WHY do people CHEAT?

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,028 Member
    nooshi713 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    nooshi713 wrote: »
    Many reasons but one thing is for sure and no one can convince me otherwise, is that if one cheats, then they don’t love their partner. Period.
    But couldn't love be subjective? One could be in love with more than one person at a time. With 7 billion people in the world, unless you've met everyone who was a potential spouse, how could one be 100% sure they chose the "forever" one?


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    Nope. You can’t be in love with more than in at a time. Those people don’t know what real love is.
    This might be the first time I disagree with you. Because NO ONE can define real love. They may have their ideas of what it may be, but again that's subjective. Honor in many societies plays a part of culture. And in many, certain actions will demand hard consequences including death regardless of how much one loves that person. And people would ask, how could you do that to someone you're supposed to love?

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  • ninerbuff
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    PAWGliacci wrote: »
    spend enough time with someone you love and eventually you're going to see the little things that you didn't notice at first

    maybe they drag the fork across their teeth while they're eating
    maybe they regularly forget to flush the toilet
    "not a morning person" and they take it out on you every morning
    etc etc. doesn't matter what these little things are, eventually you'll notice. now add years to the equation.

    I would argue that none of this is an excuse to leave the other person, especially if you've been together for many years. You make a commitment when you marry somebody. You take the good with the bad, and nobody is perfect.
    So even if you're UNHAPPY with this person the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you should stay committed?


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  • MeatVehicle
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    PAWGliacci wrote: »
    spend enough time with someone you love and eventually you're going to see the little things that you didn't notice at first

    maybe they drag the fork across their teeth while they're eating
    maybe they regularly forget to flush the toilet
    "not a morning person" and they take it out on you every morning
    etc etc. doesn't matter what these little things are, eventually you'll notice. now add years to the equation.

    I would argue that none of this is an excuse to leave the other person, especially if you've been together for many years. You make a commitment when you marry somebody. You take the good with the bad, and nobody is perfect.
    So even if you're UNHAPPY with this person the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you should stay committed?


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    Everyone, and I mean everyone will 1000% eventually find some little things they dislike about the other person. Are you gonna scrap the entire relationship over the minor hiccups?
  • ninerbuff
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    Soooooo not to come off like an a-hole, but....

    Monogamy is a recent invention. The majority of all human cultures have actually practice polygamy and many still do. Men and women have evolved for millions of years to seek lots of sex with many partners to ensure the survival of the species. The modern monogamous culture has only been around for just 1,000 years. 1000 years is nothing compared to how long evolution programmed us to hump everyone. This modern cultural and social norm has placed heavy objections on sex and sex practices and tires to make people suppress the need to have it.

    But I digress. Just be honest with your partner.

    PS: It's Hump Day. Stop asking for *kitten* pics you Neanderthals.
    Agree. Even back in Biblical times, polygamy was practiced and even mentioned in the Bible.
    And it's usually religion that has the impact on monogamy with many people in the world being religious.


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  • tmanfive
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    Maybe this should move over to debate? 🤷🏼‍♂️

    That would be fun to see.
  • MeatVehicle
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    PAWGliacci wrote: »
    spend enough time with someone you love and eventually you're going to see the little things that you didn't notice at first

    maybe they drag the fork across their teeth while they're eating
    maybe they regularly forget to flush the toilet
    "not a morning person" and they take it out on you every morning
    etc etc. doesn't matter what these little things are, eventually you'll notice. now add years to the equation.

    I would argue that none of this is an excuse to leave the other person, especially if you've been together for many years. You make a commitment when you marry somebody. You take the good with the bad, and nobody is perfect.
    So even if you're UNHAPPY with this person the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you should stay committed?


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    Everyone, and I mean everyone will 1000% eventually find some little things they dislike about the other person. Are you gonna scrap the entire relationship over the minor hiccups?
    I don't think you got what I said. If you had a spouse that continually berated you (even after discussing it bothers you) and doesn't believe you're the best person and say continually talks about others that you should be like, you're gonna take that for decades and be happy about it? Sorry man, but working in my business, I get an earful of very unhappy people in relationships all the time. And IMO, if they feel crapped upon by their spouse continually with no resolve, there's no reason to stay committed to that relationship. LIFE IS TOO SHORT. You CANNOT GET BACK TIME LOST. There are better ways to spend your life than to just put up with someone who doesn't appreciate nor really cares for you. There's a difference in just irritating behavior that's occasional and total disconcern.

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    That's some heavy stuff you got into. I thought we were just talking about the minor irritants.
  • ninerbuff
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    PAWGliacci wrote: »
    spend enough time with someone you love and eventually you're going to see the little things that you didn't notice at first

    maybe they drag the fork across their teeth while they're eating
    maybe they regularly forget to flush the toilet
    "not a morning person" and they take it out on you every morning
    etc etc. doesn't matter what these little things are, eventually you'll notice. now add years to the equation.

