Why is this making me so sad?
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It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour , so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
Hey! Don't draw the guys into this as I'm pretty sure most of us view "slut" as a term of endearment. Okay, let's take a vote? Bros? You like sluts or no like sluts?
ETA: Yea, I know that was a convoluted interpretation of what you wrote, but I"m going with it. "Cause, you know . . . I just am. :bigsmile:0 -
Oh, I missed the part where you were appointed to decide for all women what they should prefer.It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
I am confused. When did I say all women should prefer something? I use phrases such as 'to me', ' I think' and the first person pronoun for a reason: I am talking about what I think. Sometimes mfp completely bemuses me.0 -
It was your inspiration. Totally get it.I was carrying around a business card that had a picture of 3 sluts putting tattoos on one another. It was a business card for a tattoo shop and so in order to show all the tattoos all the 3 sluts were scantily clad in spaghetti strap tanks and booty shorts. They were all simultaneously tattooing one another and resembled very closely my avatar but with less clothing and slutty, snobby expressions and tattoos.
Well i left it in the pocket of my jeans as I had the habit of pulling it out to look at occasionally especially when contemplating eating something off limits and then putting it back. Unfortunately I just found pieces of it in the wash. I ruined it when I forgot it in my jeans and washed it. I'm sad. Not even joking. Seriously sad about this. :brokenheart:
I don't get it?
Feelings are so weird?
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Agreed with this part. But "slut" is not a negative label, it just denotes one who is on one end of the spectrum. And it also applies to men.It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women.
I suspect I am just older than you and from a different place. No one I choose to spend time with would use the word 'slut' in their daily language and neither would I. There is not one set way of interpreting each word in a language and if you live in a world where it is used in a certain way and I hardly ever hear it, then our reactions will be different.
I'm also not buying into a sexual 'spectrum'.0 -
Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.
^^^THIS^^^
The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?
You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?
Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.0 -
You look at pictures of "sluts" for thinspiration?
sounds healthy to me.0 -
Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!0
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It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.0 -
It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.
I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .0 -
I believe that poor spelling is the real downfall of this nation.Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!0 -
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With Nutella? Or like a Fluffernutter? Either or is fine with me.
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Oh, I LOVE nutella!! What is Fluffernutter? *drooling*0 -
And sluts. Don't forget sluts are the downfall, too.
I believe that poor spelling is the real downfall of this nation.Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!0 -
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This literally made me laugh out loud0 -
Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.
^^^THIS^^^
The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?
You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?
Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.
Update: Slut is not a derogatory term, especially when not used as a derogatory term as the OP in no way did. Nothing wrong with being a slut.0 -
It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.
I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.0 -
Oh, I LOVE nutella!! What is Fluffernutter? *drooling*
I could show you, rather than tell you0 -
Oh, I LOVE nutella!! What is Fluffernutter? *drooling*
I could show you, rather than tell you
Slut!0 -
It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.
I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.
Slip the guy a 20, he won't complain. Trust me.0 -
They look like 95.8% of all chicks in El Paso.
:smokin: :devil:
*packing my bags!*0 -
Oh, I LOVE nutella!! What is Fluffernutter? *drooling*
I could show you, rather than tell you
Slut!
I'm a man, dammit!!!
We prefer to be called "dogs"0 -
Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.
^^^THIS^^^
The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?
You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?
Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.
Update: Slut is not a derogatory term, especially when not used as a derogatory term as the OP in no way did. Nothing wrong with being a slut.
What a load of crap. It is totally a derogatory term whether it was intended or not. This is not 'taking it back' this is making it acceptable for other people to say it and demoralize people based upon first impressions.
I don't accept that it is ok for some and not for others. Same follows through with bi**ch and other terms.
If you can't say it to everyone of any gender, race, creed, orientation, etc without offence, then it's offensive. Simple.
And why was she calling them sluts in the first place? Because of how they are dressed? How is it a good term? Explain how it was a positive statement if it was in respect how they were presented for an advertisement.
