November 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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I’ve been forced to lurk as my computer died, however, I’m still running. I have a trail event this weekend which I’m looking forward to. No plans to race it as it’s basically a massive hill, but it’ll be a nice day out. For once I may run with my phone and take pretty pics!14
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@adampeart I like Hal Higdon plans a lot. You can download them for free and there are some that have you running 4 days a week. A lot of other plans have 5 days a week but that doesn't always fit my schedule.
@kgirlhart Are these plans in the form of an app? Or are they just paper schedules? I'm looking to replace my Active C25K app and I really like just doing what I'm told to do when I'm told to do it, without having to think of it too much.
I guess what I might need at some point is a watch that allows me to set my own intervals, and that has some bluetooth connectivity so that it can tell my earphones when I should start and stop running.
Actually I'd really like a watch that can do that, as well as connect to WiFi so I can download apps and check my email etc. I have never had a smartwatch before and I am getting tired of carrying around my phone when I run.
What is the difference between an Android smartwatch that basically replaces most of the functions of an Android phone versus a Garmin? People on this thread seem to really like Garmins. What do they do (or not do) that makes them preferable to a generic Apple or Android smartwatch?
As far as I know the Hal Higdon plans don't have an app. I just downloaded it and printed it up and used it as a guideline, tweaking it to fit my goals and training level.
He does have an app, it is not free though so I never looked into it.2 -
@adampeart I like Hal Higdon plans a lot. You can download them for free and there are some that have you running 4 days a week. A lot of other plans have 5 days a week but that doesn't always fit my schedule.
Yer saw them mentioned elsewhere and had a look but my timings aren't going to fit them near the end. I have only 30 mins during the week really and it's getting less with the sun coming up later.
You could also learn the "art" behind writing up training plans if you want, then you can make one that is perfect for you. Check out this book on Amazon:
Avialbe on Amazon and else where I am sure.
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What is the difference between an Android smartwatch that basically replaces most of the functions of an Android phone versus a Garmin? People on this thread seem to really like Garmins. What do they do (or not do) that makes them preferable to a generic Apple or Android smartwatch?
So, practical day to day differences...
My Garmin 935 goes WEEKS without needing a charge. My Apple watch needed to be plugged in every day. Some times in 1/2 a day.
My Garmin 935 can record a full 24 hours of running with full GPS/HR/etc. My Apple Watch could not survive more than a few hours. This meant I could not use it for longer races or long runs during training.
My Garmin is a completely self-contained unit. It CAN be used with a phone, but even if you do not own a phone it can do 100% of what it does. Andriod and Apple watches all depend on the phone in varying degrees.
Smartwatches tend to really just be a second screen for your phone and tend to depend on far less accurate GPS sensors, but offer far better control over the phone.
So it comes down to what do you want. Do you want a second screen for your phone, or do you want a dedicated device that nails activity tracking and does most of what you need from a smartwatch? I am pretty deep in Apple Gear, and love the ecosystem, but dumped my Apple Watch for my Garmin 935 simply because the Garmin did all the things I cared about on the Apple watch, but for sports tracking was far more accurate, and far better battery life. I can not SEND a text, email, or make a call from it, but I can read texts, deny/accept incoming calls, and in general read all notifications. That is plenty for me.
So, as I said it comes down to what you want from the hardware. Most devices this day can interface with any app (My Garmin reports to Garmin Connect, MFP, Strava, Final Surge, AND Run Keeper. Every run goes out to all of them for different reasons). I can also pair other sensors like my foot pod to the Garmin.
I also like that my Garmin uses a transflective display that can easily be read even in the brightest of lights. Most smartwatches have to ramp up battery usage to make that attempt. I also like that my Garmin is NOT a touch screen, though they do make touch screen models.
Picking a device in this category is very personal. For me, battery life and accuracy beat out all other features. For you, different things might matter more.
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Today was a dreadmill day. I forgot my running jacket and it was below freezing, with temps falling and ice on the roads. Did 11 miles at 3% grade, though had to stop and restart because the dreadmill maxed out at one hour.
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So Australia is basically on fire, are all our members okay?1
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rheddmobile wrote: »katharmonic wrote: »
I'm still struggling with improving my pull-ups and pulling strength. My trainer has been bugging me to do a "microdose" at home every day, just 5 reps. And every day I walk past my pull-up bar and ignore it, thinking I'm too sore or tired or whatever.
I do negatives every morning before I shower, if I don’t make them a routine I don’t do them. I’m not exactly improving but at least it keeps me from going backwards!
