Is bread bad?
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But hey at least they solved world hunger. Right guys?0
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absolutely not. White bread is processed bread and that is worse but not explicitly bad just worse then brown or grain breads
the issue is White bread is pure carbs, salt and sugar so that would = easy fat gain
Brown/Grain = lower GI, more nutrients, better fat to burn ratio
Either way provided like more or less anything, if you plan it into your daily allowance then it's ok.
Uh, what?0 -
But hey at least they solved world hunger. Right guys?
Nope. That was an evil worldwide corporate plot. We all know that humanity is a disease on earth, and that the world will be better off when it's finally ruled by giant, but benevolent, three toed sloths who clearly will take better care of the ecosystem and bring about galactic peace. :bigsmile:0 -
bread killed my mother!!!!0 -
Simple carbs are not the best; aim for complex carbs - basically the stuff that has dietary fiber in it - helps with digestion. But, bread is not evil - MODERATION!! is always key!0
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I eat bread.
Hell I eat hot pockets if it fits in my day.
Unless you have a glucose problem, my personal suggestion (I'm not a PT or anything!) is to not limit the groups of food you present to your body. Then they are going to adapt to a really strict diet and everything will make you feel sick.
Again just my person experience, but your pdoc is the best person to ask!
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Basically, white breads are generally full of simple carbs like sugar. Wheat & whole grains are better because of the amount of dietary fiber in them (complex carbs).0
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It depends what they put in the bread. Go for whole grains and/or unbleached flour. Avoid corn syrup, preservatives, coloring, added flavoring, and things you can't recognize.
I actually cut out bread as much as I could, only to find out [from the doctor that] it was a great source for a nutrient I was lacking. (It's packed with nutrition.)
Just make sure you are balancing your meals and not driving your insulin levels too high. In other words, two slices a day won't hurt.0 -
A friend of mine told me I should not be eating bread. I make myself sandwiches quite often. I keep within my calorie intake. Opinions anyone?
There are a lot of people who believe you can't lose weight if you eat processed food. This is a falsehood. If you're highly diabetic of course, bread is a less good option. If you've got normal blood sugar, it's not terrible.
That said, if it fits in your macros and calorie goals, it's fine. If it doesn't, it's not.
All things being equal, whole grain breads would be better (more nutritious) than say white bread. *shrug*0 -
Can you explain what a "fat to burn ratio" is? I've never heard of this before.
Meaning bad carbs (High GI) are more likely to pack on fat at a faster rate. Good carbs (low gi etc.) get burned off b4 they can get to that stage.0 -
Bread is yummy. How can it be bad when it tastes so good?
Moderation.0 -
Bread is not bad. I eat gluten free bread. Mostly it's made from a rice flour blend and does not contain wheat. If you aren't gluten sensitive, whatever makes you happy!0
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Can you explain what a "fat to burn ratio" is? I've never heard of this before.
Meaning bad carbs (High GI) are more likely to pack on fat at a faster rate. Good carbs (low gi etc.) get burned off b4 they can get to that stage.
I'm not sure about this. A low GI number is less likely to cause a sugar spike and takes longer to digest, usually including complex carbs. A high GI number is more for simple carbs and causes a sugar spike, thus is digested quickly. It also may cause you to get food cravings from the rapid crash from simple carbs, like sugar. When all is said and done, count your calories. Sugar spike or no, calories are what matters.0 -
Bread is evil. It murdered my family.0
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Can you explain what a "fat to burn ratio" is? I've never heard of this before.
Meaning bad carbs (High GI) are more likely to pack on fat at a faster rate. Good carbs (low gi etc.) get burned off b4 they can get to that stage.
I'm not sure about this. A low GI number is less likely to cause a sugar spike and takes longer to digest, usually including complex carbs. A high GI number is more for simple carbs and causes a sugar spike, thus is digested quickly. It also may cause you to get food cravings from the rapid crash from simple carbs, like sugar. When all is said and done, count your calories. Sugar spike or no, calories are what matters.
