Yup. Hit Scream Weight.
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I knew it was coming, but today was the day. My goal weight is 125 (5-7”f) which I hit last Feb. Late summer creeped up to 135, over winter hit 145. Today, BAM! 150, the weight I said I would never see again. Technically, this doesn’t even belong in this thread, but you are my people. Yes, I know what needs to happen, but implementation is yet be seen. I do have incentive with a vacation in 45 days and no summer clothes that fit.
Hell yes it does. It's a part of maintenance. Most don't ever stay on the nose at goal weight 100%. It's a see-saw. We lose balance. Then when we notice, we have to correct. Large length between the waves maybe, but it's still quite normal.
I'm busy re-balancing my see-saw right now, too. Ultra-pissy about it but it's not the first time and won't be the last.
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I’m pretty sure this forum has the best people in the world. I wish I could come hug every last one of you. Thanks for talking me off the ledge.31
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SummerSkier wrote: »pierinifitness wrote: »I recently reflected on my past of falling off my lean and mean pony (am now back on it) and wrote this:
“But, along the way, those who are part of my life must have seen a change taking place as my previous chisel was evaporating in thin air right before their eyes. Why didn’t they say anything? Were they in denial too? Or, were they trying to be my “friend” and not want to hurt my feelings? Talk about the weather or engage in small talk like, “How about them Raiders!”
I’m not sure but do know this, none of my “friends” or “acquaintances” said one word, their silence was deafening, to which I say, “thanks but please, no thanks the next time.”
Next time, please, tell me when my hair is on fire.”
Ah.... but would you have listened or perhaps been hurt by their comments?
I see folks around me who have fallen off the wagon at work (esp after lap band surgery or other types of very noticeable weight loss) and really think that it would be inappropriate to comment to them. Surely they already know. What would be the best way to help them?
Good question, thanks for asking. I'm sure I might have initial "hurt" of some type but if I really thought it through, I'd be grateful. Of course, delivery is important. I remember watching a YouTube video, one of those amazing transformation ones, where this guy, now chiseled but fat as can be before, shared how his lady significant other, one morning told him that she was really concerned about his wellness. I'm sure she said it in a kind and loving way. Regardless, it was a defining moment for him.
But, with regard to me and my hurt, knowing my personality, that hurt would be mad and mad would be a call to action. Now maybe that call to action was right around the corner anyway, I'll never know. But, I would certainly appreciate a dear friend or acquaintance that would have the braveness to step outside their comfort zone and say the obvious. My two cents but I'm a dude, an older one, with thick skin. I know I definitely would not have cried. Dudes don't do that, they just get pissed and want to fix the situation.
Thanks for your good question.
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Totally get it. In maintenance for 5+ years. Hit my scream weight, which to me means that I have to get right back to my range. But I bypassed it. Now it's only a bypass by two pounds, but I know that slippery slope all too well. And it's really 5 lbs. in you look at the bottom of my range. AND it's been on for 4 months, so I know it's not going to be easy to lose. 5 lbs. over a range on a 5'0" lady is a lot. Been kidding myself for too long, so got started again a few weeks ago. You know what to do, as do I. I'm back to my weight loss calories, and it's coming off slowly. Refuse to Regain, as the book says. (Good book if you haven't read it.) Good news is that we all have been there and we all know that we need to be alert. Bad news is that I hope you don't beat yourself up. Get back on the horse ... it's lifelong journey for us!
@jrwms714 I also want to thank you for mentioning Refuse to Regain.
I’m either at GW or close, mostly maintaining the past few months. And this book has some really great insights.
My current manta is “Be on Offense, not Defense.” I used to call this, “Insure Your Success” but I like the concept of actively being on the offense to retain our new, great health! Worth fighting for. Thank you!3 -
pierinifitness wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »pierinifitness wrote: »I recently reflected on my past of falling off my lean and mean pony (am now back on it) and wrote this:
“But, along the way, those who are part of my life must have seen a change taking place as my previous chisel was evaporating in thin air right before their eyes. Why didn’t they say anything? Were they in denial too? Or, were they trying to be my “friend” and not want to hurt my feelings? Talk about the weather or engage in small talk like, “How about them Raiders!”
I’m not sure but do know this, none of my “friends” or “acquaintances” said one word, their silence was deafening, to which I say, “thanks but please, no thanks the next time.”
Next time, please, tell me when my hair is on fire.”
