November 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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@Camaramandy648 Wow. Just reading all you do on Wednesday nights made me tired. Not sure how you do it. I hope you got your run in and it was a good one!
@rheddmobile Beautiful rainbow.
@mbaker566 Snow! I'm NOT ready for that yet, but they are calling for it here next week. Well, I shouldn't say that. I love the snow, just strongly dislike the cold temperatures that go along with it. LOL My dog on the other hand loves the colder weather. I guess I would too if I wore a permanent fur coat.
@PastorVincent Good article. I have been doing my longer runs a lot slower, but not that slow. My HR goes up pretty fast, especially on hills or treadmill inclines. It also recovers quickly. So, I'm not even sure I could run slow enough to keep my HR at the rate he recommends, which would be 126 bpm. I may try on my next one and see.
@katharmonic Hope you get out of the slump/funk and have a great HM this weekend.8 -
quilteryoyo wrote: »@Camaramandy648 Wow. Just reading all you do on Wednesday nights made me tired. Not sure how you do it. I hope you got your run in and it was a good one!
@rheddmobile Beautiful rainbow.
@mbaker566 Snow! I'm NOT ready for that yet, but they are calling for it here next week. Well, I shouldn't say that. I love the snow, just strongly dislike the cold temperatures that go along with it. LOL My dog on the other hand loves the colder weather. I guess I would too if I wore a permanent fur coat.
@PastorVincent Good article. I have been doing my longer runs a lot slower, but not that slow. My HR goes up pretty fast, especially on hills or treadmill inclines. It also recovers quickly. So, I'm not even sure I could run slow enough to keep my HR at the rate he recommends, which would be 126 bpm. I may try on my next one and see.
@katharmonic Hope you get out of the slump/funk and have a great HM this weekend.
@ @quilteryoyo i did! It was a day of the program that required more consistent running so I had to really exert some focus and effort lol. Mostly I had to focus on breaths in and out. I had posted a while back about how my lungs are on fire and feel like they’re closing when I run (asthma) so everything has been really centered around controlling that.
I’m not really a cold weather person. I’m kind of an island person (half Portuguese) so running in 27 degrees F didn’t seem appealing EVER but I geared up and did it! It really wasn’t that bad and I was beeming with pride because I keep doing things I didn’t think I could or ever would! There were even points where I was consciously telling my legs, “you have more to give! You are not as tired as you think! You got this!” And eventually, it really was pretty doable! I enjoyed it so much!
Saturday in my program I’ll have to run for a longer stretch (it’s actually only eight minutes, just so you can see where I’m at in training this time around) and I am pretty nervous about it. I think the fear is the worst part. Not being able to breathe or not being able to do it and the disappointment that comes with that.
But then I think..... I’ve already done so many things I was afraid of. What if i CAN run for eight minutes straight?
So I’m really looking forward to Saturday because of that and also the lifting and long trail run after.
Also I found a local thirty mile ultra in the spring with no entrance fees. I probably won’t do 30 but maybe the little ten mile run they have the same day12 -
I ran just a hair under five after work tonight. 4.88 miles. It was dusky and cool. Nice run here in San Diego.14
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »I would say one of the most common (if not the most common) mistakes of all runners is going too fast, both in training and in races. This seems to apply at all levels of running. Slow long runs build you up in ways that fast runs can not, and yet most of us run our "slow runs" way too fast. Seriously, TIME ON FEET is one of the most critical parts of this sport. Far more important than intervals, hill repeats, or if you have neon purple shoes or not.
This article from 2018 gives some of the physical details behind the why.This might come as a surprise, but most of your runs should be slow. “For someone who’s a working professional and recreational runner, we’d advise them to do one fast session, one long run at an easy pace, and two to three shorter, easy runs,” says Rosetti. That’s four out of five runs at a conversational pace.
Read the rest here:
http://www.runnersworld.com/training/a25347729/jogging-a-recovery-run
I was just thinking about this today and realized it had been a while since we had general running advice in this thread. So here is my biggest tip: SLOW DOWN AND ENJOY THE SCENERY.
This is great.
I've been reading and listening to everything I can about running (it's all I think about). Jeff Galloway kept talking about "marathon pace," and, "You can really never go to slow on a distance run." I guess a lightbulb turned on in my head - maybe my lungs feel on fire and as though they are closing because I am running too FAST. The past few runs I have gone slow enough that I could hold a conversation (or at least what I imagine to be slow enough, given I ran alone). I was able to run for much longer and without as much shock and suffering. I feel like getting that part right is going to make my running so sustainable.
@Camaramandy648 some of the best tips anyone gave me when I started running were: "run so slow you could walk faster" and the loner's version of conversational pace: sing out loud while you run... it might get you a few funny looks, but it quickly shows you when you're going to fast!
It really is a breakthrough moment when you find that magical pace you could keep going at (seemingly) forever.8 -
November Goal: 285km
01/11: 3.26
03/11: 21.15
04/11: 6.52
05/11: 13.53
06/11: 6.58
08/11: 13.05
Total KM run: 64.09
Good luck to anyone racing this weekend!4 -
Good luck with your HM this weekend @katharmonic and to all racing this weekend.
That is great advice @eleanorhawkins and exactly where I hope to be. I have one pace and that is all I want for now. I am in the Poppy run HM on Saturday though I am just seeing where I can run too comfortably at my one pace. As I only re-started 5ks at the start of October I just want an event with others to keep me going a bit farther as I really switch off post 10k if I am on my own. If I get to 15k I have made my goal for this year, if I don't I'll have to do it solo in December.3 -
@7lenny7 WOW!!! Thank you so much for your insight and wisdom! So thankful for this group and all the loving support! I will definitely print off what you shared and heed your words of wisdom to the letter! I live in the mountains so hills are definitely a love hate relationship- love downhills like uphills. In fact the two Kenyan runners I met many years back at a local event gave me almost the same advice. Definitely am plugged into our running club but as mention life happened. Nevertheless, I am fully cleared and much stronger to get back to what I love- running. Now I have a mini me who loves running too-literally we did our first kids fun run 1 mile a couple of weeks ago before I joined this group and she “loved” it. I would love if she gets into track and field like mom did. ❤️🙏
With the injuries and other health stuff speaking with a MD friend several years back he recommended I switch to triathlons which would give me a little running, cycling and swimming- all my favs. So this too has crossed my mind but for years ultra has been in my sights as a truly freeing ultimate test of will, endurance and passionate desire to do the “impossible” since I know all things are possible. Now that I am honed into my WHY for ultras this flame is growing ever brighter.
Your support and words have fanned that flame even more! Thank you!
Ps. Please forgive any delays in reply or missed convo as I’m mindfully training while also living work life harmony as a full time grad student, mum, wife, full time leader.
I learned work life balance just doesn’t compute in these but days and times so I strive to align more with what brings daily harmony as this leads to more balance and happiness and less stress we tend put on ourselves to be perfect especially for an overachiever personality like mine😊11 -
@Camaramandy648 Sounds like you are doing great! I have the same mental issues when I am increasing distance or speed. It's usually not warranted. You've got this!
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katharmonic wrote: »November is not off to a very good start with running miles. My work schedule combined with kind of miserable weather and being tired from other workouts/activities have been doing me in. I'm feeling a bit in a slump, or maybe just needing a break. I have a half marathon this weekend and I am just not feeling it. I'll probably slog through it unless the weather is complete crap, but it's not something I really want to do right now. It's a local race with a big showing from our run club, and there's an awesome jacket - which is why I signed up for this ages ago.
It's so easy to get caught up in the mileage game especially when we see everyone else racking up the numbers. It's ok to take a break and back off. You are doing so many other activities that are keeping you healthy and fit. That's the bottom line. What really counts. I hope you can shake your dread of this weekend's HM and get it done - enjoy the scenery and time spent with friends - and of course the jacket!10 -
November Goal – 100 miles
Nov 2 – 5 miles
Nov 3 – 10 miles for @MobyCarp
Nov 4 – 5 miles
Nov 6 – 5.16 miles
Nov 7 – 5.18 miles
Nov 8 – 3.30 miles
Total – 30.34 miles
It was spitting a really fine snow and 32F when I left my house this morning. When I met my friends for the run though it was 35F and no precipitation. Supposed to get down in the teens tonight. I will have to really think about what I’m wearing to run in tomorrow morning. It takes me a while to get into this winter thing!
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11-1 7k slow
11-2 7k slow
11-3 8k for @MobyCarp
11-4 7k easy
11-5 yoga
11-6 7k slow
11-7 7k easy/yoga
11-8 rest
November Total: 43k
November Goal: 135k
January Total: 131k
February Total: 159.5k
March Total: 183k
April Total: 126k
May Total: 128k
June Total: 161.5k
July Total: 151k
August Total: 133k
September Total: 135k
October Total: 115k
2019 Total through October: 1,423k / 882.26m
Monthly average: 142.3k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races. Completed 8-31
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k. Nope...
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen - Completed 9-28
Rest day today. Had an inch or so of snow overnight so the footing would probably be pretty tricky for a run.
2020 goals:
Continue a 5k regimen.
Train better.
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K - 31:12 chip time; First Place male 65 and older
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5K - 31:34 chip time; 31/77 overall; second male 65 and older (no official category)
7-27 Solon Home Days 5K - 31:11 chip time; 95/141 overall; 4/6 age group (male)
8-31 Race for Freedom 5k - 31:39 chip time; 32:00 Garmin time; Third Place male 60 and older
10-13 Haunted Hustle 5k - 31:22 chip time; 47/74 overall; First Place male 60 and older9 -
Man, this weather coming next week...
There’s a race Saturday morning which I really wanted to do but it’s my husband’s birthday and he wants to sleep in. He’s with me in this running stuff to a point, but while I specifically wanted to get 5.1 miles on my 51st birthday, he specifically wants to take his birthday as a rest day. Oh well.
Anyway, skipping Saturday puts us running on Sunday - Tuesday - Thursday during what the news is calling “the polar blast.” Actual temps down to 16 degrees, windchill not above 18 all day. Excuse me? This is the mid-South, that’s January weather! The first of October was 100 degrees! I don’t like running in cold weather at all, but last year I gradually got used to it. This year, we never got any nice running temperatures, just punishingly hot then rain then straight into freezing!
I got all my gear stolen a month ago, and so far I’ve replaced the hot weather accessories and the chill weather accessories, but I don’t have any below freezing accessories yet! I need to get some warmer gloves and a warmer buff, my only buff at the moment is a summer weight UV half buff. I looked on Amazon and as seems to be happening a lot with my favorite things that got stolen, the ear band I used to have isn’t made anymore. It was black with heat reflective foil on the inside, and I can find similar ones, but they all have seams in weird places, and mine had no seam. My head sweats a lot and my ears freeze easily, so this headband was one of the few things I’ve found that stayed dry and warm.
Rant off. Just had to vent to people who would understand my frustration!8 -
@Camaramandy648 - this made my day! I keep smiling every time I read thru it! Congratulations - this is why running becomes addictive!Camaramandy648 wrote: »
I’m not really a cold weather person. I’m kind of an island person (half Portuguese) so running in 27 degrees F didn’t seem appealing EVER but I geared up and did it! It really wasn’t that bad and I was beeming with pride because I keep doing things I didn’t think I could or ever would! There were even points where I was consciously telling my legs, “you have more to give! You are not as tired as you think! You got this!” And eventually, it really was pretty doable! I enjoyed it so much!
Saturday in my program I’ll have to run for a longer stretch (it’s actually only eight minutes, just so you can see where I’m at in training this time around) and I am pretty nervous about it. I think the fear is the worst part. Not being able to breathe or not being able to do it and the disappointment that comes with that.
But then I think..... I’ve already done so many things I was afraid of. What if i CAN run for eight minutes straight?
So I’m really looking forward to Saturday because of that and also the lifting and long trail run after.
Also I found a local thirty mile ultra in the spring with no entrance fees. I probably won’t do 30 but maybe the little ten mile run they have the same day
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katharmonic wrote: »November is not off to a very good start with running miles. My work schedule combined with kind of miserable weather and being tired from other workouts/activities have been doing me in. I'm feeling a bit in a slump, or maybe just needing a break. I have a half marathon this weekend and I am just not feeling it. I'll probably slog through it unless the weather is complete crap, but it's not something I really want to do right now. It's a local race with a big showing from our run club, and there's an awesome jacket - which is why I signed up for this ages ago.
It's so easy to get caught up in the mileage game especially when we see everyone else racking up the numbers. It's ok to take a break and back off. You are doing so many other activities that are keeping you healthy and fit. That's the bottom line. What really counts. I hope you can shake your dread of this weekend's HM and get it done - enjoy the scenery and time spent with friends - and of course the jacket!
Thanks so much @Teresa502. You have always such supportive and kind comments. It's so true that it's easy to get caught up in the miles. I'm trying to be okay with cutting back right now to have fun doing other things, not worrying about the totals. I went rock climbing tonight and it was a great stress reliever and change of pace.
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
11/01/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
11/02/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 0.0
11/03/19 :::: 3.1 :::: 3.1
11/04/19 :::: 3.3 :::: 6.5
11/05/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 6.5
11/06/19 :::: 0.0 :::: 6.5
11/07/19 :::: 2.5 :::: 9.0
11/08/19 :::: 3.0 :::: 12.0
I did get in a little treadmill run today as well. Happy to have this week behind me and hoping that the weekend will feel long and relaxing (as unlikely as that may be).
Thanks to all for the encouragement and good wishes on the half on Sunday. I picked up the jacket and it is indeed awesome! I'm still not looking forward to running it but I'm hoping that I might be able to run with and encourage some people - I know a bunch who are going for their first half so I'd love to be able to help if they are slow enough for me 8 -
I have a cold. I am taking cold ezze, suggested by my doctor. It seems to be helping. Anyway, because of not being at my best and the article I read this morning from @PastorVincent , I decided to run slowly and keep my HR at or below that recommended in the article. Well, that was a complete fail. I ran on the treadmill and did the run/walk @ 4.5mph for 4 minutes, walk @3.9 mph for 1 minute and repeat. While I felt like it was a very easy run, my HR still maxed out at 155 and stayed in the 150's most of the running time. I don't think I can run any slower than that. I can walk at 4 mph - probably faster. Anyway, it was an easy run and with the warm up and cool down walks, I did 4 miles. Not too bad for a sick person. LOL9
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@rheddmobile That sucks about your gear! We're about to get lows in the teens but I haven't heard anything about wind chills.
So this morning was mid20s F - I don't remember exact temp and wind chill now - and I ran 2 miles and walked 1 as warm up/ cool down. Does anyone else still sweat ridiculously in below freezing temps? I think a quarter mile in to my run my face and hands broke out in sweat. I only wore regular cheap tights, and a paper thin shirt with a cheap jacket. Lol. I skipped gloves and didn't have the best hat on either. Nothing like skin that feels cold to the touch and damp with sweat.
I also walked my dogs later when it was up to 38. I wore jeans and a sweater with gloves and a hat and ended up pulling off the accessories because I felt like I was going to have a heat stroke
Am I okay?!
Then tonight i dropped a 2lb glass jar candle on my big toe so i may not be running again for awhile. We shall see. I made dinner and all and was walking on it. Then I iced it just for good measure and now it hurts just sitting around and is turning bruised.
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Commitments for November:
1) Run at least 36 miles
2) Walk at least 36 miles 80 miles 100 miles
3) Finish the last 2 weeks of Active's C25K program
4) Finish the first 2 weeks of Active's 5K to 10K program
Date......Walk......Run
11/01.....6.11.......2.21
11/02.....2.72.......0.00
11/03.....4.20.......2.58
11/04.....2.71.......0.00
11/05.....6.65.......2.33
11/06.....7.83.......0.00
11/07.....4.35.......2.54
11/08.....5.91.......0.004 -
So, umm, my trainer has talked me into going for a BQ in 2020. I am still not sure she is not on drugs to think I can get there, but golly, I am not getting any younger. Might as well try, right? Worst that could happen is I fall in a hole and can not pull myself out and have to stay there for the rest of my life like some clown with red balloons. Right? Shrugs, does not sound so bad...17
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I wanted to do 4-5 miles today but I got in 3.2. I was getting shin splints. Checked my shoe mileage 430 recorded so probably a little more from walking around races, warm-ups, cools downs, etc. So now I'm down to 3 pairs. LOL This is why I ordered a replacement pair when I was getting close to 400.
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PastorVincent wrote: »So, umm, my trainer has talked me into going for a BQ in 2020. I am still not sure she is not on drugs to think I can get there, but golly, I am not getting any younger. Might as well try, right? Worst that could happen is I fall in a hole and can not pull myself out and have to stay there for the rest of my life like some clown with red balloons. Right? Shrugs, does not sound so bad...PastorVincent wrote: »So, umm, my trainer has talked me into going for a BQ in 2020. I am still not sure she is not on drugs to think I can get there, but golly, I am not getting any younger. Might as well try, right? Worst that could happen is I fall in a hole and can not pull myself out and have to stay there for the rest of my life like some clown with red balloons. Right? Shrugs, does not sound so bad...
I really think you’re going to do great! If anyone can, it’s you1
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