I am somehow gaining weight on a calorie deficit..
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awesometin wrote: »awesometin wrote: »It's probably been said already (didn't bother reading the entire thread) but, if you are gaining weight, you are NOT in a calorie deficit.
You just need to accept CICO to understand that and the solution is simply to eat less and/or exercise more.
So below 1500 (some days just drink 3 shakes and it's about 500 calories) but still not in a calorie deficit? Hmm ok.
“Some days” and if you go over on other days because you’re not weighing your food and therefore not properly measuring your intake then you could very well be in a calorie surplus at the end of the week. The fact of the matter is that is is physiologically impossible to gain weight in a deficit.
By 'some days' I was referring to somedays I only do about 500 calories. Not that I go over. I make sure I don't. But okay I guess since I am not weighing my food and the nutrition value on it I guess is also incorrect so my shakes aren't 100 and 160 (I switch between two premade ones) ? I appreciate the added input but I think you're just suggesting here that I am going well over my calorie limit set by the app just because I didn't weigh my one constant meal for dinner. I doubt the last meal like others saw in this thread, chicken (boiled) rice and black beans (sometimes I don't add black beans) is over 1240 calories when I at-least measure it by cup sizes with a measuring cup. I can be a little over or under but not over 1000 off.
Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
I’m well aware that’s what you were referring to. What I was saying was that those days where you only eat 500 calories doesn’t say much because you could very well be eating in a surplus on other days without knowing. Your weekly deficit is arguably more important than day to day since you can go over some days and make up for it on another day and vise versa. If you’re steadily gaining, you’re not in a deficit, despite those “some days” where you’ve only eaten two prepackaged shakes.
Edited to add that whatever you gained in three days wasn’t fat as that would be extremely difficult even if you were trying. I didn’t read all of the responses to know that. I wouldn’t stress it.1 -
awesometin wrote: »awesometin wrote: »It's probably been said already (didn't bother reading the entire thread) but, if you are gaining weight, you are NOT in a calorie deficit.
You just need to accept CICO to understand that and the solution is simply to eat less and/or exercise more.
So below 1500 (some days just drink 3 shakes and it's about 500 calories) but still not in a calorie deficit? Hmm ok.
“Some days” and if you go over on other days because you’re not weighing your food and therefore not properly measuring your intake then you could very well be in a calorie surplus at the end of the week. The fact of the matter is that is is physiologically impossible to gain weight in a deficit.
By 'some days' I was referring to somedays I only do about 500 calories. Not that I go over. I make sure I don't. But okay I guess since I am not weighing my food and the nutrition value on it I guess is also incorrect so my shakes aren't 100 and 160 (I switch between two premade ones) ? I appreciate the added input but I think you're just suggesting here that I am going well over my calorie limit set by the app just because I didn't weigh my one constant meal for dinner. I doubt the last meal like others saw in this thread, chicken (boiled) rice and black beans (sometimes I don't add black beans) is over 1240 calories when I at-least measure it by cup sizes with a measuring cup. I can be a little over or under but not over 1000 off.
Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
I’m well aware that’s what you were referring to. What I was saying was that those days where you only eat 500 calories doesn’t say much because you could very well be eating in a surplus on other days without knowing. Your weekly deficit is arguably more important than day to day since you can go over some days and make up for it on another day and vise versa. If you’re steadily gaining, you’re not in a deficit, despite those “some days” where you’ve only eaten two prepackaged shakes.
Okay to elaborate more,
My 500ish days are just days when I do 3 shakes. The other days 2 shakes and just chicken with rice and black beans some days as my dinner (Some nights I skip on black beans). Your statement would be true for my situation if every day I was eating different stuff. Believe it or not..my diet is plain and boring. Mt steadily gaining is based off somehow going from 169-181 on the digital scale I bought these past 3 days. So I guess I ate several thousands of calories in those 3 days while having just my shakes and so far this week just one chicken meal on Monday? Doubtful. Maybe I shouldn't have worded by the title that way. I was just wondering what other than food can cause the back and forth on weight gain which others answered. Some day I am not eating enough and others are suggesting I am eating too much. Two shakes and chicken meal.0 -
Can this thread be locked? I got plenty of help already.1
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OP, what premade shakes are you drinking that are 100 and 160 calories? I know premier protein is around 160, but you said you drink slimfast and I know those are usually a lot more than 100 calories!0
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »OP, what premade shakes are you drinking that are 100 and 160 calories? I know premier protein is around 160, but you said you drink slimfast and I know those are usually a lot more than 100 calories!