It was a label based upon how they were dressed and posed. A label that is synonymous with 'loose morals' and sexual deviance that is deemed as a negative attribute by the general public - not something you'd want your daughter called or being seen as.
So no, it wasn't ok. It's not ok. And I'm pretty f'n liberal in my opinions.0 -
It's sad that apparently there are still people who think women are not supposed to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it and therefore think "slut" must be an insult.
Erm... I think this is a bit *kitten* over tit. To me, there is no need for use of derogatory terms like 'slut' exactly because it should be normal for women 'to like sex, or enjoy it, or think about it, or have a lot of it'. There is no need for an extra term. I didn't need to be termed a 'slut' when I chose not to be monogamous, and I'm not suddenly better or worse in some way now that I am. I was a woman then and now.
It's called 'taking it back'. You work to remove the negative connotation so that idiots who would use it for ill, not longer have any power to do so.
Personally I'd rather prefer an acceptance that women have the same range of desires as men, and men don't need a negative label for such behaviour, so why should women. And in the case in point, the appearance of the women is causing an assumption about their behaviour, which is also gender specific. Reclaiming a term only works if you happen to think you're somehow different from the norm in your behaviour, and being a sexual being is the norm.
Sorry if logic a bit jumpy. Need bed.
I've heard and referred to many of my male friends as sluts. It's not gender specific. I find it interesting that you do see it that way.
I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.
Slip the guy a 20, he won't complain. Trust me.
Personally, I think the person doing more of the work should get slipped the 20. Fair's fair.0 -
I believe that poor spelling is the real downfall of this nation.Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!
I blame CO2. Or attorneys.0 -
Oh, I LOVE nutella!! What is Fluffernutter? *drooling*
I could show you, rather than tell you
Slut!
I'm a man, dammit!!!
We prefer to be called "dogs"
Dog doesn't sounds as dirty, naughty or filthy0 -
I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.
how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.0 -
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.
Slip the guy a 20, he won't complain. Trust me.
Personally, I think the person doing more of the work should get slipped the 20. Fair's fair.
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Maybe its 2 countries divided by a common language, but I wish you wouldnt refer to other women as sluts.Doesnt matter if theyre scantily clad or models or in the glamour industry theyre not sluts, theyre just people.
^^^THIS^^^
The term slut really bugs the F**K out of me. You don't know these women, so how you can you just arbitrarily call them sluts? I mean I know what the image implies...sexually strong and independent women who will do what and who they wish, but slut?
You already described what they were doing, and how they were dressed, was it really necessary to then to call them a derogatory name? Especially if they are what inspire you to stay on track?
Maybe it shouldn't rile me, but it does.
What if they are all really sluts, then what? Also its people like youthat give power to such a name your so up in arms over 4 letters its almost sad. I wonder exactly how you react to the word *****. The word in itself is a term to describe a female dog, however people like you who view such a word as negative make it exactly that, its like how Gay used to be used it used to mean happy, then being called it was offensive, now being called gay means you prefer men. Exhausting.0 -
Creativity is a bad thing?Some offer help ,some look for agurments. This is truely why we as a nation our going down in a flam of troubles .wake up people !!!!0 -
Also, the same people who argue, "If you don't have anything nice to say....<yadda yadda>" appear to be forgetting the "Sticks and stones" one.
I mean, if you choose to give some imaginary power to words, then the internet is a scary place for you to hang out. Because:
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I'm pretty sure that "man *kitten*" is the appropriate term . . .
I've used both but I think slut is more correct since the word *kitten* denotes an exchange of services for money. Most of the time, there is no money exchanged.
how convenient of you to completely ignore the $60 I've paid for drinks at the bar.
IN for free drinks!
I like my gin martini's dirty. Or errr is that a bad deragotory word? I like my Gin Martini's with a splash of Olive Juice.0
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