Ah.... but would you have listened or perhaps been hurt by their comments? I see folks around me who have fallen off the wagon at work (esp after lap band surgery or other types of very noticeable weight loss) and really think that it would be inappropriate to comment to them. Surely they already know. What would be the best way to help them?
Good question, thanks for asking. I'm sure I might have initial "hurt" of some type but if I really thought it through, I'd be grateful. Of course, delivery is important. I remember watching a YouTube video, one of those amazing transformation ones, where this guy, now chiseled but fat as can be before, shared how his lady significant other, one morning told him that she was really concerned about his wellness. I'm sure she said it in a kind and loving way. Regardless, it was a defining moment for him.
But, with regard to me and my hurt, knowing my personality, that hurt would be mad and mad would be a call to action. Now maybe that call to action was right around the corner anyway, I'll never know. But, I would certainly appreciate a dear friend or acquaintance that would have the braveness to step outside their comfort zone and say the obvious. My two cents but I'm a dude, an older one, with thick skin. I know I definitely would not have cried. Dudes don't do that, they just get pissed and want to fix the situation.
Thanks for your good question.
I did point out to my husband when I noticed him gaining a lot (for him, he's always been slender), just because it seemed unlike him. Basically he'd started a new desk job and took the bus, so not his usual walking. As soon as he started walking again, slightly looked after his nutrition, and did some occasional fitness videos at home, he lost it and then a little more. He was a little offended at first but I think he was grateful I said something.
I wouldn't point it out to anyone else though if I noticed them gaining, I don't think. It's different when it's the dude you've been with half your life.5 -
Good lesson for me.
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@MadisonMolly2017 : You're welcome for the book. There are a few things that I don't agree with, but overall, it really speaks to me. I reread it when I am battling my range. She also has a blog that you can subscribe to, but it comes very rarely, which may even be a good thing. She is one of the few people who speaks to how I am choosing to do my maintenance over the past 5+ years. Enjoy!0
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I’m pretty sure this forum has the best people in the world. I wish I could come hug every last one of you. Thanks for talking me off the ledge.
Hugs!MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »Totally get it. In maintenance for 5+ years. Hit my scream weight, which to me means that I have to get right back to my range. But I bypassed it. Now it's only a bypass by two pounds, but I know that slippery slope all too well. And it's really 5 lbs. in you look at the bottom of my range. AND it's been on for 4 months, so I know it's not going to be easy to lose. 5 lbs. over a range on a 5'0" lady is a lot. Been kidding myself for too long, so got started again a few weeks ago. You know what to do, as do I. I'm back to my weight loss calories, and it's coming off slowly. Refuse to Regain, as the book says. (Good book if you haven't read it.) Good news is that we all have been there and we all know that we need to be alert. Bad news is that I hope you don't beat yourself up. Get back on the horse ... it's lifelong journey for us!
@jrwms714 I also want to thank you for mentioning Refuse to Regain.
I’m either at GW or close, mostly maintaining the past few months. And this book has some really great insights.
My current manta is “Be on Offense, not Defense.” I used to call this, “Insure Your Success” but I like the concept of actively being on the offense to retain our new, great health! Worth fighting for. Thank you!
Read the book. Good advice about being vigilant, but the "primatarian" diet might just be too restrictive in the real world.
**edit** dr. Berkeley still insist that the insulin hypothesis to weight gain is correct.0 -
Been there! Getting back on the wagon and losing the weight is always hard but after a few days it will feel normal again. The good thing is, you already know what to do.3
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collectingblues wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »pierinifitness wrote: »I recently reflected on my past of falling off my lean and mean pony (am now back on it) and wrote this:
“But, along the way, those who are part of my life must have seen a change taking place as my previous chisel was evaporating in thin air right before their eyes. Why didn’t they say anything? Were they in denial too? Or, were they trying to be my “friend” and not want to hurt my feelings? Talk about the weather or engage in small talk like, “How about them Raiders!”
I’m not sure but do know this, none of my “friends” or “acquaintances” said one word, their silence was deafening, to which I say, “thanks but please, no thanks the next time.”
Next time, please, tell me when my hair is on fire.”
Ah.... but would you have listened or perhaps been hurt by their comments? I see folks around me who have fallen off the wagon at work (esp after lap band surgery or other types of very noticeable weight loss) and really think that it would be inappropriate to comment to them. Surely they already know. What would be the best way to help them?
