Haters gonna hate. tired of the "1200 is not enough" speech
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Why be content to eat 1200 and then spend your life maintaining at 1500-1600-1700? What kind of life, in the long term, is that?
I mean, other than my worst nightmare.
A normal kind of life, with normal-sized portions. Not that it's not important to indulge in a meal out or ice cream every so often. But most days, at my height of 5'2ish, 1400 is really what I should be eating at a healthy weight from my height when I'm NOT dieting. This used to be common sense.
I'm really glad we live in a country where a short woman eating 1700 calories can be someone's worst nightmare.
Nightmares. Literal nightmares.
I'm a short woman (a whole inch taller than you) eating 1700+ to LOSE a pound a week. Why do you assume your 1400 to maintain is what is 'normal', as opposed to my ability to lose on more than that?
And just so we're clear I'm not obese or drastically overweight or amazing fit/active and thus need some ridiculous amount to maintain my weight.
Not to be argumentative or anything, but why are you so convinced that your calorie allowance should be hers?
What about age, activity level, etc. Those variables are an important part of the equation too. :huh:
I'm not convinced my intake should be her intake, but I am convinced that there is no reason to maintain on 1400 assuming you aren't 4 feet tall OR have some manner of medical condition that precludes from all form of activity including moving from room to room. A toddler (Ages 2-4) needs roughly a thousand calories a day but a grown woman is saying that she can't eat more than 1400 or she gains weight. Which may be true, but why in the world would you be content to eat barely more than a toddler to maintain your weight? Doesn't that seem like something that should be...I don't know, addressed?
And that's my point. Sure you can lose on 1200 and maybe you can only eat 1500 or else you gain weight, but why in the world are you okay with that? Why does that seem like an 'okay' way to go through life?
And of course activity level is a factor, which is why I stress that I am sedentary. I literally spend all but maybe 2 of my waking hours on the computer or couch. It doesn't get much more sedentary than that.
But. I suppose fundamentally if that's what makes people happy in life than whatever. I would never be happy eating such a small amount and so that will never be my life. If the only way I could lose my last 14 pounds was by eating at 1200 I'd opt to stay right where I am. I will say no more on the matter.0 -
I eat 1100-1200 (when I'm dieting) and people are always "yada yada yada STARVATION MODE!" I'm so sick of it.
Before giving your opinion learn a little about the person you are giving your opinion to. Not all of us are 6'2 and have a TDEE of 2400.
My TDEE is 1600/1700. I have a 400 calorie deficit, probably most of you have a much bigger deficit than I do.
Stop demonizing 1200 calories and learn that it ALL depends on how tall, fat, active you are. Seriously some threads sound like broken records. Read a little before saying the "you are eating too little blablabla"
I remember a woman saying she ate 800-900 and like 3 pages of people saying she was pretty much an idiot for doing that. She stated in her topic that she had surgery to lose weight and thats her maximum calories because her stomach is super small and nobody even read that, they were too preocupied to say she was not eating enough.
That's it. Please, READ the topics and learn a little about the person before saying the you are eating few calories speech because it does not always apply
PS: First language is not english, I'm from Chile and speak spanish so any grammer mistakes I apologize.
So many people want to judge and not help. Makes me sick!!!0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
Your deficit should be around 15-20% of your TDEE, which is nowhere near 1200 calories...and that's assuming you're not doing any exercise, ever.0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
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Which is completely irrelevant to the point of this entire thread.0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
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Which is completely irrelevant to the point of this entire thread.
It's not. She used herself as an example before explaining that it annoys her that people don't read before offering advice. She stated that she eats around 1100 calories due to her own unique height and weight measurements. I went ahead and used her information to offer advice. I actually read her entire post, I guess you're the one who didn't.0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
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Which is completely irrelevant to the point of this entire thread.
It's not. She used herself as an example before explaining that it annoys her that people don't read before offering advice. She stated that she eats around 1100 calories due to her own unique height and weight measurements. I went ahead and used her information to offer advice. I actually read her entire post, I guess you're the one who didn't.
Actually...that wasn't the point of this thread. It's about reading comprehension, not the 1200 calorie goal.
