November 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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11-1 Rest
11-2 7k intervals
11-3 7k easy
Easy run today in the cold and the rain, but not enough rain for me to qualify for bad-*kitten* status.
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@PastorVincent I hope you get your run in and are able to get through your sermon tomorrow. It is heartbreaking what people do to each other.
I'll just add my 2 cents to the TMI discussion. Men shouldn't be squeamish about "women stuff" but some are and I think many women are raised not to discuss that stuff in front of men so it may be that the women are just as uncomfortable talking about it to men as the men are. My sisters and I were having a discussion recently about whether you should hide feminine products in your bathroom so the men in your family don't see them. I thought they meant used products, but no, a couple of my sisters actually hide the boxes so their husbands and sons don't have to see them. I keep a basket on the back of the toilet with an extra roll or two of toilet paper and a handful of feminine products in it. It never occured to me to worry about whether my husband or son or any other male who uses that bathroom would see them.
Well put. A lot of women (and some men, but largely women) are raised not to make waves in the world, to always think about others' needs and wants before thinking about themselves, and I think that this whole TMI thing is an extension of that (plus the idea that women's bodies are inherently "dirty"). It's certainly good for *everyone* to think about others, but we need to take care of ourselves, too. Being a caretaker of any kind is hard work and takes its toll. That can be parenting, or nursing, or caring for an elderly relative, or ministering. Like you said, @PastorVincent, you MUST make the time for that run, or whatever it is you need to do to take care of yourself, or else one day you just won't have anything left to give.
@biketheworld: *hugs* You in your 20s was right! No matter what you do, time is going to pass. It doesn't matter what you did yesterday - you can always make the decision to do something differently today. Losing weight is a slow, boring process, but it can be done! Make a plan and if that plan doesn't work, make another plan. Make changes that you can live with forever, and that means you get to eat cookies sometimes. What I said earlier in the thread applies here too: you can't expect different results unless you change things. Don't just aspire to change, make a plan! Set goals, and make them easy, concrete, measurable goals. And if you aren't meeting those goals, make different goals.
Second, don't get down on what you've already done - regular exercise is hugely important for your health, and is a hard habit to build. You are NOT kidding yourself. If it was easy, everyone would do it. You could be active and fat or you could be sedentary and fat. I've been the latter and now I'm the former and I'm going to do everything I can not to go back to the way I was before. And I'm not just doing that for tomorrow me, I'm doing it for me right now.
Finally, you shovel food in your mouth because your body needs food to function, and because your brain rewards you for doing things that it needs to survive. Food is a joy and a blessing and the fact that the portion of humanity that starves to death has dramatically decreased over the last few decades might be the greatest achievement of modern time. I genuinely hate seeing people talk about food as garbage or an addiction or anything like that. Yes, a lot of us could do with more veggies and fewer calories, but you don't have to deprive yourself of one of life's most basic pleasures in order to do that.
Sorry for the lecture, I'm feeling a little salty this morning. *hugs*13 -
I'd like to join if it isn't too late! I'm starting a 20 week training program for my first ever half marathon this month! I've only ever done a 5K, so I'm excited to see how this will go (am I being too ambitious?)
My goal for November is 34 miles
11/1: 1.5 miles
11/2: rest
Total: 1.5 miles
I don’t think it is too ambitious at all. Five months is a decent amount of time to build up for a half.
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As I figured, my running in October was pretty much nil. In addition to the wedding that I went to last weekend, my dad was in the hospital for a week - finally getting a pacemaker/defibrillator implanted. So, it's been rough both on the exercise and eating side of things. However, today is a new day. I am going to sign up for the Pioneer 5 miler on Dec 15th, at Davy Crockett's Birthplace. So, my schedule for this month will reflect getting ready for that. I am only going to count my run/walks this month - not my cross training or just walking days. So, my goal for November is 25 miles. Surely to goodness I can do that!
I've skimmed over the first 10 pages of comments for the month. You guys are doing great and I'm cracking up over the conversations about feminine products. It reminds me of a time when I was at a friends house, watching TV, and a commercial came on about maxi pads. Their young son, about 9 years old, turns and asks me how they feel when you are wearing them. I panicked and glanced at his parents. They said, "We want our kids to feel free to discuss these things," so I answered him - a little bit embarrassed to discuss such things with a young boy. But, I'm glad they weren't making it a mystery or something to be hidden or embarrassed about. He has probably grown up to be a very thoughtful husband.
