What Was Your Work Out Today?
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Woke up with a back pain flare up today, went to the gym for over an hour to really work through my strengthening exercises along with some upper body stuff. Walked for an hour to and from the shops and also did some yin yoga this afternoon.2
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Upper body power day in the weight room, lots of sets of 4-6. Took longer than usual, on account of extra wait time before the final set of bench presses when I wanted to test my max reps. Last time I tested at this weight I got 8 reps; today I banged out 10. Was quite pleased, though it likely means I need to increase the weight I use to keep it in the "power" range rather than "hypertrophy". Not normally a problem, in fact usually something to celebrate, but I've been resistant to the idea of going too heavy on bench presses after I narrowly avoided double rotator cuff surgery a few years back doing too heavy bench presses. Granted, back then I was chasing the almighty one-rep-max, where now I don't drop below 4 reps, so the chances of injury are quite a bit less. But there is a bit of a psychological barrier in place I need to decide what to do with, whether to smash through or changeup my routine to work around it.3
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lower body strength intervals (alternating strength moved with bursts of cardio), 25 min. then a one mile brisk walk.3
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Back to usual: Just under 7k rowing bow in the quad. We did some timed intervals with target strokes per minute ratings again.3
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Lower body power day in the weight room, took longer than normal as I had to wait multiple times for my needed equipment to become available. Busy day in the weight room, especially for 5am.2
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Went out to an annual Fair and festival for about six days to help run a temporary restaurant. I walked about 70 miles over that time; no wonder my feet are sore. An average of about a dozen miles a day. Today is rest. Tomorrow a hike in the forest, and Thursday paddling.5
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I started last week with a goal to walk at least a mile every day, but quickly pushed it up to a mile and a half. Today, I had to concede that I still don't have the stamina to do that just yet. Today I made it 1.33 miles and it was killing me. I was struggling the last half hour and am completely exhausted. Might have to cut that to just 1 miles tomorrow and for the rest of the week until I recover (am having a lot of pain in my hip, calves and shins).4
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I went climbing on Saturday. We did some very easy sport climbing in Portland. Dorset. It was fun. We got a decent morning in, and then the heavens opened so we ended and did a hike.
We went bouldering on Sunday. It was also fun. Our destination,(Portland Bill) was at high tide, which drastically cut down on available routes.
I went climbing on Monday, with a spot of indoor bouldering. I was terrible; maybe I've been climbing too much. My Fitbit reckons I got its target active minutes (150 minutes) in this session alone.4 -
Haven't been reporting since I've had a bit of a health setback. I had an old cyst on my back rupture and get really angry! Long story short, had to have it removed last week (went under, not local). Decent sized incision in my back (around six inches across). They glued it back together because it was only right below the skin, so not too deep or involved.
I'm under doc's orders to not "get too sweaty" but I'm walking and doing really, super easy cardio right now. Can't lift just yet. Hope to get back to that soon. Also, can't swim right now either. Hope to get back in the flow soon.
Also looking forward to hearing the triathlon report from @djproulx! You all are doing great!5 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »Haven't been reporting since I've had a bit of a health setback. I had an old cyst on my back rupture and get really angry! Long story short, had to have it removed last week (went under, not local). Decent sized incision in my back (around six inches across). They glued it back together because it was only right below the skin, so not too deep or involved.
I'm under doc's orders to not "get too sweaty" but I'm walking and doing really, super easy cardio right now. Can't lift just yet. Hope to get back to that soon. Also, can't swim right now either. Hope to get back in the flow soon.
Also looking forward to hearing the triathlon report from @djproulx! You all are doing great!
Good to see you back here, @MikePfirrman. That cyst sounds like it was quite a painful thing. Glad you're on the mend.1 -
Just drove home from Geneva, NY this afternoon after completing IM 70.3 Musselman event on Sunday.
Race report follows. Short version: I completed a 70.3 distance triathlon. It hurt. A lot. But I didn't die. Recovery now underway.
