November 2018 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • zeesparrow
    zeesparrow Posts: 348 Member
    Rest day today, walked the dogs for just under 2 miles.

    November Goals: 28 miles
    11/2: 2.15
    11/4: 2.47
    11/6: 2.59

    I made a ticker!
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  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,211 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    I just caught up with about 200 posts. wow!

    @rheddmobile great race report, and a great job on the race for you and your husband.

    Run/walk - Run walk is pretty much mandatory for ultras unless you're an elite. I power hike any significant ascents, and many of the insignificant ones. Some runners do use a prescribed run/walk. When I ran the Superior Spring 50K in May I ran with a guy who subscribed to a run 5/walk 1 mile plan. At the end of one of his 5 mile run intervals we said our goodbyes and wished each other well as he slowed to a walk. He later passed me on one of his runs and finished ahead of me. Considering how I get muscle fatigue late in an ultra, I should consider doing something like that on my next ultra, but it's so hard to force yourself to walk when you still feel good. This was the trouble I had at the Loopet Loppet last month. I felt great so mostly ran 28 miles, then had to walk the rest. Even if it doesn't improve my time I'd probably feel better with a structured run/walk.

    HR training. @garygse covered it well a few pages back. I'd like to offer more insight as to why you don't want to run faster than necessary. There are solid reasons for hitting certain heart rates during certain runs. Recovery runs, easy long runs, tempo runs, LT runs, strides, intervals, etc. If you're into HR monitoring, you're trying to hit certain heart rates for each type of run, which have a specific purpose and benefit.

    Some here have mentioned they know they're running their easy runs at higher than "conversational pace", but it works for them. I'd caution you, though, that running faster than necessary carries risk over time. The point of an easy run or recovery run is to provide a low-stress stimulus to your heart, lungs, bones, muscles, etc. This helps in recovery, add training volume, and keeps you fresh for the next days run. If you're running these runs any harder than that, you're doing your body a disservice. You're guiding principle should be to run at the slowest pace which still provides the benefit of the prescribed run. This keeps you injury free and fresh, as well as keeps the level of cortisol, a stress hormone, at a lower level. Any miles run at a faster pace than this carry no additional benefit but do carry additional risk.

    There's a term called "junk miles". Now this means different things to different runners, but in this context, it's anything run too hard to be considered an easy run, but not hard enough to be considered a threshold run. You're putting on more stress than an easy run, but not getting any additional benefits, or not getting them as efficiently as you could had your dialed in your HR for the specific purpose of the run.

    On the other hand, if running at such a pace makes you happy, who am I to say not to do it?

    Well I attempted a flat out run. Definitely hit my peak, stopped at 4k cause I started feeling light headed and slightly nauseated, so definitely zone 5. Max hr was 181 haha

    Then I had an epiphany, I have a wrist based HRM, not a chest one. So accuracy is way off.

    What I did realise is when I feel comfortable is probably zone 3, with occasional strides into 4. Today's run was definitely a 4, and hit 5.

    So basically I'm going to just keep doing what I'm doing.

    Have to say, it was fun going that quick lol.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Then I had an epiphany, I have a wrist based HRM, not a chest one. So accuracy is way off.

    This is not true. Assuming you have a Garmin, Apple, or another major brand, they are accurate. Oh and assuming you are wearing it in such a way that the sensor is close to your skin and not bouncing around.

    You could always test it by manually measuring your heart rate and comparing if you do not believe your watch. Assuming you count well, should be with a handful of BPM.

    i did not test mine outside but a borrowed chest HRM was close to my wrist HRM on the treadmill. and it was a beat off at most when i was at the dr.
  • Mari33a
    Mari33a Posts: 1,281 Member
    06/11 3.15 miles
    07/11 3.13 miles - run in the almost dark this evening, only needed my torch near end. Theres something very relaxing about it.


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  • polskagirl01
    polskagirl01 Posts: 2,024 Member
    quilteryoyo wrote: »
    @noblsheep Hahaha. If there is an open pack of Oreo's anywhere around me, they don't last very long! They are my weakness.

    Was this a foil pack of 6 oreos, or the gigantic packs they sell in the US with 3 rows of cookies?
  • Purplebunnysarah
    Purplebunnysarah Posts: 3,252 Member
    @lkpducky I have some flexibility but not as much as if I worked from home! I need to be on-site from 8-9 AM MWF but when I start and when I leave is otherwise up to me as long as I'm here 8 hours total. I have some discretion for long lunches as well as long as I punch out for them (we are not required to clock out for lunch if we stick to our allotted 30 minutes).
  • workaholic_nurse
    workaholic_nurse Posts: 727 Member
    sarahthes wrote: »
    Re: office views, I've really lucked out. No dreary windowless cubicle for me...

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    (However it is currently -8C. So there's that.)

    @sarahthes jealous despite the temp.
    lkpducky wrote: »
    I work from home so 1) I have a nice view from my window of the trees and condo buildings outside and doggies passing by and 2) I have a flexible schedule.

    @lkpducky :p
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,211 Member
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Then I had an epiphany, I have a wrist based HRM, not a chest one. So accuracy is way off.

    This is not true. Assuming you have a Garmin, Apple, or another major brand, they are accurate. Oh and assuming you are wearing it in such a way that the sensor is close to your skin and not bouncing around.

    You could always test it by manually measuring your heart rate and comparing if you do not believe your watch. Assuming you count well, should be with a handful of BPM.

    Oh I believed for some reason the wrist based ones were not as accurate as a chest strap. Learning lots.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    PastorVincent wrote: »
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Then I had an epiphany, I have a wrist based HRM, not a chest one. So accuracy is way off.

    This is not true. Assuming you have a Garmin, Apple, or another major brand, they are accurate. Oh and assuming you are wearing it in such a way that the sensor is close to your skin and not bouncing around.

    You could always test it by manually measuring your heart rate and comparing if you do not believe your watch. Assuming you count well, should be with a handful of BPM.

    Oh I believed for some reason the wrist based ones were not as accurate as a chest strap. Learning lots.

    they didn't used to be. now they are much better :smile:
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