I have been looking at another challenge on MFP for pullups. I really need to work on this but I do not know where to start... that is, I do not understand what a "negative" is. Do any of you know of a video online somewhere that clearly illustrates how to do a negative? I need to see someone do this. Thanks!
I can post a video tomorrow night if i remember.
Basically, jump or take a chair and get into a "final" pull up position and slowly lower yourself down
I forgot tonight. I'll do it tomorrow night.
Grrr icy night.2 -
4.25 miles tonight
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rheddmobile wrote: »katharmonic wrote: »
I'm still struggling with improving my pull-ups and pulling strength. My trainer has been bugging me to do a "microdose" at home every day, just 5 reps. And every day I walk past my pull-up bar and ignore it, thinking I'm too sore or tired or whatever.
I do negatives every morning before I shower, if I don’t make them a routine I don’t do them. I’m not exactly improving but at least it keeps me from going backwards!
I have been looking at another challenge on MFP for pullups. I really need to work on this but I do not know where to start... that is, I do not understand what a "negative" is. Do any of you know of a video online somewhere that clearly illustrates how to do a negative? I need to see someone do this. Thanks!
I can post a video tomorrow night if i remember.
Basically, jump or take a chair and get into a "final" pull up position and slowly lower yourself down
I forgot tonight. I'll do it tomorrow night.
Grrr icy night.
Thanks for thinking of me. Also, stay warm out there.0 -
I did not know this about the mainstream watches being tethered to their phones. Garmin sounds like a much more useful watch to have.PastorVincent wrote: »What is the difference between an Android smartwatch that basically replaces most of the functions of an Android phone versus a Garmin? People on this thread seem to really like Garmins. What do they do (or not do) that makes them preferable to a generic Apple or Android smartwatch?
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My Garmin is a completely self-contained unit. It CAN be used with a phone, but even if you do not own a phone it can do 100% of what it does. Android and Apple watches all depend on the phone in varying degrees.
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So it comes down to what do you want. Do you want a second screen for your phone, or do you want a dedicated device that nails activity tracking and does most of what you need from a smartwatch? I am pretty deep in Apple Gear, and love the ecosystem, but dumped my Apple Watch for my Garmin 935 simply because the Garmin did all the things I cared about on the Apple watch, but for sports tracking was far more accurate, and far better battery life. I can not SEND a text, email, or make a call from it, but I can read texts, deny/accept incoming calls, and in general read all notifications. That is plenty for me.
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martaindale wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »10F this morning... I guess winter has arrived early! Brr!
ARTIC BLAST!!!! FEEL THE FREEZE!
It was 28F in Houston. In Nov?!? Craziness.
It was down to 14F this morning in Memphis. No thank you!
5 miles on the Greenline. Because of the freeze, we pushed Tuesday’s run to Wednesday, which also gave my husband an extra day since he’s been having soleus issues. He says his soleus today felt a little tight but otherwise fine.
My weird back of knee/bottom of hamstring spasm is not fine. Starting at about halfway through mile 2 it was going off like clockwork about every 100 meters. I wore different shoes and did some extra stretching to see if it would help, and it didn’t. As before, no pain, no tightness, no indication that anything is wrong, then bam, sharp spasmy pain for about two strides, fading quickly to perfectly normal until it does it again. When I’m not wearing a knee brace this makes my knee buckle under me; with the brace it is very disconcerting and annoying, but I can run through it. And since it doesn’t seem to be harming anything that’s what I did. I’m leaning towards it being some nerve issue at the moment. Towards the end of the run it stopped doing it, possibly coincidentally when we started going faster.
We waited until late afternoon to run, and it was about 45 and lovely when we set out. By the time we got done it was decidedly nippy and had dropped about ten degrees. It seems like the deer are starting their breeding season again, because we kept seeing large, not at all shy, bucks. Ordinarily we see tons of does and half-grown deer but the bucks stay in the trees.5 -
PastorVincent wrote: »What is the difference between an Android smartwatch that basically replaces most of the functions of an Android phone versus a Garmin? People on this thread seem to really like Garmins. What do they do (or not do) that makes them preferable to a generic Apple or Android smartwatch?
So, practical day to day differences...
My Garmin 935 goes WEEKS without needing a charge. My Apple watch needed to be plugged in every day. Some times in 1/2 a day.
My Garmin 935 can record a full 24 hours of running with full GPS/HR/etc. My Apple Watch could not survive more than a few hours. This meant I could not use it for longer races or long runs during training.
