has anyone drank apple cider vinegar to lose weight?
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snickerscharlie wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »
Especially when something tastes as nasty as ACV does. I call it the Mea Culpa Syndrome - people choke it down and then think, "Wow! I just did something good for my body!" Atonement for their previous (and usually current) dietary 'sins.'
If it tastes like crap, it *has* to be doing good stuff, right? LOL
I know I'm weird, but I actually like the stuff.
Still on the side of "does nothing magical for weight loss", though.
Yes, you *are* weird about that, but it's your only flaw so...
I *did* try it a few years ago when all of the hubbub about it first surfaced.
Happened to have a bottle in the fridge (it's one of the ingredients for a fabulous flank steak marinade I make, but I digress) so I poured myself a bit and downed it. Thought I was gonna die. To me, it tasted like pure bile in a shot glass.
The good news is I was on the verge of puking for the next few hours, so likely lost weight because I skipped lunch.
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Good apple cider vinegar does taste nice to me, but I was brought up using a shot glass worth of it per individual chip. Taste-wise, I could definitely drink a small glassful. For UK readers, I recommend Aspalls apple cider vinegar.
Malt vinegar, as in the cheap stuff at the counter at your local chip shop, would be a hella no, though.2 -
Yikes... it blows my mind people think this kind of thing will actually give you results...1
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LovelySavannah wrote: »Yes, people do build up an immunity to something that they are exposed to numerous amount of times.
The dietitian did not order me to detox. We were just talking afterwards and that topic came up.
Not true. I am exposed to apple cider vinegar posts a zillion times since joining MFP.
They still upset me.
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WinoGelato wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I see your point. I've seen everyone's point on who has replied to me. If I had known all of this was going to happen, I sure would have not said anything. Thanks for everyone's input and trust me, I won't voice my biased opinion without facts/studies ever again.
This is a lesson many people could really try to learn and I appreciate that your intentions were good and you were providing your own anecdotal experience with ACV not trying to force or even influence anyone else to follow your approach.
That said - there is a tremendous amount of misinformation prevalent about diet, weight loss, nutrition and fitness. Some of it is intentional - snake oil salespeople and others looking to profit off of passing bad or not scientifically supported methods.
Some of it is spread by people who seem like they have authority (you mentioned both a doctor and a dietician) but the thing is - many of these people are not actually as scientifically knowledgeable as their credentials suggest. Some of it is just propagated by media (traditional and social) to grab attention, headline, clicks, to generate buzz or advertising revenue.
Bottom line - there is zero scientific evidence that “detox” is a thing because there are zero toxins that are impacted by these methods that aren’t already addressed by your liver and kidneys. If someone tells you otherwise then you should be very skeptical. And you don’t need to “help” your liver and kidneys with these functions.
So why is it problematic if you’re doing it “because you like it”? And just want to mention it here in case anyone else wants to try? Because of all this confusing misinformation that is so prevalent. People need to understand what the actual root cause of weight loss is (a calorie deficit) so they can focus on what will truly work and not waste time on things like ACV or other nonsense perpetuating their frustration or potentially causing them to give up altogether.
I hope you’re still reading along and try to take this constructive advice with an open mind. Critically vetting sources is an invaluable skill set and it’s one that people here really pride themselves on. Its our best way to battle against all this misinformation and try to really help people meet their goals.
@WinoGelato ...Best post in the thread (apologies to many other great ones). @LovelySavannah I also hope you are following along. Since you just joined in December, I don't think you've had the chance to see all the ACV claims that pop up here very regularly. The negative responses to your claims are not personal, although I'm sure they might feel that way. They are negative to the claims themselves.
There is a huge amount of education you can glean from these forums, but you also have to read and investigate claims critically. Because for every bogus ACV claim out there, there's another one for the Obesity Code, all things insulin, Intermittent Fasting is magic and so on. I personally treasure the sheer knowledge available through people here whose only investment is time. People care about others reaching their goals. To the extent that misinformation prevents that, smart people here work hard trying to correct the misinformation - with zero reward for doing so, other than the fact that they have helped somebody gain the understanding necessary to be successful. Sometimes that success changes a person's life forever. So debunking misinformation is a noble thing. And I know it sound harsh, but's it's much more noble than making somebody feel okay about believing in things that simply are not true. I hope your mind is open for such things.10 -
Silentpadna wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I see your point. I've seen everyone's point on who has replied to me. If I had known all of this was going to happen, I sure would have not said anything. Thanks for everyone's input and trust me, I won't voice my biased opinion without facts/studies ever again.
This is a lesson many people could really try to learn and I appreciate that your intentions were good and you were providing your own anecdotal experience with ACV not trying to force or even influence anyone else to follow your approach.