ETA: If you go back and read page 1 and page 12, you'll see that this is true. :flowerforyou:0 -
Very negative!! I thought this was a site where people support each other... wow.
It's a fitness site, not a support group.
Well that's real wrong! What do you think the Community boards are for?0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
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Which is completely irrelevant to the point of this entire thread.
It's not. She used herself as an example before explaining that it annoys her that people don't read before offering advice. She stated that she eats around 1100 calories due to her own unique height and weight measurements. I went ahead and used her information to offer advice. I actually read her entire post, I guess you're the one who didn't.
Actually...that wasn't the point of this thread. It's about reading comprehension, not the 1200 calorie goal.
ETA: If you go back and read page 1 and page 12, you'll see that this is true. :flowerforyou:I eat 1100-1200 (when I'm dieting) and people are always "yada yada yada STARVATION MODE!" I'm so sick of it.
Before giving your opinion learn a little about the person you are giving your opinion to. Not all of us are 6'2 and have a TDEE of 2400.
My TDEE is 1600/1700. I have a 400 calorie deficit, probably most of you have a much bigger deficit than I do.
Stop demonizing 1200 calories and learn that it ALL depends on how tall, fat, active you are. Seriously some threads sound like broken records. Read a little before saying the "you are eating too little blablabla"
Here's a reminder, just for you!0 -
Sorry OP, had to.
Here is OP's height, age and current weight with no exercise.
**pic edited out
Which is completely irrelevant to the point of this entire thread.
It's not. She used herself as an example before explaining that it annoys her that people don't read before offering advice. She stated that she eats around 1100 calories due to her own unique height and weight measurements. I went ahead and used her information to offer advice. I actually read her entire post, I guess you're the one who didn't.
Actually...that wasn't the point of this thread. It's about reading comprehension, not the 1200 calorie goal.
ETA: If you go back and read page 1 and page 12, you'll see that this is true. :flowerforyou:I eat 1100-1200 (when I'm dieting) and people are always "yada yada yada STARVATION MODE!" I'm so sick of it.
Before giving your opinion learn a little about the person you are giving your opinion to. Not all of us are 6'2 and have a TDEE of 2400.
My TDEE is 1600/1700. I have a 400 calorie deficit, probably most of you have a much bigger deficit than I do.
Stop demonizing 1200 calories and learn that it ALL depends on how tall, fat, active you are. Seriously some threads sound like broken records. Read a little before saying the "you are eating too little blablabla"
Here's a reminder, just for you!
I don't need a reminder. Here's a reminder for you. op's first language is not English and even so, many people don't make their points clear. But OP herself stated that the thread was not about the 1200 calorie goal, but about how people don't actually fully read and comprehend what someone is saying.
Her post was about someone coming down on another because they didn't read that the OP had just had gastric surgery. She put her stats to show that she is okay at 1200 to try to show that sometimes people don't realize that just because she says 1200 doesn't mean she's eating ONLY 1200. (she's netting it from what she said later on by the way)
As I said, it wasn't well put out..but it was the point of the thread. NOT whether 1200 is okay or not.0 -
Hahahaha! I think the starvation mode thing is totally crap, too- at least it is for me personally. The only thing that seems to work for me to lose weight- fat- is to consistently have net calories under 1000, i.e. eat 1200-1300 and burn around 300cal through exercise. I don't lose weight simply working out. I don't lose weight simply cutting back on portions. I only lose weight when I eat fewer calories and get in consistent exercise. I'm no even going to wade through all of the pages of responses, but I did want to reply to the OP. My BMR is 1495 and TDEE is 1795. Whenever I regularly eat 1500cal/day or more- even with my exercising- I gain weight. I have to do what works for me and quit being in denial.0
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.0
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
This is so false0 -
People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Or the "right" way actually turns out to be the right way, and they want others to be as successful as they have been.
Or they lost the wrong way, and they want others to be saved the hassle of going through what they went through.
Or they just want other people to be healthy. What horrible people they must be.0 -
People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
I was gonna say something mean. But instead I'll just say: Yeah. You totally caught me. I'm very jealous of people who eat what basically amounts to 1.5 meals less than me. Darn, if only I could eat 1200 calories and race to the weight loss finish line as well. If only I could be as successful as you, for example.