My Garmin is a completely self-contained unit. It CAN be used with a phone, but even if you do not own a phone it can do 100% of what it does. Andriod and Apple watches all depend on the phone in varying degrees.
Smartwatches tend to really just be a second screen for your phone and tend to depend on far less accurate GPS sensors, but offer far better control over the phone.
So it comes down to what do you want. Do you want a second screen for your phone, or do you want a dedicated device that nails activity tracking and does most of what you need from a smartwatch? I am pretty deep in Apple Gear, and love the ecosystem, but dumped my Apple Watch for my Garmin 935 simply because the Garmin did all the things I cared about on the Apple watch, but for sports tracking was far more accurate, and far better battery life. I can not SEND a text, email, or make a call from it, but I can read texts, deny/accept incoming calls, and in general read all notifications. That is plenty for me.
So, as I said it comes down to what you want from the hardware. Most devices this day can interface with any app (My Garmin reports to Garmin Connect, MFP, Strava, Final Surge, AND Run Keeper. Every run goes out to all of them for different reasons). I can also pair other sensors like my foot pod to the Garmin.
I also like that my Garmin uses a transflective display that can easily be read even in the brightest of lights. Most smartwatches have to ramp up battery usage to make that attempt. I also like that my Garmin is NOT a touch screen, though they do make touch screen models.
Picking a device in this category is very personal. For me, battery life and accuracy beat out all other features. For you, different things might matter more.
When I was debating my Smart/Running Watch purchase, I did my own research, narrowed it down, then listened/watched (snort, see what I did there?) what other, more experienced runners here had to say. Have to say, @PastorVincent was one of those who swayed me to a Garmin 935.
Over 2 years later, and I'm NOT sorry! Just this week I found new features on it I wasn't even aware of! The only issue I've had with it was the clasp to hold the strap down broke off. For now I use a hair elastic. Eventually I'll get a band replacement, but so far, I'm a Garmin (935) Gal!3 -
Hey all!
Well I've already listened to my body and adapted my plan. Took a rest day today, body is still a bit sore after strength training 2 days ago. So no run, and no strength workout. And no regrets.
Still doing If. Day 6 today. And have noticed a reduction in my hunger. So I've gone from feeling hungry all the time, even straight after eating, to happily going hrs between meals. I've heard this can happen and it definitely is reducing cravings.
But just week 1. Haha. Hopefully I'm catching up to the wagon10 -
I went out for a run after taking a couple days off from the weekend double. I'm pretty sure I developed some Achilles tendinitis and have been trying to treat that, but went ahead and got a run in. It was not terrible on the injury, but I under-dressed. It was around 40F, but after dark, and I had a T, shorts, and wool hat. In hindsight, I should have worn gloves and perhaps something with sleeves. This is not an issue when at the same temp. and the sun is out, but I guess I need to add a bit more after dark. But in this case, I decided to turn back home much earlier than otherwise planned... I'll know better next time, I guess.
2.86 miles
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Couple more from me this morning on the treadmill doing speed and hill intervals between weights sessions. The combination of compacted wet leaves and total darkness is making the pre-work long run too treacherous at the moment. Hopefully I’ll get out at the weekend!
11/2: 3m
11:6: 6.3m
11/9: 2m
11/12: 2.4m
11/14: 2.6m
November total: 16.3m
November goal: 20m
October total: 64.1m
September total: 82.2m
August total: 85m
July total: 90.1m
June total: 86.1m
May total: 67.6m
April total: 71.5m
March total: 42.9m
February total: 30.2m
January total: 31.7m
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Congratulations on completing the C25K programme @durhammfp and you have the 5k in the bag after this as well. I don't who the expect to do 5k in the time limit after this programme!
On the apple watches there are two varieties, cellular and non-cellular. Non-cellular are tied to a phone, cellular act independently. As an apple watch owner they are definitely limited and, as @PastorVincent said, they need charging every day. I think their max monitoring life is about a marathon though if you switch of the HRM they last longer, but isn't the point that it gives you an HRM?
I'm impressed by everyone getting out on the cold. This morning was 38 degrees F and 100% humidity and that is about as cold as I would want to be.4 -
Good Morning! I don't ever seem to have time to read all of these posts so I thought I would do just that this morning. I started at page 34 & only made it back to page 32! So much good advice & enjoyable reading. I started listening to the audiobook Running the Edge & I would recommend it. I hope everyone has a fun & productive running day!