Agreed. I did some reading a while back on GI as a diet tool and I got the strong impression that experts agree that it isn't really that useful for weight loss. It's a tool that people with Diabetes can use to determine how certain foods will affect their blood sugar, but whether or not a food has a high GI does not affect whether you will gain weight or not -- that's all about calorie deficit.
I think a point of confusion is that because people who eat a lot of high GI foods tend to be more likely to be obese, some people assume that this is a causative relationship -- high GI causes obesity. The reality is that high GI foods are more likely to also be high calorie, therefore people who eat a lot of high GI foods are more likely to be eating beyond their maintenance calories and gaining weight. So, bottom line, as long as your high GI food does not exceed your calorie goal for the day, it isn't going to make you gain weight any more than a low GI food would.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/glycemic-index-diet/MY007700 -
Can you explain what a "fat to burn ratio" is? I've never heard of this before.
Meaning bad carbs (High GI) are more likely to pack on fat at a faster rate. Good carbs (low gi etc.) get burned off b4 they can get to that stage.
Or you could skip this type of silliness and simply focus on macros and calories.0 -
Bwa ha ha ha ha!0
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I love bread. I bake my own.
Having said that, I've almost eliminated it from my diet, because it triggers major carb cravings for me. In plain English: once I have a slice, I can't stop :grumble:
If this doesn't happen to you and you won't go nuts, there's no reason why you shouldn't be eating bread.0 -
bread is really bad. I was held at gunpoint by bread, which ransacked my house, stole all my things and poked my kids with pointy sticks. the police are too scared to do anything because of criminal master-breads who control all the crime in the city. And some think the chief of police is really bread pretending to be good. He says he's wholegrain, but we're not so sure about that.
Seriously, bread is neither good nor bad. in AD&D terms it's true neutral. Eating too much bread makes it easy to be over your calories for the day if you're not tracking, but if you track your calories and fit bread into your calories and macros then it won't do you any harm, unless you're allergic to one of the ingredients, or gluten intolerant or something. If eating bread makes you sick, don't eat it. If it doesn't, and if fits in your calories and macros, then eat it and enjoy it.
This is the first time I've seen AD&D used to explain something in food terms....well done you!
:flowerforyou: @ understanding my reference to AD&D
....all food is true neutral, except celery, which is chaotic evil because it tastes and smells utterly vile on purpose, just to torment me.
*ahem*
Celery isn't the only one on that exception list.
I humbly suggest that grapefruit be included as well.0 -
So if I eat high GI foods and the carbs "get to that stage" but I'm still in a caloric deficit for the day, where does my body get the energy it still needs to continue functioning?Can you explain what a "fat to burn ratio" is? I've never heard of this before.
Meaning bad carbs (High GI) are more likely to pack on fat at a faster rate. Good carbs (low gi etc.) get burned off b4 they can get to that stage.
(hint: It gets it from the amount of fat that was "packed on" earlier plus even more since I'm in a deficit.)0 -
Grapefruit made its saving throw against the detect alignment spell with a natural 20.bread is really bad. I was held at gunpoint by bread, which ransacked my house, stole all my things and poked my kids with pointy sticks. the police are too scared to do anything because of criminal master-breads who control all the crime in the city. And some think the chief of police is really bread pretending to be good. He says he's wholegrain, but we're not so sure about that.
Seriously, bread is neither good nor bad. in AD&D terms it's true neutral. Eating too much bread makes it easy to be over your calories for the day if you're not tracking, but if you track your calories and fit bread into your calories and macros then it won't do you any harm, unless you're allergic to one of the ingredients, or gluten intolerant or something. If eating bread makes you sick, don't eat it. If it doesn't, and if fits in your calories and macros, then eat it and enjoy it.
This is the first time I've seen AD&D used to explain something in food terms....well done you!
:flowerforyou: @ understanding my reference to AD&D
....all food is true neutral, except celery, which is chaotic evil because it tastes and smells utterly vile on purpose, just to torment me.
*ahem*
Celery isn't the only one on that exception list.
I humbly suggest that grapefruit be included as well.0
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