    I would argue that none of this is an excuse to leave the other person, especially if you've been together for many years. You make a commitment when you marry somebody. You take the good with the bad, and nobody is perfect.
    So even if you're UNHAPPY with this person the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you should stay committed?


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    Everyone, and I mean everyone will 1000% eventually find some little things they dislike about the other person. Are you gonna scrap the entire relationship over the minor hiccups?
    I don't think you got what I said. If you had a spouse that continually berated you (even after discussing it bothers you) and doesn't believe you're the best person and say continually talks about others that you should be like, you're gonna take that for decades and be happy about it? Sorry man, but working in my business, I get an earful of very unhappy people in relationships all the time. And IMO, if they feel crapped upon by their spouse continually with no resolve, there's no reason to stay committed to that relationship. LIFE IS TOO SHORT. You CANNOT GET BACK TIME LOST. There are better ways to spend your life than to just put up with someone who doesn't appreciate nor really cares for you. There's a difference in just irritating behavior that's occasional and total disconcern.

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    That's some heavy stuff you got into. I thought we were just talking about the minor irritants.
    I was refuting your statement of "making a commitment when you marry someone and taking the good with the bad". If the bad is really bad, how long do you stay in that commitment?


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  • ninerbuff
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    tmanfive wrote: »
    Maybe this should move over to debate? 🤷🏼‍♂️

    That would be fun to see.
    I agree. While we are the superior species in terms of intelligence (hopefully) on this planet, there are still instinctual things we retain and no man made laws usually will discourage it.

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  • MeatVehicle
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    edited July 2021
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  • JessD9031
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    That is pretty funny, and will probably get you a warning. It is a divisive topic.

    That being said, it made me laugh out loud at work. Luckily, I am W@H right now.
  • ninerbuff
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    NVintage wrote: »
    Always because of fear.. fear of hurting the other person or fear that they'll regret their decision if they leave, maybe fear of being alone.... I think working in a nursing home when I was young helped me a lot in that I realize life is too short to be with someone that you're not completely enamored with. I'd rather be straight with someone if I even start thinking about being with someone else, and give us both the freedom to guiltlessly pursue happiness elsewhere.
    I agree. But there are people out there that won't let people go because they just........won't.

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  • slimgirljo15
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    PAWGliacci wrote: »
    spend enough time with someone you love and eventually you're going to see the little things that you didn't notice at first

    maybe they drag the fork across their teeth while they're eating
    maybe they regularly forget to flush the toilet
    "not a morning person" and they take it out on you every morning
    etc etc. doesn't matter what these little things are, eventually you'll notice. now add years to the equation.

    I would argue that none of this is an excuse to leave the other person, especially if you've been together for many years. You make a commitment when you marry somebody. You take the good with the bad, and nobody is perfect.
    So even if you're UNHAPPY with this person the REST OF YOUR LIFE, you should stay committed?


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    Everyone, and I mean everyone will 1000% eventually find some little things they dislike about the other person. Are you gonna scrap the entire relationship over the minor hiccups?
    I don't think you got what I said. If you had a spouse that continually berated you (even after discussing it bothers you) and doesn't believe you're the best person and say continually talks about others that you should be like, you're gonna take that for decades and be happy about it? Sorry man, but working in my business, I get an earful of very unhappy people in relationships all the time. And IMO, if they feel crapped upon by their spouse continually with no resolve, there's no reason to stay committed to that relationship. LIFE IS TOO SHORT. You CANNOT GET BACK TIME LOST. There are better ways to spend your life than to just put up with someone who doesn't appreciate nor really cares for you. There's a difference in just irritating behavior that's occasional and total disconcern.

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    Yes, this is one of those 'life is too short' events. :) Everyone deserves the chance to be happy; life is too short not to be. And if you're truly not happy, physically/emotionally abused, have grown too far apart to ever find your way back, etc., etc., then find a way to be happy.
    Let's face it, dating is like being sold a car. It's all bright and shiny, everything's brand new, the salesman does a great job of selling. Then 2, 3, 8, whatever years down the road, you realize it was a huge mistake because you discover that car is drinking excessively or cracking jokes at your expense or never listening to a thing you say, beats the children or you, or you find you've lost yourself completely and no longer feel you matter to anyone......ok try to use my analogy the way it's intended cause I'm no good at those things. :) But really, people do change and sometimes in a dramatically worse way.
    I'm not saying that makes cheating the right thing to do and I'm not saying people should give up after a couple 'minor hiccups' but if love loss is evident, changes need to happen.
    Yep. And bad or non existant relationships don't only affect the 2 involved, but may affect children and their view of how a marriage is construed. I'm not a person who'll just settle. If I'm not getting something out of time and effort I put into something, then I'll move on. And that goes with anything I do in life.

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  • glassyo
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    edited July 2021
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    Looking for greener grass is pointless. Grass only gets greener with maintenance and care. If you find green grass you maintain it to keep it that way. If you can't do that then no matter the grass it will brown dry up.

    ...... the grass is always greener over the septic tank.

