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Food Supply & Human Future
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L1zardQueen wrote: »
Lol.. yep.. but I meant bugs like crickets, ants, etc
I saw a can of chocolate coated ants once *shudder*
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L1zardQueen wrote: »
I hear crabs are the devil.1 -
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slimgirljo15 wrote: »
Is that why so many people are trying to avoid them nowadays?1 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »slimgirljo15 wrote: »
Is that why so many people are trying to avoid them nowadays?
I guess..
They might be tasty though.
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slimgirljo15 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »slimgirljo15 wrote: »
Is that why so many people are trying to avoid them nowadays?
I guess..
They might be tasty though.
Why is he smiling? Ouch2 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »slimgirljo15 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »slimgirljo15 wrote: »
Is that why so many people are trying to avoid them nowadays?
I guess..
They might be tasty though.
Why is he smiling? Ouch
Alcohol?8 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »I'm dead, cause I'm not eating bugs
I can tell by your statement that you have never been to Oaxaca and had Chapulines (grasshoppers cooked on a comal with chile seasonings). Chapuline tacos are to die for!! And a great source of lean protein to boot.
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Motorsheen wrote: »SurfyPantsAgainAgain wrote: »L1zardQueen wrote: »Insects are the answer.
I don't know if they are the answer but they will definitely be a part of our diet. They already are in some countries. Water is the resource we ought to be concerned about. This resource is priceless and vital to our food supplies.
If we run outta water.... I'm not worried; I'll just drink Lemonade.
No Gatorade, it's full of electrolytes!
No, Brawndo
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snickerscharlie wrote: »...Animals are a renewable food source. They reproduce. They also provide renewable food sources on their own, such as chickens/eggs.
I don't see any moral superiority or documented health improvements from a vegan/vegetarian diet. I don't see anything wrong with it if that's what somebody chooses, but "morality" in this sense is a subjective individual decision. Any diet is as "healthy" or "unhealthy" as somebody chooses to make it.
LOL. Animals eat plants, though. Don't you have to feed the animals before you can eat them? It takes a lot of plants to convert energy into animals. You could cut out the middle-man (animals) and just eat the plants yourself for better efficiency. (I'm not a vegetarian, I'm just sayin...in this hypothetical future, if there aren't enough plants to feed the people, why would there be enough plants to feed the animals to feed the people?)
Don't free-range chickens eat grass, bugs and worms? They can have it. All of it.
Even free range chickens' diets are generally supplemented with chicken feed, at least those that are raised for egg production. Without supplementation, egg production declines. You also get scrawnier chickens. Takes quite a bit of "range," depending on the local environment, for chickens to forage on wild vegetation and bugs alone. Chickens can be totally free range, though. They just need plenty of space if they are competing with other chickens. It would take several tens of billions of chickens to support the diets of 10+ billion meat-loving humans. Free ranging that many would be...a challenge? Rats might be a better choice, but you'd still need to feed them.
(The typical hen needs about 4 pounds of chicken feed to produce 12 eggs. Wild fowl don't produce as many as domesticated because nature isn't that easy.
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I just thought: can you imagine the population explosion if every family was like the Duggars and every couple produced dozens of offspring? Yikes! It wouldn't take long before we were *kittens to elbows up in here! Imagine feeding that!
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snickerscharlie wrote: »...Animals are a renewable food source. They reproduce. They also provide renewable food sources on their own, such as chickens/eggs.
I don't see any moral superiority or documented health improvements from a vegan/vegetarian diet. I don't see anything wrong with it if that's what somebody chooses, but "morality" in this sense is a subjective individual decision. Any diet is as "healthy" or "unhealthy" as somebody chooses to make it.
LOL. Animals eat plants, though. Don't you have to feed the animals before you can eat them? It takes a lot of plants to convert energy into animals. You could cut out the middle-man (animals) and just eat the plants yourself for better efficiency. (I'm not a vegetarian, I'm just sayin...in this hypothetical future, if there aren't enough plants to feed the people, why would there be enough plants to feed the animals to feed the people?)
Don't free-range chickens eat grass, bugs and worms? They can have it. All of it.
Yes, but it requires much more land to free-range a chicken than it does to grow soy and corn to feed it while you restrict its movement to a space barely larger than it's own body, because each square foot of pastureland contains far fewer usable calories for the chicken than a square foot of land growing feed crops. Chickens, cattle, goats, and pigs raised free range are great for times and places when the land, topography, and rainfall isn't conducive to intensive farming, or during pre-industrial periods if labor isn't available for intensive farming of available land, or in cultures that haven't developed the growing of crops.1 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »I'm dead, cause I'm not eating bugs
I can tell by your statement that you have never been to Oaxaca and had Chapulines (grasshoppers cooked on a comal with chile seasonings). Chapuline tacos are to die for!! And a great source of lean protein to boot.
Uhh sounds delicious, but I'll pass 2 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »I'm dead, cause I'm not eating bugs
I can tell by your statement that you have never been to Oaxaca and had Chapulines (grasshoppers cooked on a comal with chile seasonings). Chapuline tacos are to die for!! And a great source of lean protein to boot.
I've had roasted crickets with lime and salt. Not bad, but somehow didn't make the cut as part of my everyday diet.2 -
I have had escargot. Not bad either.2
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L1zardQueen wrote: »I have had escargot. Not bad either.
I actually like escargot, and I'm the world's pickiest eater. Seriously, there's all kinds of things I wont eat because of texture or taste, or even smell, or because I know what it's made from even if I like the taste, but I'll eat snails.
Sometimes my life doesnt make any sense.2 -
As far as population goes, I think the tipping point for natural correction will be unstoppable pandemics when the density becomes too great to isolate healthy people from sick.
If you include all sources of nourishment and advances in food production technology, we can provide basic nutrition for whatever number the population grows to before it implodes from sheer numbers.0
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