I misspoke on the slimfast. I did a while ago. Lately just drinking Advant Edge Carb control. 100 calories. Some days I do Premier protein which is 160 (Well according to what everything online says about itbut I am being told it may not be accurate in this thread).0 -
awesometin wrote: »Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
It is actually interesting how many of these threads I have seen. A person eating practically no variety, under-eating some days, saying they have little to no appetite, and not accepting "skinnier" comments from other sources either being stuck for long periods of times or showing scale gains. It is the reason there are the occasional threads that suggest that you have to eat more to lose weight which are nonsense when it comes to losing fat.
It does lend credibility to the theory that the tighter wound you are (stressed) the more you will hold on to water. It could also suggest that the lack of variety may be a contributing factor nutritionally.
You can't be scared of calories.
You can't be scared of food.
You can't be scared of eating.
You can't (over)react to short term scale info
You need a variety.
You need to enjoy what you eat.
You need to patient.
You need to relax.
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awesometin wrote: »Can this thread be locked? I got plenty of help already.
I believe you can contact a mod (check the technical support forum) and they will lock/delete it for you. Take good care of yourself
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awesometin wrote: »awesometin wrote: »It's probably been said already (didn't bother reading the entire thread) but, if you are gaining weight, you are NOT in a calorie deficit.
You just need to accept CICO to understand that and the solution is simply to eat less and/or exercise more.
So below 1500 (some days just drink 3 shakes and it's about 500 calories) but still not in a calorie deficit? Hmm ok.
“Some days” and if you go over on other days because you’re not weighing your food and therefore not properly measuring your intake then you could very well be in a calorie surplus at the end of the week. The fact of the matter is that is is physiologically impossible to gain weight in a deficit.
By 'some days' I was referring to somedays I only do about 500 calories. Not that I go over. I make sure I don't. But okay I guess since I am not weighing my food and the nutrition value on it I guess is also incorrect so my shakes aren't 100 and 160 (I switch between two premade ones) ? I appreciate the added input but I think you're just suggesting here that I am going well over my calorie limit set by the app just because I didn't weigh my one constant meal for dinner. I doubt the last meal like others saw in this thread, chicken (boiled) rice and black beans (sometimes I don't add black beans) is over 1240 calories when I at-least measure it by cup sizes with a measuring cup. I can be a little over or under but not over 1000 off.
Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
Edited to add that whatever you gained in three days wasn’t fat as that would be extremely difficult even if you were trying. I didn’t read all of the responses to know that. I wouldn’t stress it.
Exactly. A lot of piling on for an issue that likely doesn't even exist. Good to at least skim the discussion.3 -
awesometin wrote: »Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
It is actually interesting how many of these threads I have seen. A person eating practically no variety, under-eating some days, saying they have little to no appetite, and not accepting "skinnier" comments from other sources either being stuck for long periods of times or showing scale gains. It is the reason there are the occasional threads that suggest that you have to eat more to lose weight which are nonsense when it comes to losing fat.
It does lend credibility to the theory that the tighter wound you are (stressed) the more you will hold on to water. It could also suggest that the lack of variety may be a contributing factor nutritionally.
You can't be scared of calories.
You can't be scared of food.
You can't be scared of eating.
You can't (over)react to short term scale info
You need a variety.
You need to enjoy what you eat.
You need to patient.
You need to relax.
And the congreation says"amen". Op, I understand what it feels like to be afraid to eat. I am what I call "fatarexic" I have extreme anxiety about weight regain. I am afraid to eat sometimes. I have to tell myself, that some bf is a good thing. I have read about people regaining 10-12lbs a month! Scares the kitten out of me. I am currently trying to wrap my head around the fact that as long as you control your intake and have a good output, that weight regain can be slowed. Example, I am currently "lean" bulking. I have been doing it for around 6 months. Now my weights jump around, but my trends are only up about 2.4lbs. I am on a, well I hate to call it this kitten, but a journey. Mine is just a little farther down the road than yours. I hope to be able to control myself. Just wanted to let you know, you are not alone. There is a whole forum of us.5 -
awesometin wrote: »Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
It is actually interesting how many of these threads I have seen. A person eating practically no variety, under-eating some days, saying they have little to no appetite, and not accepting "skinnier" comments from other sources either being stuck for long periods of times or showing scale gains. It is the reason there are the occasional threads that suggest that you have to eat more to lose weight which are nonsense when it comes to losing fat.