This. I wouldn't dream of saying anything to someone to I know who has gained back noticeable weight. I've always figured that they already know, and that I'm just rubbing salt in the wound if I say "Hey, you gained the weight back."
I agree, I would never say anything either. We are all in different places in life. If someone who was previously chiseled and had the body of a greek god was starting to gain weight, I would never think to say something about it. For all I know, they just don't care anymore. There is more to life after all. Or even if they did care, surely they have a mirror and me saying something doesn't do any good.4 -
Every winter I gain weight. Every spring, I lose it. Comfort food and a warm house when it's deadly cold outside will put the pounds on me real quick.8
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So this can be turned into a positive discussion for us maintainers I think. What are the traps we fall into and how do we avoid them? Would be interesting to hear from OP what happened after being successful so long. I do see a lot of "MFP" returnees who are successful and then 3-5 yrs are back again with the same to lose or more. I know I qualify having lost weight here in 2011/12 successfully and then had to return again in 2017. I did learn that this time I needed to focus on maintaining and what my plan would be from the very start.6
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For me, the times I've ended up gaining weight back, I just got comfortable not watching what I eat, indulging in whatever I want, all the time, and not keeping track of my weight. It's just too nice to be able to eat what I want, when I want, without a care in the world.10
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ugh been there done that
got down to 130 before i knew it..ok maybe i stopped counting cals and weighing in..but creeped to 153
Im back down to 137... (Im 5'8)
When i saw that number i was sooooooo mad at myself..but that didnt help anything
Like you, I mainly did it because NONE of my clothes fit...but heck..whatever push you need...
You got this!!
Good luck kim
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For me, the times I've ended up gaining weight back, I just got comfortable not watching what I eat, indulging in whatever I want, all the time, and not keeping track of my weight. It's just too nice to be able to eat what I want, when I want, without a care in the world.
^This. I lost about 28 pounds in 2012 and it was delightful not to have to log and count calories anymore. I was so over it. Maintained for a bit and then gained about 10 pounds back. Not a lot, but I think the first time I lost a fair amount of muscle and what I gained back was fat, so it looks awful.
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SummerSkier wrote: »So this can be turned into a positive discussion for us maintainers I think. What are the traps we fall into and how do we avoid them? Would be interesting to hear from OP what happened after being successful so long. I do see a lot of "MFP" returnees who are successful and then 3-5 yrs are back again with the same to lose or more. I know I qualify having lost weight here in 2011/12 successfully and then had to return again in 2017. I did learn that this time I needed to focus on maintaining and what my plan would be from the very start.
Honestly, I just let it creep up on me. I’ve logged and weighed daily. I knew my intake was over maintenance and I knew my weight was increasing. I just ignored it and figured a few pounds was no big deal. Right up until my pants didn’t button and I had to go from a 2 to a 4 to a 6. Which is the biggest size I kept. I wish I could say there was some dramatic reason, but it was really just loosening up the reins and putting my head in the sand for 6 months.11 -
SummerSkier wrote: »So this can be turned into a positive discussion for us maintainers I think. What are the traps we fall into and how do we avoid them? Would be interesting to hear from OP what happened after being successful so long. I do see a lot of "MFP" returnees who are successful and then 3-5 yrs are back again with the same to lose or more. I know I qualify having lost weight here in 2011/12 successfully and then had to return again in 2017. I did learn that this time I needed to focus on maintaining and what my plan would be from the very start.
Honestly, I just let it creep up on me. I’ve logged and weighed daily. I knew my intake was over maintenance and I knew my weight was increasing. I just ignored it and figured a few pounds was no big deal. Right up until my pants didn’t button and I had to go from a 2 to a 4 to a 6. Which is the biggest size I kept. I wish I could say there was some dramatic reason, but it was really just loosening up the reins and putting my head in the sand for 6 months.
I am on my own adventure in a way. I only ask because I have read some of your feeds. Is your over eating due to hunger? Lack of satiety? Or just hedonistic reasons? Not asking to be a "@$$#0/e, just curious.5 -
psychod787 wrote: »I’m pretty sure this forum has the best people in the world. I wish I could come hug every last one of you. Thanks for talking me off the ledge.