Pre Race Details: Weather called for rain chances all weekend, with heavy clouds and 70 temps forecast for Sunday. Downpours likely to start around 10am. This made athletes focus on gearing up for weather by packing a second set of socks, wind/rain vest, warming sleeves, separate run shorts/tops, etc. Several big concerns were cycling safety as well as mitigating the risk of severe chafing from riding and running in wet clothes and shoes. Aquaphor, plastic gear bags, etc were topics of conversation at 5am in transition as 1800 of us got ready to swim.
Pre Race & Swim: This was the 20th anniversary Musselman Race and both Ironman staff and the local volunteers had every detail covered perfectly. The only thing they couldn't control was the weather. The flat calm lake at 4:30am became a bouncy chop when the gun went off at 6:30am. The triangular 1.2mile course required a counterclock wise swim. I had lined up near the back of the pack (43-46 minute estimated swim group) to avoid the most crowded conditions. What I didn't consider was that the wind blown chop pushed the less experienced swimmers around, causing many to zigzag into each other. This made it hard to take a straight line. I didn't want to push during the swim, knowing I would be energy starved later in the race.
Given the very warm water temp of 76.0 degrees, I also chose NOT to wear a full wetsuit, opting for just SIM shorts for buoyancy. This was a mistake since I needed to work harder to stay on course in the chop and push my way around quite a few swimmers. End result was an hour swim, not 45-50 minutes, but at least I came out of the water feeling fresh. Given my limited swim volume, this result wasn't a catastrophe. I gave my swim performance a grade of "C-".
Bike: This was a highlight for me. One of my regular training friends who raced it before (and did again on Sunday) raved about the bike course for its easy elevation profile, good pavement and long strait away stretches. She advised that I'd have trouble holding back on the course given the opportunities for real speed. She was right. My plan was to finish around 3:05-3:15, or about 17.5-18.0 mph.
The rain held off and it was dry pavement and light winds to start. The first 15 miles of the bike course held most of the climbing, so I focused on not pushing too hard to get around the many slow cyclists. (I started and ended the swim near the back of a pack of 1800 people, lol, so I had a lot of folks in front of me)
As I hit a backstretch along neighboring Cayuga lake, the wind picked up and we had to work uphill against a stiff breeze. I decided to use that climb to really start moving through the pack. I didn't have to spike my power above 250w for very long, so it was a controlled effort.
Once up the hill around mile 25, it was ALL fun. The long straight roads through the dairy country were a terraced net downhill and I really bore down. Using gravity and staying locked in my best aero posture, I went by dozens of riders on each descent. These were not steep hills, but there were a few half mile stretches where I averaged between 27-32mph while not using a lot of energy. My best five mile split was done in 13:05, or around 22mph. This was a blast, since I wasn't pushing at my maximum, simply using conditions to get free speed. I backed off for the last 10minutes of the ride to spin out my legs and get in as much fuel as I dared before coming off the bike. Finished right around 3:05:30, about 18mph. I gave myself a grade of "A-" for my bike effort.
I came into T2 feeling tired but recovered by walking the bike and taking a few minutes to put on dry socks, swig some electrolyte drink and down a waffle. After putting on hat, shoes, and my race belt with number, I walked out of transition doing some deep lunges to engage my glutes before running.
Run: The weather started to turn around 11am as I finished the bike. The clouds thickened and temps got warmer. Humidity was noticeable. I walked out of transition while consuming a gel and water bottle. After 200 yards, I began an easy paced 3:1 run walk. I knew right away that I was not fit enough to run the course, so I walked for a hundred yards into the first aid station at mile 1.5. It rained for about 30 minutes, then the clouds broke and the sun came out, creating a very hot humid afternoon. This was more than I was able to endure while running, so I walked most of miles 6-11. Over this stretch, I stopped at every aid station and drank a flat coke (for sodium, caffeine and sugar) and some ice water, dumping a second cup into my running hat. I also put handfuls of ice in my hat, but I could not stay cool for very long. The two hill climbs (two loop run course) were pretty brutal in the 85 degree heat, with more than half of the runners walking more often than not.