It does lend credibility to the theory that the tighter wound you are (stressed) the more you will hold on to water. It could also suggest that the lack of variety may be a contributing factor nutritionally.
You can't be scared of calories.
You can't be scared of food.
You can't be scared of eating.
You can't (over)react to short term scale info
You need a variety.
You need to enjoy what you eat.
You need to patient.
You need to relax.
Well, I thought I was doing decently at it until the odd weight gain and so far while a lot has helped here I do have plenty people doubting my intake which is making me feel like I have to somehow eat less than I am.2 -
awesometin wrote: »awesometin wrote: »Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
It is actually interesting how many of these threads I have seen. A person eating practically no variety, under-eating some days, saying they have little to no appetite, and not accepting "skinnier" comments from other sources either being stuck for long periods of times or showing scale gains. It is the reason there are the occasional threads that suggest that you have to eat more to lose weight which are nonsense when it comes to losing fat.
It does lend credibility to the theory that the tighter wound you are (stressed) the more you will hold on to water. It could also suggest that the lack of variety may be a contributing factor nutritionally.
You can't be scared of calories.
You can't be scared of food.
You can't be scared of eating.
You can't (over)react to short term scale info
You need a variety.
You need to enjoy what you eat.
You need to patient.
You need to relax.
Well, I thought I was doing decently at it until the odd weight gain and so far while a lot has helped here I do have plenty people doubting my intake which is making me feel like I have to somehow eat less than I am.
That's what I was afraid of- all the talk about "you're eating more than you think" was NOT good for you right now. Please don't think this way. Get that food scale, if for no other reason that you can know for sure where you are at and don't create undue stress on yourself. But don't obsess, and if you sense you are becoming obsessive, don't hesitate to reach out for help. This process takes a lifetime (including maintenance). Extreme measures are a mistake.8 -
awesometin wrote: »awesometin wrote: »Sorry if I found annoyed there. Maybe I just jumped the gun too earlier on the weight gain because I somehow added 12 pounds in 3 days which sounds difficult to do with what I am eating..
It is actually interesting how many of these threads I have seen. A person eating practically no variety, under-eating some days, saying they have little to no appetite, and not accepting "skinnier" comments from other sources either being stuck for long periods of times or showing scale gains. It is the reason there are the occasional threads that suggest that you have to eat more to lose weight which are nonsense when it comes to losing fat.
It does lend credibility to the theory that the tighter wound you are (stressed) the more you will hold on to water. It could also suggest that the lack of variety may be a contributing factor nutritionally.
You can't be scared of calories.
You can't be scared of food.
You can't be scared of eating.
You can't (over)react to short term scale info
You need a variety.
You need to enjoy what you eat.
You need to patient.
You need to relax.
Well, I thought I was doing decently at it until the odd weight gain and so far while a lot has helped here I do have plenty people doubting my intake which is making me feel like I have to somehow eat less than I am.
In the long run, only you know whether or not your logging is accurate enough. These can all be good things to keep in mind, but most people don't need to be perfect at logging unless they're trying to lose those last few pounds. A lot of the people answering here don't have the whole picture since we only just got to the point where this is a timeline of only a couple of days.
You should eat enough.
You should get variety in your diet.
But try not to stress too much.
In the end, you have to trust the process or this can be a really miserable journey.5 -
And the congreation says"amen". Op, I understand what it feels like to be afraid to eat. I am what I call "fatarexic" I have extreme anxiety about weight regain. I am afraid to eat sometimes. I have to tell myself, that some bf is a good thing. I have read about people regaining 10-12lbs a month! Scares the kitten out of me. I am currently trying to wrap my head around the fact that as long as you control your intake and have a good output, that weight regain can be slowed. Example, I am currently "lean" bulking. I have been doing it for around 6 months. Now my weights jump around, but my trends are only up about 2.4lbs. I am on a, well I hate to call it this kitten, but a journey. Mine is just a little farther down the road than yours. I hope to be able to control myself. Just wanted to let you know, you are not alone. There is a whole forum of us.