@biketheworld I hope you can find it within yourself to make the decision to be a healthier, happier you. I know it is hard! I've been there. I think my turnaround was when I decided that I wasn't going to "diet" anymore. I eat basically what I want, just not as much and don't eat the "junk" food as often, but I haven't banned any food from my diet. Anyway, good luck.
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November Goal: 100 mi
11/2 6.0 mi 10.44 pace
11/3 6.0 mi 10.33 pace
TOTAL 12 mi
Happy Saturday, folks.
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I don't know if any of yo saw this but it is a great article!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/sunday-review/allie-kieffer-weight-marathons-body.html?fbclid=IwAR1vGYcKTiYglA7T3NGmwllMVtJfqYBB7kSQVlpZlGb7ERX1s9bxNgTlZLQ
Wow, that is a great article, and very much on point! This part really spoke to me: "if we decide that the only people who have the potential to succeed are the ones who meet our idea of what successful looks like — when they’re gifted children of 12 or high achieving 20-year-olds — and only invest in them, we’ll prove ourselves right."3 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »@biketheworld: *hugs* You in your 20s was right! No matter what you do, time is going to pass. It doesn't matter what you did yesterday - you can always make the decision to do something differently today. Losing weight is a slow, boring process, but it can be done! Make a plan and if that plan doesn't work, make another plan. Make changes that you can live with forever, and that means you get to eat cookies sometimes. What I said earlier in the thread applies here too: you can't expect different results unless you change things. Don't just aspire to change, make a plan! Set goals, and make them easy, concrete, measurable goals. And if you aren't meeting those goals, make different goals.
Second, don't get down on what you've already done - regular exercise is hugely important for your health, and is a hard habit to build. You are NOT kidding yourself. If it was easy, everyone would do it. You could be active and fat or you could be sedentary and fat. I've been the latter and now I'm the former and I'm going to do everything I can not to go back to the way I was before. And I'm not just doing that for tomorrow me, I'm doing it for me right now.
Finally, you shovel food in your mouth because your body needs food to function, and because your brain rewards you for doing things that it needs to survive. Food is a joy and a blessing and the fact that the portion of humanity that starves to death has dramatically decreased over the last few decades might be the greatest achievement of modern time. I genuinely hate seeing people talk about food as garbage or an addiction or anything like that. Yes, a lot of us could do with more veggies and less calories, but you don't have to deprive yourself of one of life's most basic pleasures in order to do that.
Sorry for the lecture, I'm feeling a little salty this morning. *hugs*
I was also going to say try taking things in small chunks. Instead of saying I have a goal to lose 25, 50, 100 lbs or whatever which can seem overwhelming, try focusing on small daily, weekly, monthly goals... today I am going to eat these things (planned out) or this week I am going to measure out my portions and log my calories. Overtime these small steps will become habits for your tomorrow self!
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Got meet my MFP Running Challenge buddy for last 3-4 years @shanaber! West coast meets East Coast! We couldn't run together but we had an awesome time! Thanks @shanaber!
And here we are!
I had a windy ride today - 44 miles - about 30 of it with a head wind. I kept thinking ... WHY DIDN'T I RUN TODAY!?
11/1 - 4 miles
11/2 - rest day
11/3 - 44 miles cycling
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1102-5.7k total-5.7k, goal-100k
Dreadmill last night, PT today. Recently my trainer has begun to think that my hip flexors are working well enough and we've started working on the toe-off.
Running mechanics are so funky.
Upcoming races:
20181118 Shanghai Marathon (maybe)8 -
@biketheworld i love your honesty in the monthly question.
It so easy to come here (or anywhere) and put on a show at how successful our running and food health is. Maybe it is easier for certain personalities, but i believe most of us struggle with food, exercise, cookies and my worst flaw- flat out laziness. I just dont care and i dont want to care. I want the cookie, i want the fried chicken (today it was chicken fried steak), i want to sleep in, i want what i want with NO effort. Gods honest truth thar. I'm a lazy being. And making those changes against my core being? Nah. Its gonna be a fight. Some days i win, others i lose, physically mentally and emotionally.
But in that struggle comes character development and discipline. I'm givin the opportunity to grow and learn with each challenge, each small or large thing "i dont wanna" do is my chance to do better, be better and exemplify better. How i show myself I'm capable of better.
An overweight person that is active lowers their health risks to that of a "slim" person- according to a tv show i watched. That btw, I'm unsure of its scientific accuracy. But- even without the scientific stamp of approval, it is undoubtedly healthier than not being active and making even the slightest changes towards better life habits. That's a win.