I also tried to keep up with nutrition via Maurten gels and pretzels(to stabilize my gut after all the liquid and simple sugars). Bottom line: this was a first order sufferfest and I thought hard about tapping out several times. I also become somewhat emotional, another sign that my resources were about used up. But I've been here before and realized that I could finish the race and I was not at the point of collapse or urgent medical need. It just hurt. I trudged across the line and didn't see my wife and friends standing there. I took the medal, a hat and water bottle and headed straight for the food tent to get shade and recover. Took about 20 minutes and I was "ok" again. I gave myself a grade of "D/D-" for the run.
Summary thoughts: While the 70.3 mile event is my favorite distance (I've done 8 of them) this race was a stiff reminder of the challenges in longer courses. The race is just too long to rely on luck or fitness in one discipline to carry you through feeling successful. While my bike fitness is good, the finishing time of 7:20:00 shows that I'll need to get about 10-12lbs leaner and train harder to approach my prior performance levels on the run. So I'll have to take time to decide whether I still have that fire, or if shorter course racing would be more satisfying going forward.
Overall the trip was a fun weekend with friends. We stayed right on the water at Cayuga Lake, and on Monday we toured a winery and also hiked through the impressive gorge running through Watkins Glen State Park. Here's a couple shots from the Park:
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@djproulx, that's both interesting and informative, speaking even as someone from a wildly different sport background. Congratulations on finishing! In any kind of competition, and a few things not truly competitive, I think an important success factor is that experiential self-knowledge to distinguish between hurting and actually being too hurt to continue safely. Thanks for sharing your honest race report!3
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@Djproulx, great job finishing and thinking your way through the difficult spots of the Half Iron race. Those photos were nice to see, also. Take some time to really rest up, mentally and physically. You know this already; I'm just spelling it out again.1
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As someone who used to run 5k's for fun and competition, just reading your report made me exhausted! lol The only part I could really sympathize with from my own experience was the part where you started in the back of the pack and systematically passed a number of people as you went. That was me during almost every 5k I ever ran...start off with a slow jog to let the crush of people get ahead, then start to accelerate as the crush broke apart into individuals again, concentrating on ignoring my own aches and fatigue by focusing on passing "just that one person ahead of me" over and over again. Though admittedly I passed more people during any inclines we encountered rather than during the declines.2
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After that exhausting read about a 70 mile tri-discipline race, my own meager 6 miles during one hour of elliptical hills seems quite tame by comparison.3
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I was thinking about that triathlon while I did my walk and how I could never do that. I barely made it 1 mile today although I did my maximum speed for as long as I could so I finished my mile in 24.5 minutes which was apparently a record according to my app. I did 1.07 miles in 26 minutes with a short 30-second pause in the middle to pet a pretty cat. I've decided I need to take it a little easier this week and do only a mile each day (I was pushing for 1.5+ miles each day the last week) because my legs are so sore because I'm so out of shape. It's really hard, though, because my mind wants to go farther and take this turn here for a little detour but my legs are like, please, no more, we still have to hike back up this hill to get home.5
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Legs and arms in the gym today, getting a bit itchy to mix up my routine but need to give it a think as to what I want to change it to!
30 minute walk as well.4 -
Treadmill 15 min
Elliptical 15 min
Chest cable fly high/mid/lows
Cable rows
Cable lateral raises
Leg press
Ab crunches
Face pulls
Overhead triceps extensions
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justanotherjen13 wrote: »I was thinking about that triathlon while I did my walk and how I could never do that. I barely made it 1 mile today although I did my maximum speed for as long as I could so I finished my mile in 24.5 minutes which was apparently a record according to my app. I did 1.07 miles in 26 minutes with a short 30-second pause in the middle to pet a pretty cat. I've decided I need to take it a little easier this week and do only a mile each day (I was pushing for 1.5+ miles each day the last week) because my legs are so sore because I'm so out of shape. It's really hard, though, because my mind wants to go farther and take this turn here for a little detour but my legs are like, please, no more, we still have to hike back up this hill to get home.