Oh - My November goal is 60, completed month to date is 37. Right on schedule! Thank You for the motivation.6 -
I did not know this about the mainstream watches being tethered to their phones. Garmin sounds like a much more useful watch to have.PastorVincent wrote: »What is the difference between an Android smartwatch that basically replaces most of the functions of an Android phone versus a Garmin? People on this thread seem to really like Garmins. What do they do (or not do) that makes them preferable to a generic Apple or Android smartwatch?
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My Garmin is a completely self-contained unit. It CAN be used with a phone, but even if you do not own a phone it can do 100% of what it does. Android and Apple watches all depend on the phone in varying degrees.
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So it comes down to what do you want. Do you want a second screen for your phone, or do you want a dedicated device that nails activity tracking and does most of what you need from a smartwatch? I am pretty deep in Apple Gear, and love the ecosystem, but dumped my Apple Watch for my Garmin 935 simply because the Garmin did all the things I cared about on the Apple watch, but for sports tracking was far more accurate, and far better battery life. I can not SEND a text, email, or make a call from it, but I can read texts, deny/accept incoming calls, and in general read all notifications. That is plenty for me.
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Like @PastorVincent said, it really depends on what you want from it. In terms of being tethered to a phone, you can use the Garmins as fitness trackers without a phone, but you're probably still dumping all that data onto a computer at the end of the day and using a website or app. That's also the case with the Apple Watch of course, but you also get the phone replacement elements of being able to make calls, send texts, and use apps to a greater or lesser extent. You definitely need a phone to get your Apple Watch set up, but once you've got that taken care of, you don't need to carry your phone with you at all and I like that a lot.
I am also pretty deep in the Apple ecosystem, so when they released the 3 series watch (the first one with independent cellular capacity) around the same time as I started running and working out a lot, it was the natural choice. I ran into battery issues running my first half last year when my phone died after about 2 hours 25 minutes - 5 minutes from the end! Since then I've learned some tricks to extend the battery life but since most of my runs this year have been shorter I haven't always had to use them. The series 4 and 5 watches have better battery life, though still much less than the Garmins, of course.
There is definitely stuff that you get from a Garmin that you wouldn't get from the Apple Watch: if I were running more than 2-3 hours at a time on a regular basis, or doing a lot of speed work or heart rate training or something like that, I'd probably want a Garmin. I have never noticed any GPS inaccuracy with my watch, but it's possible that's a regional thing.
The main thing I wanted was to be able to leave my phone at home and still listen to music and be fully connected if necessary, and that the Apple Watch has provided. I love being able to send texts and make calls without my watch, and that my husband can very easily see where I am on my runs, mostly for convenience but I appreciate the safety elements of it as well. In order to get all that from a Garmin I would need to go for the high end models that would be equally or more expensive than the Watch, and right now I just don't need the extra training functionality from the Garmin.
I definitely am envious at times of the Garmin community aspects, but I get enough support from this group for the time being and the idea of adding yet another social network to my life is a little exhausting.
ETA: My number one complaint with the Watch from a running standpoint is actually the touchscreen. I live in Minnesota and run year-round, which means I'm often wearing long sleeves. I found out early on that a lot of tech clothing will set off the touch screen, so I have to lock the watch at the beginning of my run if I don't want the movement of my arm to stop the workout or skip songs or whatever random mischief it feels like doing that day. Having to keep it locked isn't usually a big deal (fiddling with the watch while running is a good way to fall down), but occasionally it's a pain.6 -
(Speaking of Canadians, where the heck has @juliet3455 been?!?!)
@7lenny7 Thanks for the inquiry. Since my PF & Achilles Tendonitis kept me from running
I had to get away from this forum as the temptation to run was just to big - especially reading everyone's race posts and goals accomplished.
I am sorta back. Have managed a whole 7.5 km so far in November, 1k, 1k, 2k, 3.5k.
Small distances but at least I can run without pain and no post run pain, although I got passed by a turtle wearing snowshoes on Sunday
. It will be a slow build.
September was a really tough month as that is when I had to drop running and it corresponded with the maintenance shutdown of the swimming pool. No Running and No swimming = grumpy.
Trying to catch up by doing some speed reading.18 -
November Miles - 33.77/70, walk 6.14
11/03 - 6.25; walk 1.44
11/04 - walk 1.35
11/05 - 3.56
11/06 - 3.63
11/07 - 3.1
11/08 - walk 1.12
11/10 - 6.71; walk 2.23
11/12 - 3.8
11/13 - 3.45
11/14 - 3.27
A little bit brisk this morning at 31F, but I've run in colder. With very little wind and couple layers, hat and gloves, it was a really nice, easy run.5
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