That said - there is a tremendous amount of misinformation prevalent about diet, weight loss, nutrition and fitness. Some of it is intentional - snake oil salespeople and others looking to profit off of passing bad or not scientifically supported methods.
Some of it is spread by people who seem like they have authority (you mentioned both a doctor and a dietician) but the thing is - many of these people are not actually as scientifically knowledgeable as their credentials suggest. Some of it is just propagated by media (traditional and social) to grab attention, headline, clicks, to generate buzz or advertising revenue.
Bottom line - there is zero scientific evidence that “detox” is a thing because there are zero toxins that are impacted by these methods that aren’t already addressed by your liver and kidneys. If someone tells you otherwise then you should be very skeptical. And you don’t need to “help” your liver and kidneys with these functions.
So why is it problematic if you’re doing it “because you like it”? And just want to mention it here in case anyone else wants to try? Because of all this confusing misinformation that is so prevalent. People need to understand what the actual root cause of weight loss is (a calorie deficit) so they can focus on what will truly work and not waste time on things like ACV or other nonsense perpetuating their frustration or potentially causing them to give up altogether.
I hope you’re still reading along and try to take this constructive advice with an open mind. Critically vetting sources is an invaluable skill set and it’s one that people here really pride themselves on. Its our best way to battle against all this misinformation and try to really help people meet their goals.
@WinoGelato ...Best post in the thread (apologies to many other great ones). @LovelySavannah I also hope you are following along. Since you just joined in December, I don't think you've had the chance to see all the ACV claims that pop up here very regularly. The negative responses to your claims are not personal, although I'm sure they might feel that way. They are negative to the claims themselves.
There is a huge amount of education you can glean from these forums, but you also have to read and investigate claims critically. Because for every bogus ACV claim out there, there's another one for the Obesity Code, all things insulin, Intermittent Fasting is magic and so on. I personally treasure the sheer knowledge available through people here whose only investment is time. People care about others reaching their goals. To the extent that misinformation prevents that, smart people here work hard trying to correct the misinformation - with zero reward for doing so, other than the fact that they have helped somebody gain the understanding necessary to be successful. Sometimes that success changes a person's life forever. So debunking misinformation is a noble thing. And I know it sound harsh, but's it's much more noble than making somebody feel okay about believing in things that simply are not true. I hope your mind is open for such things.
And sometimes for the "reward" of having a poster ignore a person's carefully thought-out replies that they've taken the time to educate themselves about and share in favor of having their ears tickled by someone pushing nonsense.
Yes, I'm feeling a little bitter this morning! (different thread)
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snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »
Especially when something tastes as nasty as ACV does. I call it the Mea Culpa Syndrome - people choke it down and then think, "Wow! I just did something good for my body!" Atonement for their previous (and usually current) dietary 'sins.'
If it tastes like crap, it *has* to be doing good stuff, right? LOL
I know I'm weird, but I actually like the stuff.
Still on the side of "does nothing magical for weight loss", though.
Yes, you *are* weird about that, but it's your only flaw so...
I *did* try it a few years ago when all of the hubbub about it first surfaced.
Happened to have a bottle in the fridge (it's one of the ingredients for a fabulous flank steak marinade I make, but I digress) so I poured myself a bit and downed it. Thought I was gonna die. To me, it tasted like pure bile in a shot glass.
The good news is I was on the verge of puking for the next few hours, so likely lost weight because I skipped lunch.
I need this recipe, please! @snickerscharlie
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Silentpadna wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I see your point. I've seen everyone's point on who has replied to me. If I had known all of this was going to happen, I sure would have not said anything. Thanks for everyone's input and trust me, I won't voice my biased opinion without facts/studies ever again.
This is a lesson many people could really try to learn and I appreciate that your intentions were good and you were providing your own anecdotal experience with ACV not trying to force or even influence anyone else to follow your approach.
That said - there is a tremendous amount of misinformation prevalent about diet, weight loss, nutrition and fitness. Some of it is intentional - snake oil salespeople and others looking to profit off of passing bad or not scientifically supported methods.
Some of it is spread by people who seem like they have authority (you mentioned both a doctor and a dietician) but the thing is - many of these people are not actually as scientifically knowledgeable as their credentials suggest. Some of it is just propagated by media (traditional and social) to grab attention, headline, clicks, to generate buzz or advertising revenue.
Bottom line - there is zero scientific evidence that “detox” is a thing because there are zero toxins that are impacted by these methods that aren’t already addressed by your liver and kidneys. If someone tells you otherwise then you should be very skeptical. And you don’t need to “help” your liver and kidneys with these functions.