Y'know what, @justanotherjen13 ? I think you'll surprise yourself with where you are in a few months, let alone in a year or more, if you persist and keep gradually but manageably challenging yourself.
It was a long time ago now (around 2000, when I was just post-surgery/chemo/radiation and still overweight/obese), but I started out pretty darned physically depleted. Within a small number of years - much to my surprise and that of my friends - I was competing as an athlete . . . not a great one, but often in the pack with my age cohort. I'm not saying you should do that or should want to, but I'd bet the "surprising yourself" option is out there waiting for you. Hang in there, and give yourself credit for your discipline. It'll pay off.
One comment: I hear your desire to push things a little, mixed with a very sensible hesitancy about overdoing. Keep in mind that doing 1 mile every day, then switching to 1.5 miles every day, is not the only option.
For one, there's a general rule of thumb for training that 10% increase per week is reasonable. One mile to 1.5 is a 50% increase all at once!
For two, you could consider increasing part of the time, such as 1 mile on a day when you feel average, and 1.1 miles (or whatever) on a day you feel especially strong/energetic - mix it up, not full pedal to the metal every time.
For three, you could keep the walks at 1 mile but add another activity mode, like . . . oh, I dunno . . . maybe 10 minutes every other day of gentle stretching or some exercise bands or some manageable upper body lifting (even soup cans) or something - anything that sounds doable, a little challenging, maybe even kinda fun.
Not all of those, but the point is there are options and alternatives. You're doing great!
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@justanotherjen13 welcome to our little family! The hardest part in any fitness routine is simply starting, and you've already done that. Now it's time to make smart decisions about how to continue.
@AnnPT77 pointed out a few ideas about what you can do to slowly and incrementally increase your routine, let me just share an anecdotal story about why. I've been lifting weights for about 14 years now. Early on, I wanted to see just how heavy I could lift, a good goal, IF you do it smart. Hint: I didn't. I rushed things, went up too fast, thought I was doing great just because the weights kept increasing, but I wasn't giving my body time to adapt fully. My muscles were getting stronger, but my joints were lagging behind, a fact I ignored until the day I almost tore both arms out of their sockets by trying to lift a weight I wasn't ready for. Cost me a LOT of pain, along with several months' rehab (and NOT lifting, which I had come to love). Fast forward to today, and despite the fact I'm at an age where most guys' strength naturally starts to ebb due to simply getting older, I'm at my strongest ever, and I attribute it to being smart and only very slowly increasing my workload.
How does this talk about weightlifting apply to somebody simply wanting to walk? I rushed it, and paid the price. So don't rush it! Having a goal is great, but you need to be ready. Since you just started walking a mile each day, I'd say do not change anything for at least a couple weeks, just get used to walking that mile. The soreness you are experiencing will begin to lessen as your body becomes used to moving through that mile, and usually will be much less within a week or two, if you stay consistent. Then and only then should you begin systematically increasing your intensity in some fashion, whether through walking longer, or walking faster, or walking uphill instead of flat terrain, or adding resistance, or any of a number of methods. Small changes will make your fitness routine more effective, but only if you actually do them. If the change is too large, you physically cannot do it, or you risk injury. If you are in constant pain, then pretty soon you're going to have psychological challenges on top of the physical ones where you justify not going on today's walk because of <insert excuse here>.
So welcome to walking and sharing with us! Don't change a thing for at least two weeks, just get used to it, let your muscles wake up to the fact they can do this. Ask questions during this span about what to do to improve next. If it takes a year to increase from 1 mile to 1.5 miles, that's still a full year's worth of walking you've completed, compared to throwing your hands in the air or getting injured and NOT walking at all.
