to post!
3/18/2018 Shamrock half marathon
10/7/2018 Crawlin Crab half marathon
11/18/2018 Norfolk Harbor half marathon
Cool! My GF and friend are doing the Shamrock HM too! My friend and I are doing the Dolphin challenge which is the 5k Sat then HM Sunday. I always wanted to do Crawling Crab but I always seem to have a race on or near the date. Same with Norfolk Harbor HM. You got some great races scheduled! Hopefully the weather is better for Shamrock HM this year!
I've learned and relearned (and had to learn again) to have 2 easy days after a hard day and at least 2 easy days before. My recent hard workout last Friday 10 miles (2WU(8:30) (2x3@HM pace (7:00)4 min recovery between) 2WD(8:30)) made my 22 mile long "easy pace" turn out disastrous. I felt awful and beat up by the end.0 -
@PastorVincent - I was not saying you or @midwesterner85 are sleazy people - I really hope ya'll did not take it the wrong way. My main point is that for someone like me who does not vary their running route much, having my profile public on Strava could lead to someone stalking or attacking me. Even if the runs are loaded afetr they are completed.2
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@PastorVincent and @midwesterner85 - Even though the run is loaded to Strava after completion, if you run the same route over and over again, couldn't someone tell from the pattern on the feed where you live or work, starting point, finishing point, etc.?
@bride001 No, because I have 0.5 mile radius from my home address and work address blocked. They can only see part of my route and do not know where I start/stop if I start at home. They would be able to see the city, but that is on my profile anyway.
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@PastorVincent - I was not saying you or @midwesterner85 are sleazy people - I really hope ya'll did not take it the wrong way. My main point is that for someone like me who does not vary their running route much, having my profile public on Strava could lead to someone stalking or attacking me. Even if the runs are loaded afetr they are completed.
OK, But do you also run at the same time on the same days? My stalkee (joking, here... no need to turn me into the police, mmkay?) runs a particular area commonly. However, it is on different days and at different times. It seems pretty random to me, but probably fits somewhere within the rest of her schedule (which I haven't put enough effort to piece together, or it just isn't possible with available data).0 -
@PastorVincent - I was not saying you or @midwesterner85 are sleazy people - I really hope ya'll did not take it the wrong way. My main point is that for someone like me who does not vary their running route much, having my profile public on Strava could lead to someone stalking or attacking me. Even if the runs are loaded afetr they are completed.
I'm a stalker/murders dream come true. Same route, same days, same time. Anyone could easily follow me home, but my panties and bra don't match so I'm safe.
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@midwestern85 - My current training plan has me running 5 days a week with one rest day and a cross train day. Cross train day I usually ride my bike or if I need to, I take another rest day. I do not always get out and follow my training plan - but I tend to run in the mornings and usually start about the same time unless it is the weekend. Later start on the weekends but still usually in the mornings. I live on a single cul de sac road off a main highway and it is where I run just about everyday. If I have a long run and life does not get in the way, I will go to other roads or paths to run.
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I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?0
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@skippygirlsmom - LOL! if that is the criteria then I am safe as well!3
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I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?
IMO, wear Gortex or other water resistant shoes. I would not worry so much about grip, though, like for trail shoes.0 -
@PastorVincent I think you should have at least two different pair in rotation and they should not be the same model. Having slightly different fits, drops, etc, smooths out the effect of overuse syndrome from a single pair. I have no research I can point to which backs me up, but it makes sense to me and it certainly does no harm. At your volume though, if you're not experiencing any overuse issues now, I wouldn't worry about it.
Stocking up on those shoes is a different matter. You can rotate between two models AND stock up on them as well. The risk of stocking up is that you may decide to move away from that style shoe, or find a new favorite, but still have several pair of the old shoe to get through. That's what I'm facing. I want to get away from the high drop, high cushion shoes I've been wearing on the road (Gel Nimbus & Glycerins) and go flatter and firmer. I quit buying road shoes some time ago but still have about 700 miles left of the old styles.
@BrookeRunningMom awesome!
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I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?
