Diet sodas
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diannethegeek wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »I'd be more concerned about the hydrogen hydroxide in diet sodas. It's a powerful solvent that is used in manufacturing to cut metals, and is found as a component of rocket exhaust. Doesn't sound like something you want to be drinking!
Hmm, I just looked at my Diet Coke and the ingredients are as follows:
INGREDIENTS
CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, ASPARTAME, PHOSPHORIC ACID, POTASSIUM BENZOATE (TO PROTECT TASTE), NATURAL FLAVORS, CITRIC ACID, CAFFEINE.
No hydrogen hydroxide...
I could be wrong, but I get the sense there should be a sarcasm tag at the end of the post you're quoting.
(It's the main ingredient.)5 -
Diet Coke, and Cherry Zero Coke are my go to not all of the time. But when the fake hungry hits they keep me in line. And the weight keeps rolling off.4
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Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.0 -
Soda makes me feel bloated, I prefer chrystal light0
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I only drink sparkling water. Kinda like soda, but nothing in it but carbonated water. I'm allergic to artificial sweeteners and not much into sugary sodas anyway.2
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Hello guys,
I wanted to know your experience with diet sodas. I know it is zero calories but does it hinder your weight loss when drinking it daily?
My experience with diet sodas is that I didnt ever drink them until I started trying to lose weight.
one of the first things I did to reduce my calories was switch from regular to diet version.
Did not hinder my weight loss - I lost the amount predicted by MFP calculator and met my goal in 10 months
admittedly i do not drink it daily, but only about 2 or 3 times per week. - not because of any weight loss concerns, but just because I dont.
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Hello guys,
I wanted to know your experience with diet sodas. I know it is zero calories but does it hinder your weight loss when drinking it daily?
I don't have a soda drinking habit - diet nor regular.
As they have zero calories, there wouldn't be any increase in caloric intake by using them, therefore no negative effect on your weight loss experience.2 -
It doesn't hinder but I found that it just made me want more sugary drinks anyway and artificial sweeteners in it gave me a tummy ache all the time and made me dehydrated. I found it much better to drink lower sugar drinks ( those that are sparkling water and juice) and I drink mainly fizzy water. After I got over the loss of caffeine and sugar this lowered my heart rate.3
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SoleilxStitch wrote: »It doesn't hinder but I found that it just made me want more sugary drinks anyway and artificial sweeteners in it gave me a tummy ache all the time and made me dehydrated. I found it much better to drink lower sugar drinks ( those that are sparkling water and juice) and I drink mainly fizzy water. After I got over the loss of caffeine and sugar this lowered my heart rate.
Id love to know how a drink that is 99.4 % water can dehydrate you.
Hint it doesnt.15 -
I'd be more concerned about the hydrogen hydroxide in diet sodas. It's a powerful solvent that is used in manufacturing to cut metals, and is found as a component of rocket exhaust. Doesn't sound like something you want to be drinking!
And apples contain cyanide so you should stay far away from them!7 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »SoleilxStitch wrote: »It doesn't hinder but I found that it just made me want more sugary drinks anyway and artificial sweeteners in it gave me a tummy ache all the time and made me dehydrated. I found it much better to drink lower sugar drinks ( those that are sparkling water and juice) and I drink mainly fizzy water. After I got over the loss of caffeine and sugar this lowered my heart rate.
Id love to know how a drink that is 99.4 % water can dehydrate you.
Hint it doesnt.
I agree with you that soda shouldn’t dehydrate you but your reasoning is pretty flawed. Intravenous Lasix is also 99% water but it sure as hell can dehydrate you!1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »I'd be more concerned about the hydrogen hydroxide in diet sodas. It's a powerful solvent that is used in manufacturing to cut metals, and is found as a component of rocket exhaust. Doesn't sound like something you want to be drinking!
Hmm, I just looked at my Diet Coke and the ingredients are as follows:
INGREDIENTS
CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, ASPARTAME, PHOSPHORIC ACID, POTASSIUM BENZOATE (TO PROTECT TASTE), NATURAL FLAVORS, CITRIC ACID, CAFFEINE.
No hydrogen hydroxide...