Each choice we make and the action we put towards that self-care choice is an investment in ourselves no matter how small that ripple is. Its analogous to running. One step in all those miles you managed last month or last year, is still one tiny seemingly insignificant step. And it is in itself progress.
You're here. That's a holy *kitten* change choice. And if you (anyone) hangs in here (or anywhere they develop positive changes) long enough, that's a monumental step in self investment.
I'm gonna follow up this monthly question with another. i wanna know, i want you to think about what is healthy? What does healthy look like? A hint: You wont find it in the media.
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Got meet my MFP Running Challenge buddy for last 3-4 years @shanaber! West coast meets East Coast! We couldn't run together but we had an awesome time! Thanks @shanaber!
And here we are!
I had a windy ride today - 44 miles - about 30 of it with a head wind. I kept thinking ... WHY DIDN'T I RUN TODAY!?
11/1 - 4 miles
11/2 - rest day
11/3 - 44 miles cycling
I'm so jealous! I swear one day I'm going to win the lottery and all of us are moving to "Runners Island".11 -
November Running Totals (miles)
11/1 – 7.58 warmup, speed work, cool down
11/2 – rest day
11/3 – 12.08 paced run
November running total to date – 19.66
Nominal November mileage goal: 160 miles
Real Goals: Avoid injury. Run well in the Pete Glavin XC series. Have fun at the Syracuse Half and Race with Grace 10K. Build base toward the start of Boston training.
Today's notes – The weather this morning was not a surprise: 41º F (5º C), light rain, and WNW wind increasing from ~8 mph to ~13mph when I was running. The weather conditions were reminiscent of the start of the Boston Marathon.
Okay, there were a few differences. I only ran about a third of mile into the wind before the route turned. The rain didn't pick up like it did at Boston last April. There was no spectator support. But other than that, it could have been running from Hopkinton to Framingham or so.
There were no trainees for an 8:00 or 8:30 pace, but there was a substitute pacer. We set out together for the first 8 mile loop, and weren't super picky about staying on pace. I think he just followed me; I know he *can* run faster than me for long runs if he is in shape and feels like it. He dropped at 8 miles, and I was left with a 2 mile out, loop and back plus a 1 mile out and back.
I hate out and backs with no fixed out goal, so I added distance ad hoc to the loop. Ended up back at base at 11.77 miles, so there out and back to make 12 (of 11 scheduled) was manageable. And that seemed like enough, given that I was running in the rain and I have a race tomorrow. 15 had been in my mind, but today wasn't a day for 15 miles.
Rain and pictures don't normally go together for me, but the lake was just too pretty, and when my phone was out anyway I snapped a shot of a group of runners from a slower pace group chatting between their 8 mile loop and subsequent 2 mile section:
2018 races:
February 17, 2018 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 54:48
February 24, 2018 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:46
March 17, 2018 USATF Masters 8K (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 31:55
March 24, 2018 Spring Forward 15K (Mendon, NY) ran at MP, finished in 1:10:47
April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:28:43
April 29, 2018 USATF Masters 10K (James Joyce Ramble, Dedham, MA) finished in 41:33
May 20, 2018 Lilac 10K (Rochester, NY) finished in 42:21
May 26, 2018 Sunset House 5K (Rochester, NY) finished in 20:12
June 3, 2018 USATF Masters Half Marathon (Ann Arbor, MI) finished in 1:34:42
June 9, 2018 Ontario Summit Trail Half Marathon (Naples, NY) DNS - injury
June 17, 2018 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) short course, 18:04 for ~2.9 miles
June 30, 2018 Charlie's Old Goat Trail Run 5 mile (Victor, NY) 4.89 miles by Garmin, 43:15
July 14, 2018 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY) finished in 1:45:54
July 28, 2018 Battle at Bristol 10K (Naples, NY) survived in 1:28:33
August 1, 2018 IEXC 5K #1 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:17
August 8, 2018 IEXC 5K #2 (Rochester, NY) finished in 22:10
August 15, 2018 Pound the Ground 10K (Mendon, NY) finished in 43:11
August 22, 2018 IEXC 5K #3 (Rochester, NY) finished in 21:59
August 29, 2018 IEXC 5K #4 (Rochester NY) finished in 22:00
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 1 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 6:07
August 29, 2018 IEXC TDP 400m (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:14
September 2, 2018 Oak Tree Half Marathon (Geneseo, NY) finished in 1:36:41