You got this, and you're in the right place. Welcome to the family!3 -
As someone who used to run 5k's for fun and competition, just reading your report made me exhausted! lol The only part I could really sympathize with from my own experience was the part where you started in the back of the pack and systematically passed a number of people as you went. That was me during almost every 5k I ever ran...start off with a slow jog to let the crush of people get ahead, then start to accelerate as the crush broke apart into individuals again, concentrating on ignoring my own aches and fatigue by focusing on passing "just that one person ahead of me" over and over again. Though admittedly I passed more people during any inclines we encountered rather than during the declines.
@nossmf: IDK, I wouldn't minimize your 5k efforts, the 5k race distance can be incredibly painful, since you're pushing at threshold pace the whole time. That 20 minute stretch is intense suffering, just like a 20 minute threshold test in bike training. Long course racing involves a lower intensity effort that goes on for a long time, so you must learn to manage your energy in order to push your limits.
But both races are as much a mental test as a physical one. The question is simply: How much are you willing to suffer in order to go faster?
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@AnnPT77 and @nossmf Thanks for the advice. I definitely went overboard this last week. I used to be able to easily walk so much more and underestimated how badly out of shape I let myself get. My original baseline was going to be one mile in about a half hour so a very leisurely pace. After a couple days, that didn't seem like much so I just kept going like I used to when I was younger and would just wander for long periods of time. I think the problem is our neighborhood is on a hillside so leaving my house going pretty much anywhere in my neighborhood is downhill so it's not really hard and I don't think much of it until I turn around and have to walk uphill all the way home. Then I start to feel the burn. Too much burn, lol.
So I guess this last week was some experimenting to see which routes work best but I managed to just overdo it because I was thinking about what I used to be able to do not what I can do now. My plan for this week is to stay in the flattest part of the neighborhood and try to stay between 1 and 1.25 miles and to slow down so it's not such a strain on my legs.
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I was out camping with some extended family last weekend so only walking and a few short sprints then. When at home, Monday on, I've been consistently doing a short early morning elliptical workout, 20 minutes today followed by 15 minutes of light calisthenics. I went to the gym to swim this afternoon but found that my swim stuff wasn't in the locker as expected. I did have gym shorts etc. in the locker so donned that and went to the fitness area. 20 minutes on a stationary bike to warm up followed by sets of assisted pullups. Then 20 minutes running on a treadmill and some sets on a lat pulldown machine.
@Djproulx Your comment about suffering to go faster reminded me of a quote by a British cyclist, Greg Lemond: "It never gets easier, you just go faster"However, that's for racing. Beginners should not be suffering while they're building a base.
As I recall, there's a common progression for many begining runners. First your aerobic capacity starts to improve. The running feels easier but the muscles are easily strained. Think DOMS for instance. Then the muscles start catching up and runners have the wind and strength to hurt tendons and ligaments which toughen much slower. Or the muscles can develop faster than the fascia encasing them. The last thing to get stronger is the bones. I saw a video once of a female teenage highschool crosscountry runner collapsing near the finish line with broken legs. The moral of the story is to build slowly, even when it feels like you could be going much faster or longer.
I hurt myself once by not allowing enough recovery after a 70.3. It had been my best time to date as I was training for a full distance event. The day after I ran an easy 5k and it felt good. So, the next day, I pushed hard. However, the big muscles were still recovering and I ended up straining a small stabilizing muscle that was trying to compensate. Believe me, even a little muscle can lay you up!4 -
justanotherjen13 wrote: »@AnnPT77 and @nossmf Thanks for the advice. I definitely went overboard this last week. I used to be able to easily walk so much more and underestimated how badly out of shape I let myself get. My original baseline was going to be one mile in about a half hour so a very leisurely pace. After a couple days, that didn't seem like much so I just kept going like I used to when I was younger and would just wander for long periods of time. I think the problem is our neighborhood is on a hillside so leaving my house going pretty much anywhere in my neighborhood is downhill so it's not really hard and I don't think much of it until I turn around and have to walk uphill all the way home. Then I start to feel the burn. Too much burn, lol.