Wouldn't hydrogen hydroxide be 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom? What else do we know that has a chemical composition of H2O?
I googled it as I was going to make a snark about the typo, but yeah it is actually something.
It's water reacting as a base so it might actually be harmful.
http://wiki.c2.com/?HydrogenHydroxide
But I'm an accountant so I may be mis-understanding things.
Not everything acting as a base is harmful.
Consider this, if you mix water with some vinegar, the water will act as a base in response to the vinegar.
In the same way as water will act as an acid in response to salt being diluted into it.
Water is a special case as it can act as both an acid and a base at the same time (thanks to the presence of H+ and OH-) Pure water is always pH 7, and so will always change its properties depending on the situation.
(For more reading: https://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/introduction-to-chemistry-general-organic-and-biological/s13-03-water-both-an-acid-and-a-base.html)5 -
AmberSpamber wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »AmberSpamber wrote: »I stay away from anything with aspartame in it. After doing research, I found enough to know that even though it is 0 calories, I wouldn't be putting it into my body. Its a personal choice and I know not everyone agrees, but I stay far away from it.
http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html
That's an... interesting website to use as proof of anything.
A quick google search on the author turns up some equally interesting results:
http://fakedoctorate.blogspot.com/2014/11/janet-starr-hull-phd-fraud.html
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/11/782-janet-starr-hull.html
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/aspartame-truth-vs-fiction/
haha.. I know.. It's horrible. I should have chosen a more credible link, but alas billing at work couldn't wait much longer. I did my research years ago. Like I said, I know not everyone agrees, but I feel better when I am not putting anything synthetic in my body. Thanks for the fun links. I am going to check out the "quackery" later.
What would you consider a credible link on the subject?4 -
TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.0 -
I love all the woo. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it ain't probable.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/97/3/517/4571511
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.W7ZAzGhJG5p19 -
MelmothWanders wrote: »I love all the woo. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it ain't probable.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/97/3/517/4571511
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.W7ZAzGhJG5p
The first two are based on correlation and the third is a mouse study that has not been replicated in humans...13 -
MelmothWanders wrote: »I love all the woo. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it ain't probable.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/97/3/517/4571511
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0346#.W7ZAzGhJG5p
The definition of "probable" is "likely to be the case." Is a mouse study really what you want to base that on?7 -
The first two are based on correlation and the third is a mouse study that has not been replicated in humans...
I flat out acknowledged that it wasn't causal evidence in my first post. I also acknowledged that a mouse study is not direct evidence of a similar effect in humans.
A wealth of studies have highlighted evidence of correlation between artificial sweeteners and obesity, along with a variety of proposed mechanisms to explain why. To claim that any one mechanism, or combination of mechanisms, is the culprit, would be foolish given the evidence. To suggest that it is probable that there is a causal link which has yet to be proven, be it psychological, related to enzymes or microbiomic activity, etc, is a different story.20 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »SoleilxStitch wrote: »It doesn't hinder but I found that it just made me want more sugary drinks anyway and artificial sweeteners in it gave me a tummy ache all the time and made me dehydrated. I found it much better to drink lower sugar drinks ( those that are sparkling water and juice) and I drink mainly fizzy water. After I got over the loss of caffeine and sugar this lowered my heart rate.
Id love to know how a drink that is 99.4 % water can dehydrate you.
Hint it doesnt.
I agree with you that soda shouldn’t dehydrate you but your reasoning is pretty flawed. Intravenous Lasix is also 99% water but it sure as hell can dehydrate you!
Not a drink.
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Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »SoleilxStitch wrote: »It doesn't hinder but I found that it just made me want more sugary drinks anyway and artificial sweeteners in it gave me a tummy ache all the time and made me dehydrated. I found it much better to drink lower sugar drinks ( those that are sparkling water and juice) and I drink mainly fizzy water. After I got over the loss of caffeine and sugar this lowered my heart rate.
Id love to know how a drink that is 99.4 % water can dehydrate you.
Hint it doesnt.
I agree with you that soda shouldn’t dehydrate you but your reasoning is pretty flawed. Intravenous Lasix is also 99% water but it sure as hell can dehydrate you!