So why is it problematic if you’re doing it “because you like it”? And just want to mention it here in case anyone else wants to try? Because of all this confusing misinformation that is so prevalent. People need to understand what the actual root cause of weight loss is (a calorie deficit) so they can focus on what will truly work and not waste time on things like ACV or other nonsense perpetuating their frustration or potentially causing them to give up altogether.
I hope you’re still reading along and try to take this constructive advice with an open mind. Critically vetting sources is an invaluable skill set and it’s one that people here really pride themselves on. Its our best way to battle against all this misinformation and try to really help people meet their goals.
@WinoGelato ...Best post in the thread (apologies to many other great ones). @LovelySavannah I also hope you are following along. Since you just joined in December, I don't think you've had the chance to see all the ACV claims that pop up here very regularly. The negative responses to your claims are not personal, although I'm sure they might feel that way. They are negative to the claims themselves.
There is a huge amount of education you can glean from these forums, but you also have to read and investigate claims critically. Because for every bogus ACV claim out there, there's another one for the Obesity Code, all things insulin, Intermittent Fasting is magic and so on. I personally treasure the sheer knowledge available through people here whose only investment is time. People care about others reaching their goals. To the extent that misinformation prevents that, smart people here work hard trying to correct the misinformation - with zero reward for doing so, other than the fact that they have helped somebody gain the understanding necessary to be successful. Sometimes that success changes a person's life forever. So debunking misinformation is a noble thing. And I know it sound harsh, but's it's much more noble than making somebody feel okay about believing in things that simply are not true. I hope your mind is open for such things.
And sometimes for the "reward" of having a poster ignore a person's carefully thought-out replies that they've taken the time to educate themselves about and share in favor of having their ears tickled by someone pushing nonsense.
Yes, I'm feeling a little bitter this morning! (different thread)
Because you sound like you need a laugh, here's a corgi shaking his bum.
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Silentpadna wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »LovelySavannah wrote: »I see your point. I've seen everyone's point on who has replied to me. If I had known all of this was going to happen, I sure would have not said anything. Thanks for everyone's input and trust me, I won't voice my biased opinion without facts/studies ever again.
This is a lesson many people could really try to learn and I appreciate that your intentions were good and you were providing your own anecdotal experience with ACV not trying to force or even influence anyone else to follow your approach.
That said - there is a tremendous amount of misinformation prevalent about diet, weight loss, nutrition and fitness. Some of it is intentional - snake oil salespeople and others looking to profit off of passing bad or not scientifically supported methods.
Some of it is spread by people who seem like they have authority (you mentioned both a doctor and a dietician) but the thing is - many of these people are not actually as scientifically knowledgeable as their credentials suggest. Some of it is just propagated by media (traditional and social) to grab attention, headline, clicks, to generate buzz or advertising revenue.
Bottom line - there is zero scientific evidence that “detox” is a thing because there are zero toxins that are impacted by these methods that aren’t already addressed by your liver and kidneys. If someone tells you otherwise then you should be very skeptical. And you don’t need to “help” your liver and kidneys with these functions.
So why is it problematic if you’re doing it “because you like it”? And just want to mention it here in case anyone else wants to try? Because of all this confusing misinformation that is so prevalent. People need to understand what the actual root cause of weight loss is (a calorie deficit) so they can focus on what will truly work and not waste time on things like ACV or other nonsense perpetuating their frustration or potentially causing them to give up altogether.
I hope you’re still reading along and try to take this constructive advice with an open mind. Critically vetting sources is an invaluable skill set and it’s one that people here really pride themselves on. Its our best way to battle against all this misinformation and try to really help people meet their goals.
@WinoGelato ...Best post in the thread (apologies to many other great ones). @LovelySavannah I also hope you are following along. Since you just joined in December, I don't think you've had the chance to see all the ACV claims that pop up here very regularly. The negative responses to your claims are not personal, although I'm sure they might feel that way. They are negative to the claims themselves.
There is a huge amount of education you can glean from these forums, but you also have to read and investigate claims critically. Because for every bogus ACV claim out there, there's another one for the Obesity Code, all things insulin, Intermittent Fasting is magic and so on. I personally treasure the sheer knowledge available through people here whose only investment is time. People care about others reaching their goals. To the extent that misinformation prevents that, smart people here work hard trying to correct the misinformation - with zero reward for doing so, other than the fact that they have helped somebody gain the understanding necessary to be successful. Sometimes that success changes a person's life forever. So debunking misinformation is a noble thing. And I know it sound harsh, but's it's much more noble than making somebody feel okay about believing in things that simply are not true. I hope your mind is open for such things.
And sometimes for the "reward" of having a poster ignore a person's carefully thought-out replies that they've taken the time to educate themselves about and share in favor of having their ears tickled by someone pushing nonsense.