Thanks! It's only been a little over a month so I guess I am expecting too much. Seems like I lost a lot quicker and then hit a stonewall. Thanks again for the kind words. Hopefully, I can get to where you are at as well.That's what I was afraid of- all the talk about "you're eating more than you think" was NOT good for you right now. Please don't think this way. Get that food scale, if for no other reason that you can know for sure where you are at and don't create undue stress on yourself. But don't obsess, and if you sense you are becoming obsessive, don't hesitate to reach out for help. This process takes a lifetime (including maintenance). Extreme measures are a mistake.
That..helped a lot. No sarcasm. I appreciate all the input I got. Then I got several who may not have read the thread and suddenly the fact I didn't weigh one meal I usually have daily made me feel like this whole time I was eating way over my limit and it didn't seem possible but what do I know?
Thanks again. Maybe this is all overreacting and in a couple of weeks I finally get below 170 and it doesn't move as much/
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awesometin wrote: »It's probably been said already (didn't bother reading the entire thread) but, if you are gaining weight, you are NOT in a calorie deficit.
You just need to accept CICO to understand that and the solution is simply to eat less and/or exercise more.
So below 1500 (some days just drink 3 shakes and it's about 500 calories) but still not in a calorie deficit? Hmm ok.
Please don’t actually only consume 500 calories a day. On any day.4 -
awesometin wrote: »Can this thread be locked? I got plenty of help already.
You can flag/report and request that it be locked.0 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »OP, what premade shakes are you drinking that are 100 and 160 calories? I know premier protein is around 160, but you said you drink slimfast and I know those are usually a lot more than 100 calories!
Just a thought - are any of those canned shakes showing they contain more than one serving?0 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »OP, what premade shakes are you drinking that are 100 and 160 calories? I know premier protein is around 160, but you said you drink slimfast and I know those are usually a lot more than 100 calories!
Just a thought - are any of those canned shakes showing they contain more than one serving?
One shake is one serving. Not a can though. It's 11oz0 -
OP, didn't you mention the digital scale is reading you heavier compared to your other scale? Is the 169 weight on the digital or other scale? I can say from experience, my digital scale weighed me 14# heavier than my other scale.
I can't remember what the other type of scale is called, sorry. Analog? Spring? Old people problems!1 -
stanmann571 wrote: »awesometin wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »awesometin wrote: »
1. Are you weighing everything you eat?
2. How long have you been at this?
3.Just pick one scale and use/trust it.
1. Yes. I usually like shakes for this reason because I use the scanner. But even for rice and chicken, I measure it. There is no way I am somehow mismeasuring what I eat by about 800 calories if by the time it is lunch time I have only consumed about 300 for the day. Half a cup of rice usually, 8oz chicken, one serving size of black beans.
So NO, you're not weighing anything.
3. Started April 24, 2018 till now.
And it's been less than 1 month.
Trust the process, give the process time to work.3. I should try that I guess. I started with analog. GF suggested a digital but that one just depressed me lol
The number doesn't matter, the trend matters. As long as the scale is consistently showing the same reading from measurement to measurement then just pick one and go.
OTOH, if you step on 3 times and get 3 different numbers that are more than about 1% different, then you've got a scale problem.
Okay please elaborate then on weighing food. I am measuring it so I make sure I am not overeating. What else should I be doing? I know it's well over my calorie salary for the day. I hardly even eat up to it unless weekends.
Food scale, Walmart/target/amazon $10, weigh everything.
Just for funsies, compare what the package says a 1/2 cup weighs, and what your measured half cup weighs.
I was so surprised when I bought a scale and tried this. I was eating probably 25-30% more calories than I thought I was.0 -
OP, didn't you mention the digital scale is reading you heavier compared to your other scale? Is the 169 weight on the digital or other scale? I can say from experience, my digital scale weighed me 14# heavier than my other scale.
I can't remember what the other type of scale is called, sorry. Analog? Spring? Old people problems!
Good point. I got a new digital scale several months into the weight loss process and it read 12 lbs higher than the old one. Which one was correct? Didn't matter, because it didn't change the fact that I had lost 30 lbs (though admittedly a bummer mentally). All that matters is the trend over time on one scale.1
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