@bride001 Was there any issue with the shoes you wore last year? If not, wear the same type. Personally I would avoid gortex. First, I wouldn't buy a shoe you only were needing for a race once a year. Second, a gortex shoe is designed not to let water in so long as the water doesn't come over the top. If a wave does comes up over the top, however, not only is it not going to keep that water from getting in, it's not going to let that water out and you'll be sloshing to the finish. Better to have a shoe designed to drain well and sock which can get wet and still not give you blisters. I can't think a situation where I'd use a gortex shoe for running.3 -
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2/1 5miles
An easy 5 miler. I really tried to keep it was since I have 14 on the schedule for tomorrow. My last few long runs have been difficult, but I wonder if it’s because I’m pushing hard the day before? So I’m testing out an easy run before my long run.
Excited to have a list of races to post!
3/18/2018 Shamrock half marathon
10/7/2018 Crawlin Crab half marathon
11/18/2018 Norfolk Harbor half marathon
Cool! My GF and friend are doing the Shamrock HM too! My friend and I are doing the Dolphin challenge which is the 5k Sat then HM Sunday. I always wanted to do Crawling Crab but I always seem to have a race on or near the date. Same with Norfolk Harbor HM. You got some great races scheduled! Hopefully the weather is better for Shamrock HM this year!
I've learned and relearned (and had to learn again) to have 2 easy days after a hard day and at least 2 easy days before. My recent hard workout last Friday 10 miles (2WU(8:30) (2x3@HM pace (7:00)4 min recovery between) 2WD(8:30)) made my 22 mile long "easy pace" turn out disastrous. I felt awful and beat up by the end.
This is my first time doing the shamrock half. I’ve run the 8k 3 years in a row now. The weather has always been nice on Saturday and terrible on Sunday. I’m really hoping that it will be nice on Sunday this year. Maybe because I am running it, it will!
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The thing about digital stalking is that except in a few situations, there isn't really anything that a person couldn't get more easily by simple physical observation. It's true that someone could look at Strava and figure out that you run in the same park every day, but also true that that same person could go to the park and follow you without Strava.
I do a lot of online genealogy for people, and to me the scary bits are the connecting bits. In the case of Strava that would be anything that tied your real name into your account. Then someone who doesn't know you at all except by name can get your run routes. I've "digitally stalked" a few DNA matches to try to figure out how we were related, and it's not unusual to be able to search local newspapers for a name, find the person's entire family and relationships listed in grandma's obituary, find their LinkedIn page with their resume and entire school and work history, their tax history, voting history, arrest record, where they live, any participation in charity events, a twitter account saying exactly what events they attend for fun, what the kids ate for lunch at school today and when the next sports event is, and their Pinterest account with the decorating scheme of their two year old's dream bedroom - all in less than an hour. And that's not even using paid services which search databases the public can't access. If you have any sort of online media presence your life is an open book. The thing is, it's really no different from the way living in a small town where everybody knows everybody used to be. It's just that we had a few decades of thinking we lived in a large enough space to be anonymous. The internet makes the whole world one small town.
By the way, on the subject of men being safer from stalking than women, both the stalkers - true crazy people who ended up having restraining orders against them - that I've known in real life were women. Women may be less likely to physically attack, since they are smaller and weaker, but one of them loosened the lug nuts on her ex-boyfriend's car, which could have been very dangerous, and the other started a fire in the garage of a female rival, which could have killed a whole family if not for sheer dumb luck. Not to mention that men stalk and attack men as well as women.6 -
I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?
Beach run? I would do that barefoot personally... never found a show that was as good a barefoot on the beach. Unless it is not the same kind of beach sand I am used too...2 -
I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?
@bride001 Was there any issue with the shoes you wore last year? If not, wear the same type. Personally I would avoid gortex. First, I wouldn't buy a shoe you only were needing for a race once a year. Second, a gortex shoe is designed not to let water in so long as the water doesn't come over the top. If a wave does comes up over the top, however, not only is it not going to keep that water from getting in, it's not going to let that water out and you'll be sloshing to the finish. Better to have a shoe designed to drain well and sock which can get wet and still not give you blisters. I can't think a situation where I'd use a gortex shoe for running.