Yes, I'm feeling a little bitter this morning! (different thread)
Because you sound like you need a laugh, here's a corgi shaking his bum.
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French_Peasant wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »
Especially when something tastes as nasty as ACV does. I call it the Mea Culpa Syndrome - people choke it down and then think, "Wow! I just did something good for my body!" Atonement for their previous (and usually current) dietary 'sins.'
If it tastes like crap, it *has* to be doing good stuff, right? LOL
I know I'm weird, but I actually like the stuff.
Still on the side of "does nothing magical for weight loss", though.
Yes, you *are* weird about that, but it's your only flaw so...
I *did* try it a few years ago when all of the hubbub about it first surfaced.
Happened to have a bottle in the fridge (it's one of the ingredients for a fabulous flank steak marinade I make, but I digress) so I poured myself a bit and downed it. Thought I was gonna die. To me, it tasted like pure bile in a shot glass.
The good news is I was on the verge of puking for the next few hours, so likely lost weight because I skipped lunch.
I need this recipe, please! @snickerscharlie
Here you go:
1/3 cup olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
1/3 cup soy sauce
1/2 cup honey
1/2 t freshly ground black pepper
The sweet and savory combination is yummy. I let it marinade at least 12 hours.
Edited to add: I use a roasted garlic olive oil, so I only use 1 clove of minced fresh garlic instead of 2.
You can also substitute red wine or balsamic vinegar for the ACV.3 -
This recipe sounds delicious!snickerscharlie wrote: »
1/3 cup olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
1/3 cup soy sauce
1/2 cup honey
1/2 t freshly ground black pepper
You can also substitute red wine or balsamic vinegar for the ACV. But I won't substitute. . Honey is sugar, and toxic. I will need the ACV to cleanse my liver afterwards. 6 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »
Especially when something tastes as nasty as ACV does. I call it the Mea Culpa Syndrome - people choke it down and then think, "Wow! I just did something good for my body!" Atonement for their previous (and usually current) dietary 'sins.'
If it tastes like crap, it *has* to be doing good stuff, right? LOL
I know I'm weird, but I actually like the stuff.
Still on the side of "does nothing magical for weight loss", though.
Yes, you *are* weird about that, but it's your only flaw so...
I *did* try it a few years ago when all of the hubbub about it first surfaced.
Happened to have a bottle in the fridge (it's one of the ingredients for a fabulous flank steak marinade I make, but I digress) so I poured myself a bit and downed it. Thought I was gonna die. To me, it tasted like pure bile in a shot glass.
The good news is I was on the verge of puking for the next few hours, so likely lost weight because I skipped lunch.
I need this recipe, please! @snickerscharlie
Here you go:
1/3 cup olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
1/3 cup soy sauce
1/2 cup honey
1/2 t freshly ground black pepper
The sweet and savory combination is yummy. I let it marinade at least 12 hours.
Edited to add: I use a roasted garlic olive oil, so I only use 1 clove of minced fresh garlic instead of 2.
You can also substitute red wine or balsamic vinegar for the ACV.
Thank you. I normally make the Betty Crocker cookbook recipe with lemon juice, garlic and assorted herbs, but this sounds great. Yay, ACV!0 -
French_Peasant wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »
Especially when something tastes as nasty as ACV does. I call it the Mea Culpa Syndrome - people choke it down and then think, "Wow! I just did something good for my body!" Atonement for their previous (and usually current) dietary 'sins.'
If it tastes like crap, it *has* to be doing good stuff, right? LOL
I know I'm weird, but I actually like the stuff.
Still on the side of "does nothing magical for weight loss", though.
Yes, you *are* weird about that, but it's your only flaw so...
I *did* try it a few years ago when all of the hubbub about it first surfaced.
Happened to have a bottle in the fridge (it's one of the ingredients for a fabulous flank steak marinade I make, but I digress) so I poured myself a bit and downed it. Thought I was gonna die. To me, it tasted like pure bile in a shot glass.
The good news is I was on the verge of puking for the next few hours, so likely lost weight because I skipped lunch.
I need this recipe, please! @snickerscharlie
Here you go:
1/3 cup olive oil
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
1/3 cup soy sauce
1/2 cup honey
1/2 t freshly ground black pepper
The sweet and savory combination is yummy. I let it marinade at least 12 hours.
Edited to add: I use a roasted garlic olive oil, so I only use 1 clove of minced fresh garlic instead of 2.
You can also substitute red wine or balsamic vinegar for the ACV.
Thank you. I normally make the Betty Crocker cookbook recipe with lemon juice, garlic and assorted herbs, but this sounds great. Yay, ACV!
I had to use up the bottle I had somehow! 2
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