Welcome to Debate Club! Please be aware that this is a space for respectful debate, and that your ideas will be challenged here. Please remember to critique the argument, not the author.
If a calorie is a calorie, why do we see this?
Replies
-
Did someone say that people who self report their food consumption after the fact may incorrectly recall the food they ate and that people who don't successfully implement rigid rules about eating at night are more likely to over-eat as opposed to people over-eating during morning hours? More time available to consume food, higher tendency to relax and reward, willing to self sooth after combating accumulated hunger/stress during the day. Not wanting to go to bed hungry. You know... all the reasons many of us prefer to eat most of our food at night, assuming we can accommodate this within our caloric goals? Waiting for the metabolic chamber results...9
-
Sure wish I Could sleep better. Feel better in morning fasting than after I eat. Usually don't eat breakfast until noon or a bit after.0
-
SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
0 -
SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?0 -
SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
When you supply a study of more than 1000 participants, I'll engage. 16 participants does not make a study11 -
SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
LOL, it equates to, like, 30 additional calories for the high calorie breakfast. Yep, that'll solve the obesity crisis.11 -
I just listened to an article on utube.It said if we lower our calories our bodies start to use less calories and can maintain on 1000 calories.He said the way to get down to a healthy weigh to eat mostly whole food and not much junk food.2
-
estherpotter1 wrote: »I just listened to an article on utube.It said if we lower our calories our bodies start to use less calories and can maintain on 1000 calories.He said the way to get down to a healthy weigh to eat mostly whole food and not much junk food.
@estherpotter1 I would suggest not getting your diet advice from Youtube. The way to get weight down is to eat at a sensible calorie deficit. You can still be overweight, or not losing weight, eating entirely whole foods. Weight management is purely calories in vs calories out.
And you just need to look to concentration camp prisoners, famine victims, anorexics to see that the 1000 cal thing isn't true.
It is true that we burn fewer calories when we have been at a prolonged deficit (this is called adaptive thermogenesis), but the amount is generally not huge, and certainly not enough to see the vast majority of people ending up with maintenance cals of 1000.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1077746/starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss/p18 -
thanks,that was a horrible thought to be maintaining at just 1000 calories and no loger losing weight.2
-
estherpotter1 wrote: »thanks,that was a horrible thought to be maintaining at just 1000 calories and no loger losing weight.
A generic RMR calculator wouldn't even put that as resting maintenance for 70 pound, 4ft tall woman.1 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
1 -
deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.3 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.6 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.
i need a gif of me sticking my tongue out 1 -
The dog's tongue will have to do!7
-
estherpotter1 wrote: »thanks,that was a horrible thought to be maintaining at just 1000 calories and no loger losing weight.
Don't worry. I'm a li'l ol' lady who lost 1/3 of her body weight in less than a year, and maintain at more than twice that. Don't do anything super dumb while losing (like ultra-fast loss, poor nutrition, zero exercise) and you'll be fine. You might even be fine of you do those things, but not doing them improves your odds.3 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.
I also wonder why it seems to be so important. None of this stuff is sufficient to outweigh compliance factors (at best).7 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.
I also wonder why it seems to be so important. None of this stuff is sufficient to outweigh compliance factors (at best).
I think he's shouty guy without the caps.8 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.
I also wonder why it seems to be so important. None of this stuff is sufficient to outweigh compliance factors (at best).
In my experience, people like to complicate things. It makes them feel special...3 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »SEVENTH
Study made in Germany just published in the The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/105/3/dgz311/5740411Discussion
Our data show that the time of day of food intake makes a difference in humans’ energy expenditure and metabolic responses to meals.
...
We clearlyshow that DIT is 2.5 times higher after breakfast than after dinner.
...
Overall, the diurnal variations in DIT, independent of the calorie content of the meals, imply that the time of food intake is important not only in the prevention of obesity but also in terms of diets for weight loss.
What even is DIT?
dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT)
thank you google-gods
Honestly wanted saintor to answer.
Me too. Based on the thread so far I think he's unable to discuss what he posts.
I also wonder why it seems to be so important. None of this stuff is sufficient to outweigh compliance factors (at best).
In my experience, people like to complicate things. It makes them feel special...
Or a felt need to debunk the theory that calories are what matter for weight management, in this case?2
Categories
- 946.6K All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 382.6K Introduce Yourself
- 41.9K Getting Started
- 257.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 174.3K Food and Nutrition
- 47K Recipes
- 231.2K Fitness and Exercise
- 239 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.3K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.3K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 151.4K Motivation and Support
- 7.1K Challenges
- 1.2K Debate Club
- 95.8K Chit-Chat
- 2.4K Fun and Games
- 800 MyFitnessPal Information
- 17 News and Announcements
- 204 Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 578 MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions