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  • iheartmyyorkie
    iheartmyyorkie Posts: 163 Member
    WinoGelato wrote: »
    Maybe we can agree we shouldn’t shame people for ANY of their food choices, whether they choose to cut something out or choose to enjoy a Big Mac or a bowl of chips....
    ...or a plate of ice cubes. :cold_sweat:
  • Joanna2012B
    Joanna2012B Posts: 1,448 Member
    just_Tomek wrote: »
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    A bowl of popcorn with chips crushed all over as a topping. YEsssssssssssssss.............
    Especially these.
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    Now you're talking!!!!!
  • missysippy930
    missysippy930 Posts: 2,577 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I’d choose the popcorn. I love popcorn!

    I just read that a guy ate a Big Mac every day for a month and lost 7 pounds. Just last month. He was eating 1500 calories a day, not just eating Big Macs
    5’4” he was posting on Instagram. Showing there are no bad foods. I think he was a personal trainer, or something like that.

    There's a difference between weight loss and health, however.

    Really?

    What’s healthier, being overweight or a normal weight?

    Depends on the person. Overweight increases risks it does not immediately guarantee bad health anymore than being normal weight will prevent or cure bad health.

    The exception is the physical structure like joints. If a person is more than moderately obese it is going to be hard on the framework but even that is not immediate if the person didn't have a pre-existing condition.

    Agreed.
    But generally speaking, being a healthy weight is better for overall health. There are exceptions and other factors that can, and do, enter in

  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,251 Member
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I’d choose the popcorn. I love popcorn!

    I just read that a guy ate a Big Mac every day for a month and lost 7 pounds. Just last month. He was eating 1500 calories a day, not just eating Big Macs
    5’4” he was posting on Instagram. Showing there are no bad foods. I think he was a personal trainer, or something like that.

    There's a difference between weight loss and health, however.

    Really?

    What’s healthier, being overweight or a normal weight?

    You're asking the wrong question.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Lobsterboxtops wrote: »
    Eating a Big Mac a day gives you plenty of room for higher nutrition foods. Is it the greatest thing to eat daily probably not...but It’s not the worst.

    Damn now I want a Big Mac. I’m not sure I even like them, it’s been probably 20 years since I had one. I think I need to get out of this thread since I managed to have chips for lunch based on the power of suggestion here 😀

    Your my hero! Lol
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I’d choose the popcorn. I love popcorn!

    I just read that a guy ate a Big Mac every day for a month and lost 7 pounds. Just last month. He was eating 1500 calories a day, not just eating Big Macs
    5’4” he was posting on Instagram. Showing there are no bad foods. I think he was a personal trainer, or something like that.

    What the guy proved was that if one eats fewer calories then you burn you lose weight, nothing more. Ask any any Registered Dietitian if a 1500 calorie a day diet that includes a Big Mac every day is sustainable for health.

    Instagram posts giving nutrition or exercise advice from someone who people think "was a personal trainer or something like that", IMO is not a good idea.

    Big Mac, per McD web site:

    540 Calories
    28 grams Total Fat
    46 grams Carbs
    25 grams Protein

    If a person really wanted to, they could fit one in every day, and get overall decent (healthy) nutrition on 1500 calories, IMO.

    Not me, though: I'm vegetarian. ;)

    I'm thinking a registed dierition would not agree with your conclusion long term IMO.

    I'm thinking you have no idea what a registered dietitian would think on this topic.

    You might want to go back and carefully read my comments. I said I doubted a dietitian would think a Big Mac daily was healthy long term, especially on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Heck the trainer mentioned above that ate a Big Mac daily for a month and lost weight said the following:

    "I don't want anybody doing this challenge," he said. "I do not think that this challenge is healthy. I don't think it's smart but sometimes you have to do something extreme in order to make a simple point."

    Syatt merely wanted to hammer that point home.

    "The whole point of it was to show people that you can include your favorite foods into your diet in moderation and not only not lose progress, but actually continue to make progress, because so many people worry about ruining their entire diet if they go off track for one meal, whatever it is."

    I would agree with the trainer, and I believe most dietitians would say that a Big Mac is an "occasional" food and not an everyday food.

    If you can cite something where an actual nutrition professional says a Big Mac a day is fine long term for one's health, please post as I would be interested in reading it.

    You kind of remind me of a guy on here @OldAssDude
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I’d choose the popcorn. I love popcorn!

    I just read that a guy ate a Big Mac every day for a month and lost 7 pounds. Just last month. He was eating 1500 calories a day, not just eating Big Macs
    5’4” he was posting on Instagram. Showing there are no bad foods. I think he was a personal trainer, or something like that.

    What the guy proved was that if one eats fewer calories then you burn you lose weight, nothing more. Ask any any Registered Dietitian if a 1500 calorie a day diet that includes a Big Mac every day is sustainable for health.

    Instagram posts giving nutrition or exercise advice from someone who people think "was a personal trainer or something like that", IMO is not a good idea.

    Big Mac, per McD web site:

    540 Calories
    28 grams Total Fat
    46 grams Carbs
    25 grams Protein

    If a person really wanted to, they could fit one in every day, and get overall decent (healthy) nutrition on 1500 calories, IMO.

    Not me, though: I'm vegetarian. ;)

    I'm thinking a registed dierition would not agree with your conclusion long term IMO.

    I'm thinking you have no idea what a registered dietitian would think on this topic.

    You might want to go back and carefully read my comments. I said I doubted a dietitian would think a Big Mac daily was healthy long term, especially on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Heck the trainer mentioned above that ate a Big Mac daily for a month and lost weight said the following:

    "I don't want anybody doing this challenge," he said. "I do not think that this challenge is healthy. I don't think it's smart but sometimes you have to do something extreme in order to make a simple point."

    Syatt merely wanted to hammer that point home.

    "The whole point of it was to show people that you can include your favorite foods into your diet in moderation and not only not lose progress, but actually continue to make progress, because so many people worry about ruining their entire diet if they go off track for one meal, whatever it is."

    I would agree with the trainer, and I believe most dietitians would say that a Big Mac is an "occasional" food and not an everyday food.

    If you can cite something where an actual nutrition professional says a Big Mac a day is fine long term for one's health, please post as I would be interested in reading it.

    You kind of remind me of a guy on here @OldAssDude

    So he likes facts/data and the recommendations of professionals also? Good man.

    Well, yes actually. Eat solid nutrition, avoid too much junk, and moderate exercise. With the occasional beer. Lol
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Here is what I believe. If I went to an RD and said that I would eat close to 1000 calories a day of nutrient rich food as a trade-off for having a big mac it would get green lighted. The reason I believe this is because they are trained in nutrition and it would be unprofessional of them to have food prejudices. Once nutrition is met no one should really care how the calories for just energy are spent. Once your nutrition well is full most of the other nutrients you eat spill over into your urine. There is no super nutrition status and we are not elite athletes so we do not need ridiculously strict food protocols.

    I have met two different RDs. The first one because my doctor could not give me answers. The second because I wanted another pair of eyes on my plan to speed up my weight loss for 3 months to hit a surgery deadline. Both told me stories of how exhausting their job was to try and convince people to make any improvements at all. The second had a woman who wanted to lose weight but drank 800+ calories each day and she has tried to convince her to cut back or stop for MONTHS. Both loved the way I ate. Neither cared at all how much "junk" food I ate because I ate so much of what they called "quality" food.

    Well. I am not surprised they where not fighting the battle over some "junk". Just getting people to add "healthy" food in there diet must be exhausting. Now, there are some "healthy" foods that are easy to over eat on. Nuts and nut butters being an example. Though, if one is replacing that big mac meal they would have for lunch with a chicken breast salad with a light dressing, will most likely crowd out much of the "junk". When people do that, they are lowering the overall ED of their diet and as long as someone is not hyper compensating elsewhere, they will lose weight. Though it might be individual. Much like exercise does not cause weight loss. Well, it does in most people. There are some people over compensate, most don't.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    psychod787 wrote: »
    NovusDies wrote: »
    Here is what I believe. If I went to an RD and said that I would eat close to 1000 calories a day of nutrient rich food as a trade-off for having a big mac it would get green lighted. The reason I believe this is because they are trained in nutrition and it would be unprofessional of them to have food prejudices. Once nutrition is met no one should really care how the calories for just energy are spent. Once your nutrition well is full most of the other nutrients you eat spill over into your urine. There is no super nutrition status and we are not elite athletes so we do not need ridiculously strict food protocols.

    I have met two different RDs. The first one because my doctor could not give me answers. The second because I wanted another pair of eyes on my plan to speed up my weight loss for 3 months to hit a surgery deadline. Both told me stories of how exhausting their job was to try and convince people to make any improvements at all. The second had a woman who wanted to lose weight but drank 800+ calories each day and she has tried to convince her to cut back or stop for MONTHS. Both loved the way I ate. Neither cared at all how much "junk" food I ate because I ate so much of what they called "quality" food.

    Well. I am not surprised they where not fighting the battle over some "junk". Just getting people to add "healthy" food in there diet must be exhausting. Now, there are some "healthy" foods that are easy to over eat on. Nuts and nut butters being an example. Though, if one is replacing that big mac meal they would have for lunch with a chicken breast salad with a light dressing, will most likely crowd out much of the "junk". When people do that, they are lowering the overall ED of their diet and as long as someone is not hyper compensating elsewhere, they will lose weight. Though it might be individual. Much like exercise does not cause weight loss. Well, it does in most people. There are some people over compensate, most don't.

    What Ann proposed was a scenario that you ate one big mac and the rest was nutrient dense food. If a person was eating too much calorie dense nutrient shallow food then the chicken breast and salad would certainly push calories in the right direction (assuming the calorie remained equal). If a person has already eaten a gigantic chicken salad that day as well as plenty of other "quality" food eating more chicken and salad could be redundant so why not have a big mac?