My experience with goretex is that it does let water out - the whole point is that it's breathable as well as water resistant. Since my feet blister the instant they get wet, I really really rely on keeping them dry, and I run in a wetland preserve. Running last year in 100 degree weather my sock were barely damp in goretex, and well fitted shoes stay dry in ankle deep water. The only time they failed me was when they were pretty old and it seemed like between one day and the next, the goretex just gave up the ghost.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »I forgot to ask in my post from early day - my race in March is on a beach in hard packed sand. I ran this last year in road shoes, but should I look for trail shoes or other type shoes to run this race?
Beach run? I would do that barefoot personally... never found a show that was as good a barefoot on the beach. Unless it is not the same kind of beach sand I am used too...
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@bride001 from your upcoming race list it looks like you're in Louisiana. I'm doing the Rock n' Roll HM in New Orleans in March, and it'll be my first time in the state/city. I'm really excited! Any particular must sees/must do's you'd recommend, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks!1
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@abutcher2122 - I had to look where you live. I didn't realize you were so close to me! I am just down the road in Anaheim so I get running in tank tops. I have pretty much run in them all winter with the exception of a few days here and there.
@BrookeRunningMom - such a cute picture. Congratulations!!
@girlinahat - I am glad they confirmed your thyroid issue but I am sure it is not really what you wanted to hear. I have had thyroid issues all my life, initially diagnosed when I was around 7. All of my scans have been in cancer centers too I think because that is where they have the equipment to do it. So far none of my nodules have shown to be cancerous (I have very little thyroid left) and I hope yours just proves to be inflamed.
@skippygirlsmom - Me too although the time does vary depending on my work schedule. But I am safe based on your panty/bra criteria I also figure Hobbes the Vizsla will keep me safe on the trail even though he is a social butterfly, and at home he would scare anyone trying to come up to the house.
@rheddmobile - it really is amazing what is online and how many people have no idea what can be found about them online. If you work in IT it can be frightening to think about, scary to investigate for yourself and (especially) your family/children and frustrating when you start trying to deal with it in a logical manner. When I was teaching we used to to play a game with the kids using a made up series of FB posts to see what information they thought someone could learn about the child involved.
On shoes - my favorite is Skora's Tempo and now that they are back in business I just ordered a pair of Forms - they were on sale, 25% off, so I figured why not... I have Altras and Topo Athletics as well as a pair of newer Saucony Kinvaras. I seem to have lots of problems with the sizing of Altras but I have heard they are getting better. I don't find them often here in stores to be able to try them on so then I end up paying to return/exchange. I typically wear 0 drop or 4mm and the Kinvaras are about as cushioned as I can deal with. They are also heavier than any of my other shoes so I only wear them for shorter training runs and I have problems with the heels slipping and my toes going to sleep. I have tried Brooks, NB and Asics used to be my go to shoe but I can't wear them any longer.
@hjeppley - if you like Altras you might also check out Skora or Topo. So far my Skora Tempos are my favorite road shoe but I haven't run in the Forms yet. One thing I really like about the Form is it has an adjustable strap on the heel so that you can make it tighter if you have a narrow heel that tends to slip. Their shoes fit really well in the heel anyway but this just makes it a bit better.
I got my virtual race bag yesterday for the race this weekend and there was a discount for a race in one of my favorite, dog friendly, winery, get-away locations - Santa Ynez (even though it is the Santa Barbara Wine Country HM and Santa Barbara is about 1.5 hours away). It starts in Santa Ynez and runs through the farm and wine country into Los Olivios and ends back in Solvang. Unfortunately we already have a super busy month of May (it is Mother's Day weekend) but I already have it on my calendar for 2019 Hopefully I can convince my daughter to come from Seattle to run it with me!7 -
@PastorVincent - Here are a couple of pictures I took duirng the run last year. Race start is close to evening and they also have a 13 mile option. The picture with all the shoe tracks is the type of sand we run on. I do not feel comfortable running barefoot on this sand becuase of debris in the water - there seems to be lots of twigs and sticks that wash up on the beach
@7lenny7 - I ran in some old road shoes i had last year. Biggest problem last year was sand in the shoes and not water. Probably can't avoid the sand in the shoes.
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