September 9, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #1 5K (Newark, NY) 2.9 miles finished in 20:50.9
September 23, 2018 USATF Masters XC 5K (Buffalo, NY) finished in 20:03
September 30, 2018 Wineglass Marathon (Bath, NY to Corning, NY) finished in 3:18:02, PR with negative splits
October 7, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #2 6K (Akron Falls, NY) finished in 24:41
October 13, 2018 Finish Strong 15K (Hilton, NY) finished in 1:03:27
October 21, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #3 6K (Mendon, NY) finished in 24:17
November 4, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #4 6K (Trumansburg, NY)
November 11, 2018 Syracuse Half Marathon (Syracuse, NY)
November 18, 2018 Pete Glavin XC #5 8K (Syracuse, NY)
November 22, 2018 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
December 15, 2018 Freezeroo #1 (Don Curran Memorial 5K) (Gates, NY)
2019 Races:
January 1, 2019 Freezeroo #2 (Resolution Run 7.5 mile) (Mendon, NY)
January 5, 2019 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY)
January 12, 2019 Freezeroo #3 (Pineway Ponds 5 Mile) (Spencerport, NY)
January 26, 2019 Freezeroo #4 (Hearnish 5 mile) (Victory, NY)
February 9, 2019 Freezeroo #5 (Tom Brannon 8 mile) (Greece, NY)
February 23, 2019 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY)
April 15, 2019 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA to Boston, MA)
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Today’s run was cold, windy, and pouring rain. I did enjoy the run, but for some reason my heart rate was going a lot higher than it typically does on a run so I ended up walking to try and lower my heart rate a bit.
11/2: 4.1 miles
11/3: 3.3 miles
Cumulative for November: 7.4/50 miles
Upcoming race: Thursday 11/22 Feaster Five Thanksgiving Road Race: Approximately 5 miles6 -
@MobyCarp your schedule is making my head spin! I salute you.
@noblsheep I hear you on running mechanics. I have to remember to pay attention to form so I don't yank something, like a hamstring or hip flexor.
Still waking up, I went to a concert last night and had a blast, but then couldn't sleep until about 2 or so. Today I don't plan to run more than 3, because tomorrow will be a 7-8 mile run.
I am thinking more and more that we can't take our ability to run, swim, bike, whatever for granted.
A very close friend (okay, I consider him an uncle) has long been an inspiration to me and many others. I first met him when we joined the LA Leggers (Los Angeles Marathon training club) in 1999. The 2000 LA Marathon was his first official marathon - he had just turned 62. Between ages 62 and 72 he ran 22 marathons. He was always full of energy and always there for other people. I went through a very rough time in my life (career switch) back in 2001 and he was there for me, walking with me on Sundays when my running had gone to hell in a handbasket and I could no longer keep up with him. He would repeatedly say that he fully expected to live to 150 and would run a marathon at age 100.
Now he's 80 and in the advanced stage of Parkinson's (hospice). I still can't believe it is happening to him, so strong and healthy. He has been telling me to take nothing for granted and to appreciate all that I have. He still asks me how my running is going and gives me advice. I think of him every time I am out running.11 -
@PastorVincent I hope you get your run in and are able to get through your sermon tomorrow. It is heartbreaking what people do to each other.
I'll just add my 2 cents to the TMI discussion. Men shouldn't be squeamish about "women stuff" but some are and I think many women are raised not to discuss that stuff in front of men so it may be that the women are just as uncomfortable talking about it to men as the men are. My sisters and I were having a discussion recently about whether you should hide feminine products in your bathroom so the men in your family don't see them. I thought they meant used products, but no, a couple of my sisters actually hide the boxes so their husbands and sons don't have to see them. I keep a basket on the back of the toilet with an extra roll or two of toilet paper and a handful of feminine products in it. It never occured to me to worry about whether my husband or son or any other male who uses that bathroom would see them.
This, oh so much this. I keep my feminine products in a cupboard mostly so miss 4 and miss 2 don't get into them and destroy them. Other than that I don't care. They are what they are so deal with it. But I do remember growing up having my nana make it a big deal to keep quiet about it etc. I think one of the biggest problems is seperating kids for sex Ed. We should all learn about both because it's just biology. (soap box thing for me).