Not a drink.
And also a powerful diuretic...1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.
Oh no the Stevia one is AWFUL. We have it here too, it's weird. They're phasing out Coke Zero here and replacing it with Coke No Sugar.0 -
TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.
Oh no the Stevia one is AWFUL. We have it here too, it's weird. They're phasing out Coke Zero here and replacing it with Coke No Sugar.
My protein powder is Stevia based, so I may already be used to it.
I should pick up a can to try.0 -
TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.
Oh no the Stevia one is AWFUL. We have it here too, it's weird. They're phasing out Coke Zero here and replacing it with Coke No Sugar.
Stevia always tastes sickly sweet to me. Lots of companies seem to be steering toward it, though, because 'natural'0 -
TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.
Oh no the Stevia one is AWFUL. We have it here too, it's weird. They're phasing out Coke Zero here and replacing it with Coke No Sugar.
Stevia always tastes sickly sweet to me. Lots of companies seem to be steering toward it, though, because 'natural'
I find it really bitter with a funny aftertaste. I will not knowingly buy anything with stevia in it.3 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
If you somehow get it into your head that it doesn't just cancel out the calories of the sugary pop you might have otherwise had, but also the accompanying food. (Or if you figure that the 260-odd calories saved by having diet soda instead of regular means you can spend those calories on extra fries or onion rings or what have you... but those give you an extra 400 calories so you end up ingesting more than you otherwise would have.)
Now that I'm more aware of my calories, that doesn't happen to me. But it used to.3 -
TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I find I spend a lot more money with Coke Zero than I ever did on Diet Coke.
Diet Coke was on sale, 20 cans for $1 more than 12 of Coke Zero so I bought Diet Coke.
I really have trouble telling the difference between the two.
You have Coke No Sugar yet? We have it in NZ and honestly, it tastes EXACTLY like full sugar coke but zero calories.
Have not seen it, but I'm Canadian and we get some stuff late. I know there is a green can sweetened with Stevia. Have not tried it yet.
Hmmm. Google found this
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/coke-zero-sugar-taste-difference_us_597f71d7e4b00bb8ff3875d9
which would suggest I've been drinking Coke Zero Sugar in Canada and just never noticed the change.
But as I said, I can't tell the difference between the 2 or 3 of them.
Oh no the Stevia one is AWFUL. We have it here too, it's weird. They're phasing out Coke Zero here and replacing it with Coke No Sugar.
Stevia always tastes sickly sweet to me. Lots of companies seem to be steering toward it, though, because 'natural'
I find it really bitter with a funny aftertaste. I will not knowingly buy anything with stevia in it.
Same!
Friend once tried to trick me because she couldn't believe that anyone would consider stevia bitter. She baked a cake using stevia and served it to me. I almost spewed right then and there. It was horrible. No chocolate cake should have to suffer such indignity!0 -
I do not think I could ever lose weight without diet soda. Sometimes I just NEED a flavor or something in between meals to keep from snacking. If I'm at a social event where there is a lot of high fat foods, I reach for diet soda. When I'm at the movies, I reach for the diet soda. For me, its a saving grace. I have never had adverse effects such as cravings or increased hunger. If anything, it does the opposite for me. Plus, there are so many flavors of diet soda now, and most don't have a weird aftertaste at all! Especially diet root beer. For some reason, that tastes just like the real thing.
There are no calories, carbs, or fat. It fits perfectly into my plan!6 -
I stick with unsweetened iced tea and seltzer/water. An occasional diet soda is ok, but I am allergic to aspartame, which makes it easy to avoid.
.... except Kutztown diet birch. Really like it.0 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »
If you somehow get it into your head that it doesn't just cancel out the calories of the sugary pop you might have otherwise had, but also the accompanying food. (Or if you figure that the 260-odd calories saved by having diet soda instead of regular means you can spend those calories on extra fries or onion rings or what have you... but those give you an extra 400 calories so you end up ingesting more than you otherwise would have.)
Now that I'm more aware of my calories, that doesn't happen to me. But it used to.
But that's not inherently the diet soda...4
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