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Did you know that 1200 is not enough?0 -
People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Or the "right" way actually turns out to be the right way, and they want others to be as successful as they have been.
Or they lost the wrong way, and they want others to be saved the hassle of going through what they went through.
Or they just want other people to be healthy. What horrible people they must be.
love your rusty pic! happy little trees! :flowerforyou:0 -
People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
lolwut?0 -
I lost weight on less than 1200 and I have lost weight up to 1700. Much of it for me depends on expenditure. So if I am working out hard and often, I can eat more. That, I like.0
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Ummm...who here is aware that the OP's point actually had NOTHING to really do with the 1200 calorie goal?
Anyone?
Bueller? Bueller?
Lack of reading comprehension in a thread about reading comprehension?
Classic MFP.
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
:blushing: darn it you caught me. i am so embarrassed. i feel so silly. I have wasted so much of my time being jealous of those who are full after eating 1200 calories. oh whoa is me oh whoa is me.0 -
lol yes, how terrible. I must go weep now. Over chocolate protein pancakes in coconut oil with peanut butter and avocado and 10hr smoked BBQ pulled pork and salads with nuts and goat cheese and deserts *weep*People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
lolwut?
btw the desert was so good there were tears of joy0 -
I eat 800 calories and my weight is stalled! I am 5'8 and weigh 249......I did have gastric sleeve....I dont want my hair to fall out...and I know I should INCREASE my food intake as well...0
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People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Or the "right" way actually turns out to be the right way, and they want others to be as successful as they have been.
Or they lost the wrong way, and they want others to be saved the hassle of going through what they went through.
Or they just want other people to be healthy. What horrible people they must be.
love your rusty pic! happy little trees! :flowerforyou:
Thank you!0 -
A couple of weeks ago, I was new to the forums and one posting about netting less than 1200. Personally, I am grateful for those that contributed as it allowed me to see different perspectives and get an idea of where I need to be. Some people came across harsh (though sometimes words on a computer screen seem that way) but their intentions were to be helpful.
I am 5'2". Currently 126 lbs with a goal weight of 115. I am very active - workout 6 days a week with an average calorie burn of 400-500 daily PLUS weight lifting. I was consistently netting approx. 900 calories. I felt fine and was losing weight. I put some thought into what others had suggested, ran the calculators available online (BMR is 1251 and TDEE is 1700-1800), and decided to increase my calories to a steady 1400-1500 and just not even worry about exercise calories. This was my first week at these numbers. I found my performance at the gym has been incredible. My mood is improved (though I never even realized I was grumpy). I lost 1 pound, but more than that I can actually SEE a difference - lost an inch in my waist and hips. I finally feel like I am at the right numbers for me - thanks to the people that helped me with their comments. I don't feel like they were haters! (Though maybe the thought crossed my mind when reading it. lol)0 -
People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
You are right . * flex in front of the mirror, put on size 2 pants, eat 1200 calories for diner* you are so so right.0 -
Ha - exactly!People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
You are right . * flex in front of the mirror, put on size 2 pants, eat 1200 calories for diner* you are so so right.
Yeah, I was real jealous eating lower calories, losing weight quickly, and loving my smaller yet still soft and squishy self, in my new size 8 pants. NOT. :noway:
I'll stick with eating more calories, losing FAT, keeping my muscles, and enjoying my much firmer body in my new size 2 & 4 (depending on brand) pants, thankyouverymuch.
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I'm jealous of people who don't even eat half as much as I do.People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Sounds legit.0 -
Very negative!! I thought this was a site where people support each other... wow.
It's a fitness site, not a support group.
Well that's real wrong! What do you think the Community boards are for?
Interaction, advice, ideas... community interaction. There is a support section within the site but the entire site is not dedicated to hand holding, kudos and ignoring bad information.
Also, the name of the site was my biggest tip off: My Fitness Pal, not My Support Pal0 -
I'm jealous of people who don't even eat half as much as I do.People who say 1200 is not enough are either still overweight or they lost or are losing weight the "right way" (slower) but are jealous because other people have found success losing weight faster at 1200 without any ill effects.
Sounds legit.
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