But I do work in a hospital where there is no off limit conversation at morning tea, and some of the things we talk about would make anyone feel a little queasy lol. Also I think in general NZ isn't as Conservative as the US, so we generally (very generally) tend to be a bit more open about these things. In my personal experience anyway.7 -
Well its Sunday and Hubby didn't qualify for his tournament so he is home after all. I'm tempted to do another 20k but I think I'll be sensible and do 15, with 13 next week and the race the week after. At this point my main goal is to avoid injury.
Also, this is what the weather looks like...
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@biketheworld i love your honesty in the monthly question.
It so easy to come here (or anywhere) and put on a show at how successful our running and food health is. Maybe it is easier for certain personalities, but i believe most of us struggle with food, exercise, cookies and my worst flaw- flat out laziness. I just dont care and i dont want to care. I want the cookie, i want the fried chicken (today it was chicken fried steak), i want to sleep in, i want what i want with NO effort. Gods honest truth thar. I'm a lazy being. And making those changes against my core being? Nah. Its gonna be a fight. Some days i win, others i lose, physically mentally and emotionally.
But in that struggle comes character development and discipline. I'm givin the opportunity to grow and learn with each challenge, each small or large thing "i dont wanna" do is my chance to do better, be better and exemplify better. How i show myself I'm capable of better.
An overweight person that is active lowers their health risks to that of a "slim" person- according to a tv show i watched. That btw, I'm unsure of its scientific accuracy. But- even without the scientific stamp of approval, it is undoubtedly healthier than not being active and making even the slightest changes towards better life habits. That's a win.
Each choice we make and the action we put towards that self-care choice is an investment in ourselves no matter how small that ripple is. Its analogous to running. One step in all those miles you managed last month or last year, is still one tiny seemingly insignificant step. And it is in itself progress.
You're here. That's a holy *kitten* change choice. And if you (anyone) hangs in here (or anywhere they develop positive changes) long enough, that's a monumental step in self investment.
I'm gonna follow up this monthly question with another. i wanna know, i want you to think about what is healthy? What does healthy look like? A hint: You wont find it in the media.
I think healthy is both physical and even more important mental. We just lost someone in our community to suicide. We are all in shock because from all appearances he seemed to be doing great. Great job, family, life... obviously mentally he wasn’t healthy.
Happy and healthy go hand and hand in my book. Oh and moderation. Everything in moderation. People who give up small pleasures they love thinking it makes them healthier? Seems a bit counterintuitive to me.
Of course my definition of what is moderate may be way off from someone else. I’m sure I have friends who think I spend far too much time running. I don’t drink at all and I'm sure some of my wine-loving friends think I’m missing out.
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@MegaMooseEsq @quilteryoyo @Elise4270 and @shanaber -
What you all said was phenomenal. I keep reading the posts - they're encouraging, honest, thoughtful AND helpful! I'm sitting here contemplating all the wins and losses over the last many years. The fact that I'm running at all is a huge win - thanks for reminding me of that. It's something I'm really so proud of - but then that ugly voice rears its ugly head and makes me question it all.
I'm right now thinking about goals to make - that will NOT include "losing 60 pounds by (date)". I'll let you know what those goals are but I want to consider my options carefully so that I go in fully committed! Thank you!
@lkpducky - the story of your friend is inspirational. Sorry that he's facing this health crisis - but what a gift he has been to you. Maybe you can turn it around and be that person to someone else. What a way to honor his life!
@Elise4270 - I like your new question: "I'm gonna follow up this monthly question with another. i wanna know, i want you to think about what is healthy? What does healthy look like? A hint: You wont find it in the media."
At first I thought this would be such an easy answer - "eat right and exercise" - but it's so much deeper than just those two things! I DO NOT picture a celebrity who is so thin they are basically a skeleton. Healthy is so much more than a person's weight. I'd describe a healthy person as someone who is OK with eating a little bit of everything but restricts the quantities. They would be thin but not excessively so - and active - which could mean working out or working in the yard or going for walks or skiing. That person would empower their self - wouldn't let people walk all over them, make wise choices, have good friendships, know when to laugh or cry or listen, sets boundaries and doesn't apologize about them. LOL - I think I want to marry this person!!!!!8 -
First run of the month for me was a 5k parkrun in torrential rain. But even the foul weather wasn't able to stop me and 54 other runners from having a fabulous time.
I even found time to take a quick picture of our lovely Fall leaves.
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11 miles this morning. Felt quite easy for being almost 30 sec/mi faster than planned MP. Temp was great, but very windy.
Wish I had some deep thoughts and inspirational words as so many of you posted recently, but I just can't right now. But they were all touching and I salute you all.7
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