    Exactly. They are compensating. Much like a lady at my work who eats nuts by the handful because they are "healthy". "I have no idea why I am gaining weight?!? I eat nuts and they are healthy." While she eats her normal fare.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    As far as the rd not fighting. Some time you have to establish some healthy habits, then concentrate on the details.
  • runningjen74
    runningjen74 Posts: 312 Member
    HollyPFlax wrote: »
    I only eat potato chips once a year now. When I go to Ireland, I make sure to get some Cheese and Onion Taytos. They are the best!hdzdsz86tq1a.jpeg

    Make a crisp sandwich with these, two slices of white bread + taytos
  • NovusDies
    NovusDies Posts: 8,940 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    I’d choose the popcorn. I love popcorn!

    I just read that a guy ate a Big Mac every day for a month and lost 7 pounds. Just last month. He was eating 1500 calories a day, not just eating Big Macs
    5’4” he was posting on Instagram. Showing there are no bad foods. I think he was a personal trainer, or something like that.

    What the guy proved was that if one eats fewer calories then you burn you lose weight, nothing more. Ask any any Registered Dietitian if a 1500 calorie a day diet that includes a Big Mac every day is sustainable for health.

    Instagram posts giving nutrition or exercise advice from someone who people think "was a personal trainer or something like that", IMO is not a good idea.

    Big Mac, per McD web site:

    540 Calories
    28 grams Total Fat
    46 grams Carbs
    25 grams Protein

    If a person really wanted to, they could fit one in every day, and get overall decent (healthy) nutrition on 1500 calories, IMO.

    Not me, though: I'm vegetarian. ;)

    I'm thinking a registed dierition would not agree with your conclusion long term IMO.

    I'm thinking you have no idea what a registered dietitian would think on this topic.

    You might want to go back and carefully read my comments. I said I doubted a dietitian would think a Big Mac daily was healthy long term, especially on a 1500 calorie a day diet. Heck the trainer mentioned above that ate a Big Mac daily for a month and lost weight said the following:

    "I don't want anybody doing this challenge," he said. "I do not think that this challenge is healthy. I don't think it's smart but sometimes you have to do something extreme in order to make a simple point."

    Syatt merely wanted to hammer that point home.

    "The whole point of it was to show people that you can include your favorite foods into your diet in moderation and not only not lose progress, but actually continue to make progress, because so many people worry about ruining their entire diet if they go off track for one meal, whatever it is."

    I would agree with the trainer, and I believe most dietitians would say that a Big Mac is an "occasional" food and not an everyday food.

    If you can cite something where an actual nutrition professional says a Big Mac a day is fine long term for one's health, please post as I would be interested in reading it.

    Who said anything about a Big Mac per day? And, based on the macros, why would it not be in the context of an diet that had good balance overall? These kind of judgements don't really consider context and amount and, honestly come across as orthorexic.

    Please refer to the post by @AnnPT77 above which I responded to originally stating that IMO I do not believe for health reasons a dietitian would suggest that a diet that included a Big Mac a day would be healthy. As I stated above, and I believe would be in line with most dietitians, a Big Mac is an occasional type of food.

    Here is the post I responded to:

    Big Mac, per McD web site:

    540 Calories
    28 grams Total Fat
    46 grams Carbs
    25 grams Protein

    If a person really wanted to, they could fit one in every day, and get overall decent (healthy) nutrition on 1500 calories, IMO.

    Not me, though: I'm vegetarian

    I absolutely said that, and I own it.

    The point is: What matters is the whole way of eating, not one food or meal. The Big Mac is not the devil. It's basically meat and bread, plus some condiments and negligible veggies . . . normal foods, but nutritionally unbalanced on its own.

    If the rest of the person's day tops up protein, and includes a bunch of nice veggies and fruits, maybe some whole grains, MUFAs, PUFAs, they're good.

    Even as a vegetarian, I eat meals that have a similar macro profile to a Big Mac. I don't see why I should deprecate it even though (1) I wouldn't eat it unless under major duress, and (2) I think spending a third of calories on that makes the rest of the day unnecessarily more challenging. It wouldn't be my daily choice even if I ate meat. But it's food, with meaningful nutrients.

    It doesn't make sense to me to look at it in any other way. But I'm certainly not a dietitian, and don't pretend to be.

    I always consider my energy management to be my first priority for good health. If nothing else gets done in a day I need calories from any source possible. I will feel the affect of too little calories in hours in some cases. With the exception of electrolytes and fiber it could take substantially longer to realize the impact of a low nutrient level. In satisfying my energy requirement I want to eat enough of everything else to make a complete day for myself. I don't personally worry about occasionally incomplete days either. I have had vacation days where treat food has crowded out a lot of nutrition. I don't believe it makes any difference.

    I am nutritionally minded but I am not uptight about it. I believe being uptight about it is not helpful or mentally healthful (at least for me) as a practice.
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