Hugs!MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »Totally get it. In maintenance for 5+ years. Hit my scream weight, which to me means that I have to get right back to my range. But I bypassed it. Now it's only a bypass by two pounds, but I know that slippery slope all too well. And it's really 5 lbs. in you look at the bottom of my range. AND it's been on for 4 months, so I know it's not going to be easy to lose. 5 lbs. over a range on a 5'0" lady is a lot. Been kidding myself for too long, so got started again a few weeks ago. You know what to do, as do I. I'm back to my weight loss calories, and it's coming off slowly. Refuse to Regain, as the book says. (Good book if you haven't read it.) Good news is that we all have been there and we all know that we need to be alert. Bad news is that I hope you don't beat yourself up. Get back on the horse ... it's lifelong journey for us!
@jrwms714 I also want to thank you for mentioning Refuse to Regain.
I’m either at GW or close, mostly maintaining the past few months. And this book has some really great insights.
My current manta is “Be on Offense, not Defense.” I used to call this, “Insure Your Success” but I like the concept of actively being on the offense to retain our new, great health! Worth fighting for. Thank you!
Read the book. Good advice about being vigilant, but the "primatarian" diet might just be too restrictive in the real world.
**edit** dr. Berkeley still insist that the insulin hypothesis to weight gain is correct.
I read a slight blurb about her and it said she is a proponent of the "primatarian" diet, that we should eat how they did back in the stone ages...
The problem with it is that back in the stone ages, didn't they live for only 20 years?
Also they walked or ran everywhere. Plus they wanted to be fat, they wanted to have extra weight to hold them during the lean times.
How is any of that a plus for losing weight?
Now I'll say I've not read the book, I'm 50# away for having to worry about maintaining, maybe I'll read the book and love everything she says, but I doubt it......2 -
SummerSkier wrote: »So this can be turned into a positive discussion for us maintainers I think. What are the traps we fall into and how do we avoid them? Would be interesting to hear from OP what happened after being successful so long. I do see a lot of "MFP" returnees who are successful and then 3-5 yrs are back again with the same to lose or more. I know I qualify having lost weight here in 2011/12 successfully and then had to return again in 2017. I did learn that this time I needed to focus on maintaining and what my plan would be from the very start.
Honestly, I just let it creep up on me. I’ve logged and weighed daily. I knew my intake was over maintenance and I knew my weight was increasing. I just ignored it and figured a few pounds was no big deal. Right up until my pants didn’t button and I had to go from a 2 to a 4 to a 6. Which is the biggest size I kept. I wish I could say there was some dramatic reason, but it was really just loosening up the reins and putting my head in the sand for 6 months.
Relates so much.
I just stopped wearing my skinny pants. Then my jeans...because I knew if I put them on I couldn't breathe in them. Head in the sand. Then I saw a pic of me my daughter took. Smack in the face. No more of that!6 -
@psychod787 in 2018 I went whole food plant based and dropped 10# in a month (not intentionally, just worked that way). I stuck with it in the purest form for 6 months and my weight held very steady. When I started adding vegan junk food (cookies, ice cream, crackers, etc) my weight started climbing. Despite logging and tracking — probably much less accurately. Around December when the piles of cookies and candy hit the office, I lost control. Abandoned the vegan diet, added some wine, hit the office candy dish hard. in January and when winter dragged on, I continued to overeat, and with pasta, not broccoli. It just all added up. Literally.19
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we are human and can definitely get carried away with good food. I keep having talks with myself, saying you will feel guilty and sad stepping on that scale in the morning. I have to love myself! Seems to be working.4
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psychod787 wrote: »I’m pretty sure this forum has the best people in the world. I wish I could come hug every last one of you. Thanks for talking me off the ledge.
Hugs!MadisonMolly2017 wrote: »Totally get it. In maintenance for 5+ years. Hit my scream weight, which to me means that I have to get right back to my range. But I bypassed it. Now it's only a bypass by two pounds, but I know that slippery slope all too well. And it's really 5 lbs. in you look at the bottom of my range. AND it's been on for 4 months, so I know it's not going to be easy to lose. 5 lbs. over a range on a 5'0" lady is a lot. Been kidding myself for too long, so got started again a few weeks ago. You know what to do, as do I. I'm back to my weight loss calories, and it's coming off slowly. Refuse to Regain, as the book says. (Good book if you haven't read it.) Good news is that we all have been there and we all know that we need to be alert. Bad news is that I hope you don't beat yourself up. Get back on the horse ... it's lifelong journey for us!
@jrwms714 I also want to thank you for mentioning Refuse to Regain.
I’m either at GW or close, mostly maintaining the past few months. And this book has some really great insights.