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  • Finishiitnow
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    Motorsheen wrote: »
    Well.... those rooms at the Holiday Inn Express ain't going to rent themselves.
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    Well.... those rooms at the Holiday Inn Express ain't going to rent themselves.[/quo
    😂😁

  • Minion_training_program
    Minion_training_program Posts: 13,440 Member
    According to an article I just read...
    We cheat to feel alive and to expand our sense of self desire....your thoughts???!!

    I cheat all the time...
    on my diet
  • Be_theBest_Me
    Be_theBest_Me Posts: 767 Member
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    Looking for greener grass is pointless. Grass only gets greener with maintenance and care. If you find green grass you maintain it to keep it that way. If you can't do that then no matter the grass it will brown dry up.

    ...... the grass is always greener over the septic tank.

    Now this is very true!!!
  • Be_theBest_Me
    Be_theBest_Me Posts: 767 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Looking for greener grass is pointless. Grass only gets greener with maintenance and care. If you find green grass you maintain it to keep it that way. If you can't do that then no matter the grass it will brown dry up.
    Again, unless you've met the 7 billion people on Earth face to face, how can you say that?
    If the "grass" you have at home, and it starts going bad and no amount of watering, fertilizing, care, etc. improves it, then either "resodding" or "renewing your lawn" is likely. It's NOT always about the caretaker though. There is such a thing as "bad grass".

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    I disagree. Grass doesn't go "bad" now if you start with a "weed" you can't turn that into grass. All you can do is pull the weeds and plant the grass!! You actually have to know what kind of grass you have the amount of water it needs the right time to cut it and the right time to let it grow. When to fertilize and feed your grass so that it stays lush and beautiful!!! I see it as I'm a lawn and so is my hubby!! We both gotta maintain the lawn and give it love and be there when it needs us. Took us time to pull all the weeds and plant the right grass!! I know I had a few weeds!! My husband had his work cut out for him. I was an undeveloped yard with a few sticks and clumps of green here and there. Now I'm a well manicured lawn that gets lots of attention!! I can promise as soon as you start looking for other grass yours will brown....that's a fact. Experience unfortunately......I learned the hard way. I looked and I realized I needed to pop my head outta my *kitten* and appreciate my grass!!!
  • Ironwoman1111
    Ironwoman1111 Posts: 3,913 Member
    edited July 2021
    Looking for greener grass is pointless. Grass only gets greener with maintenance and care. If you find green grass you maintain it to keep it that way. If you can't do that then no matter the grass it will brown dry up.

    ...... the grass is always greener over the septic tank.

    No it isn’t! Here’s a pic of mine.😆
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  • dlben007
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    To pass a school examination?
  • ninerbuff
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Looking for greener grass is pointless. Grass only gets greener with maintenance and care. If you find green grass you maintain it to keep it that way. If you can't do that then no matter the grass it will brown dry up.
    Again, unless you've met the 7 billion people on Earth face to face, how can you say that?
    If the "grass" you have at home, and it starts going bad and no amount of watering, fertilizing, care, etc. improves it, then either "resodding" or "renewing your lawn" is likely. It's NOT always about the caretaker though. There is such a thing as "bad grass".

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    I disagree. Grass doesn't go "bad" now if you start with a "weed" you can't turn that into grass. All you can do is pull the weeds and plant the grass!! You actually have to know what kind of grass you have the amount of water it needs the right time to cut it and the right time to let it grow. When to fertilize and feed your grass so that it stays lush and beautiful!!! I see it as I'm a lawn and so is my hubby!! We both gotta maintain the lawn and give it love and be there when it needs us. Took us time to pull all the weeds and plant the right grass!! I know I had a few weeds!! My husband had his work cut out for him. I was an undeveloped yard with a few sticks and clumps of green here and there. Now I'm a well manicured lawn that gets lots of attention!! I can promise as soon as you start looking for other grass yours will brown....that's a fact. Experience unfortunately......I learned the hard way. I looked and I realized I needed to pop my head outta my *kitten* and appreciate my grass!!!
    So you don't believe people can change over the years? That someone who may be really short tempered can become more patient and vice versa? It takes TWO to maintain a relationship and if one is unwilling, why should the other HAVE to keep watering that grass?

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  • michaelafoor916
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    Because we are not a pair-bonding species. If you look at divorce rates, or even better, the prevalence of cheating, it becomes very clear we may not be cut out for life long commitment to one person. Just hear me out, If half of all married couples divorce, do you say half of all married couples are defective, or that maybe marriage is a defect. Just food for thought, maybe its not people thats the problem, maybe it the expectations of people.

    this 100 *kitten* percent. i was pressured into getting married because "it's just what you do". if i could go back, i would have never done it. hind sight is 20/20.... maybe it works for some people, but clearly not all. unhappiness i think is a root cause in cheating. I have never, and would like to think i would never, cheat, but i'd be lying if i said it's never crossed my mind... think i'm dirt ball or whatever but i'm not in love and financially I can't live alone. Again... Unhappiness... ¯\_(x_x)_/¯