So I guess this last week was some experimenting to see which routes work best but I managed to just overdo it because I was thinking about what I used to be able to do not what I can do now. My plan for this week is to stay in the flattest part of the neighborhood and try to stay between 1 and 1.25 miles and to slow down so it's not such a strain on my legs.
@justanotherjen13 - Welcome! Great decision to start walking. You're on the right track in taking the suggestions offered by two veteran exercisers above. I'll just add that the most important thing you're doing right now is building the habit of exercising. Doesn't matter at all how far you go, how fast you go, or how hilly or flat the route is. The key to long term success IMO is to do something (anything) consistently until it becomes a part of who you are. And I smiled when I read your comment about your mind wanting to go farther than your legs would carry you. Boy, I've been there lately!!
The other point I'll make is that you'd be surprised at what you'll be capable of in a very short time. And in response to your comment about "I was thinking how I could never do that", I'll give you an example that may provide some inspiration into what IS possible.
This is a video from a race I did in 2018. Its 9 minutes long, but you can skip right to the parts that give you an idea of wide variety of people doing the race. Starting at the 2:30 mark, you can see and hear "regular folks" as they prepare their gear in the dark. Notice the smiles and enthusiasm. Then, skipping to 7:59, the heavy set guy who says "Tonight's the night" and later crosses the line to finally become an Ironman after 6 failed attempts. Finally, at 8:25, the announcer calls in a 75 year old athlete as he crosses the finish line. The point is not to try to sell you on triathlon,, but to suggest that we can do so much more than we think we can when starting out.
Anyway, enough yammering from me. I'm looking forward to hearing about your progress.
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The usual roughly 7k in bow of the quad today, calling technical focus pieces, starting with early square-up and progressing via several focus-steps through drawing through all the way to the ribs then tapping down to release. Then we did some "hold consistent strokes per minute" intervals at a couple of different spm levels. There was East wind (directly counter-current on our stretch of river) so it was a little choppy.
I was supposed to volunteer-supervise an open rowing session tonight, but there were thunderstorms in the area, so I took myself out for good Mexican food instead.4 -
@justanotherjen13 -- my elderly cat is currently perched on my left shoulder as I write this, and we both like your stopping to pet a cat during your workout. Welcome!
@Djproulx, great video! It makes me want to go for the middle distance IM.
@nossmf --your description of nearly tearing your arms off in the weight room sounded terrible and also made me think of Chewbacca.I'm in my third week off from running after trying to do too many miles, too soon. Brought on by thinking too much about what I used to do years ago and going from a 25 to a 45 min. run in one week (or maybe the shin splints had already started, who knows?).
You said something about that too, @Ernest_Nigma, trying to recapture a past level of fitness too quickly.3 -
I went climbing yesterday. It was really good fun, I was in the best form I've been recently. I got one climb graded v5, although it was probably more like a medium v4. It's odd; I was terrible on Monday but a day's sort-of rest sorted it. (I don't really like rest days, so I did an hour's yoga and three hour's walking on Tuesday.)4
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Swimming this morning, really early to catch one of the few times they have the bulkheads moved for 50m lanes. 13 x 100m with lots of rest, 40 minutes. 100m times are still nowhere near what they used to be but. like the signs @AnnPT77 mentioned, "You are Here" and here is where I'm working from.4
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Ernest_Nigma wrote: »Swimming this morning, really early to catch one of the few times they have the bulkheads moved for 50m lanes. 13 x 100m with lots of rest, 40 minutes. 100m times are still nowhere near what they used to be but. like the signs @AnnPT77 mentioned, "You are Here" and here is where I'm working from.
50meter lanes are nice. Good news is that swim pace seems to respond well to an increase in training.2
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