My current manta is “Be on Offense, not Defense.” I used to call this, “Insure Your Success” but I like the concept of actively being on the offense to retain our new, great health! Worth fighting for. Thank you!
Read the book. Good advice about being vigilant, but the "primatarian" diet might just be too restrictive in the real world.
**edit** dr. Berkeley still insist that the insulin hypothesis to weight gain is correct.
@psychod787 I am!
I have low blood glucose - 69 last time
Low bp 106/70
Low pulse 56
I do think some of her statements aren’t true for me.
However, much of the book is helpful!1 -
@nowine4me - you are one of my favorite posters on MFP. Your OP definitely belongs here with us, your people.
I was thinking of starting a “challenge” for maintainers only to get back to maintenance range. I think we have a different mentality about the process ... and many of us know each other from being on this particular forum.
Would there be an interest if we created an accountability thread specific to maintainers trying to get back to maintenance? Maybe a focus on small goals like 2-4 lbs a month loss and nsv celebrations?13 -
@nowine4me - you are one of my favorite posters on MFP. Your OP definitely belongs here with us, your people.
I was thinking of starting a “challenge” for maintainers only to get back to maintenance range. I think we have a different mentality about the process ... and many of us know each other from being on this particular forum.
Would there be an interest if we created an accountability thread specific to maintainers trying to get back to maintenance? Maybe a focus on small goals like 2-4 lbs a month loss and nsv celebrations?
Great idea @sofchak
I'm in 6th year of maintenance and struggle lately to stay at the middle of my goal range rather than the lower end, its only a few pounds but still a struggle.
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This is exactly what happened to me. And exactly why, 2 lbs. over my range, I am pulling the reins back in. It's not 2, really, it's 4, if you don't figure in goal weight, and not just look at range. And 4 lbs. on a 5'0" is a LOT, enough to change a size. While my intake was rarely over maintenance, and sometimes less, I ignored those 2 lbs. and now they are very hard to get off. They've been around for a while and they want to stay. Plus I am 5 years older than I was when I reached goal, and I think it just gets harder as we get older. The important thing is to stay in the game and keep on being aware. @SummerSkier , head in the sand is right! So I'm doing my best to take my head out of there ... sounds like you are, too. Important for all of us maintainers to never think we're done.SummerSkier wrote: »
Honestly, I just let it creep up on me. I’ve logged and weighed daily. I knew my intake was over maintenance and I knew my weight was increasing. I just ignored it and figured a few pounds was no big deal. Right up until my pants didn’t button and I had to go from a 2 to a 4 to a 6. Which is the biggest size I kept. I wish I could say there was some dramatic reason, but it was really just loosening up the reins and putting my head in the sand for 6 months.
Good post, OP, and good discussion!!!
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[quote=I was thinking of starting a “challenge” for maintainers only to get back to maintenance range. I think we have a different mentality about the process ... and many of us know each other from being on this particular forum.
Would there be an interest if we created an accountability thread specific to maintainers trying to get back to maintenance? Maybe a focus on small goals like 2-4 lbs a month loss and nsv celebrations?[/quote]
Great idea @sofchak
I'm in 6th year of maintenance and struggle lately to stay at the middle of my goal range rather than the lower end, its only a few pounds but still a struggle.
~Ruth[/quote]
I like that idea too, @sofchak . Haven't been on here much lately b/c needed something different ... this could be it. And yes, some of us know each other from years of being on here. The only thing that doesn't work for me is logging every lbs. and daily or weekly goals. Discussions and suggestions like this are what is valuable to me.
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Oops. Have to clarify. I do log daily for myself, and do use goals. I just don't find it helpful to do it in forums. That's only my preference. It may work for others.
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Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »And here you are, I remember you mocking me for only having 1200 cal daily to lose weight. Hah! So your volume eating not working so great I see.
Some people pretend like they know so much. Oh well... and we are not your people. Your not a leader yah know...
I don't think you're quite grasping what volume eating is about. Nor her 'you are my people' comment. Or else deliberately misunderstanding.
I think it's valuable and commendable to post here admitting she's struggling. It's easy to pretend you're perfect. A little more difficult to admit to stumbling a bit. Obviously, a lot of other people in this thread agree.31 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »And here you are, I remember you mocking me for only having 1200 cal daily to lose weight. Hah! So your volume eating not working so great I see.
Some people pretend like they know so much. Oh well... and we are not your people. Your not a leader yah know...
😐 how old are you? Like, you know, like 13? She is MY people.... you though are not.... get spent....20
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