February 2020 Monthly Running Challenge
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »@janejellyroll I am so sorry to hear this! But! Silver lining - you burned a lot of calories and you still ran. Just not in the race. And you learned some important things, too.
@Tramboman what did you do before you retired? I am going to start investing more in my retirement. I would LOVE some days with very few responsibilities!
I served in the Army for 20 years, and swore I'd never run again.
Then I was an Adult Probation Officer, starting out as the Collections Officer and retiring as the Deputy Chief.
I also served as an Adjunct Instructor at a few Community Colleges. I taught one evening class per semester, ranging from basic composition to advanced composition classes.
I was blessed to do what I did and equally blessed to be able to do what I do now.7 -
@janejellyroll I’m still stuck pondering the sort of person who casually considers adding 12 miles (there and back?) in 5 degree weather! I’m sorry you missed your race, glad you’re taking it with a good attitude.4
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rheddmobile wrote: »@janejellyroll I’m still stuck pondering the sort of person who casually considers adding 12 miles (there and back?) in 5 degree weather! I’m sorry you missed your race, glad you’re taking it with a good attitude.
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Camaramandy648 wrote: »@janejellyroll I am so sorry to hear this! But! Silver lining - you burned a lot of calories and you still ran. Just not in the race. And you learned some important things, too.
@Tramboman what did you do before you retired? I am going to start investing more in my retirement. I would LOVE some days with very few responsibilities!
I served in the Army for 20 years, and swore I'd never run again.
Then I was an Adult Probation Officer, starting out as the Collections Officer and retiring as the Deputy Chief.
I also served as an Adjunct Instructor at a few Community Colleges. I taught one evening class per semester, ranging from basic composition to advanced composition classes.
I was blessed to do what I did and equally blessed to be able to do what I do now.
@Tramboman thank you for your service !!!!!!
I would not like to be an adult probation officer. I don't think I'd ever be able to reconcile the myriad of opinions and ideas and processes I'd have to face daily.
You are an impressive, impressive human. Keep going!0 -
Camaramandy648 wrote: »Camaramandy648 wrote: »@janejellyroll I am so sorry to hear this! But! Silver lining - you burned a lot of calories and you still ran. Just not in the race. And you learned some important things, too.
@Tramboman what did you do before you retired? I am going to start investing more in my retirement. I would LOVE some days with very few responsibilities!
I served in the Army for 20 years, and swore I'd never run again.
Then I was an Adult Probation Officer, starting out as the Collections Officer and retiring as the Deputy Chief.
I also served as an Adjunct Instructor at a few Community Colleges. I taught one evening class per semester, ranging from basic composition to advanced composition classes.
I was blessed to do what I did and equally blessed to be able to do what I do now.
@Tramboman thank you for your service !!!!!!
I would not like to be an adult probation officer. I don't think I'd ever be able to reconcile the myriad of opinions and ideas and processes I'd have to face daily.
You are an impressive, impressive human. Keep going!
Thanks for your kind words.
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Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!8 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!
Am I remembering correctly, that you were previously needing to stop around 10 miles, and this time made it a whole extra mile before that happened?
It does seem like maybe you're still worried about pace, though. I'm not sure it's going to work to go for both new distance AND a specific pace, right now, at the same time. But it will be totally fine if you prove me wrong on that!0 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!
Am I remembering correctly, that you were previously needing to stop around 10 miles, and this time made it a whole extra mile before that happened?
It does seem like maybe you're still worried about pace, though. I'm not sure it's going to work to go for both new distance AND a specific pace, right now, at the same time. But it will be totally fine if you prove me wrong on that!
I'm managing about an extra half mile each attempt. With or without extra fuel. I made one more extra half mile.
I do worry about pace. I'm going to try to set it aside, but I am doubtful that it is the problem. Does the heart rate data not sway you that pace might be appropriate?0 -
Thanks everyone for the race congrats! It was a tough course and, I want to do it again to better my time lol. Call me crazy.
@rheddmobile Super going! That sounds even tougher than what I went through. Awesome.
@janejellyroll Just wow. Badass.
@MegaMooseEsq Great run in those temps. I can’t imagine those temps.
Today was much needed rest. Yesterday I went out for an “easy recovery” run after the race on Sat. Decided to go to another lake that has a greenway loop. Hadn’t been there in a couple years. Forgot it wasn’t really flat 😐. It wasn’t really easy lol. Walked half of the run. Legs were just not having it.
Tomorrow it rains so possibly dreadmill time.
@autumnblade75 I’ve had the same problem with the 10 mile wall. I’m still experimenting myself. Have stared with fig newtons and will try dates. And as stated, I have to remember to have fuel before I need it. I probably need to go slower too. But I hear you it’s hard to mentally agree with this logic.5 -
@janejellyroll Sorry you missed your race! I do have to say that sounds like the exact kind of mistake I might make though... if that helps
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autumnblade75 wrote: »Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!
How many calories were you consuming and how fast? 21 M&Ms does not sound like nearly enough to make a difference. I have to double-check the number (or someone else can chime in) but I think it is more like 200 calories an hour as a target.0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »How many calories were you consuming and how fast? 21 M&Ms does not sound like nearly enough to make a difference. I have to double-check the number (or someone else can chime in) but I think it is more like 200 calories an hour as a target.
This is what I was thinking. 20 M&Ms is only like 70 calories and that's going to be negligible, plus it's not nearly the amount of grams of carbohydrates that are recommended - which is at least like 30-60 g per hour. Not sure what kind of Gatorade or how much you were taking in, but unless it's a whole bottle it may also not be enough.
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
02/01/20 :::: 7.8 :::: 7.8
02/02/20 :::: 3.1 :::: 10.9
02/03/20 :::: 3.8 :::: 14.7
02/04/20 :::: 2.0 :::: 16.7
02/05/20 :::: 2.2 :::: 19.0
02/06/20 :::: 1.4 :::: 20.4
02/07/20 :::: 7.0 :::: 27.4
02/08/20 :::: 1.6 :::: 29.1
02/09/20 :::: 2.1 :::: 31.2
02/10/20 :::: 3.2 :::: 34.3
Tonight was group speedwork, and I really did not want to do it. After my "winter is magical" attitude while skiing yesterday, I was grumpy and over the whole thing today. I almost bailed and went to the gym after work instead to just do a treadmill run - I drove almost all the way there - and then talked myself back into it. The temps were not too bad and the road conditions good, so of all winter nights, there was no reason to not go tonight.
The workout was an inverted ladder of 3-2-1-1-2-3 minutes hard with 90 seconds recovery between. I felt pretty sore from all the weekend activities so it did not feel great. I have a hard time gauging my speed with this group of runners, I always feel like I'm slow compared to most of them and that I'm really dragging, but I get home and check the Garmin data and the pace is not bad. Tonight was no exception. I felt really slow and then Garmin told me I ran my fastest mile. Which of course does not count because I stopped my watch for all the recovery intervals. Still, this surprised me.
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Afternoon all.
Nothing exciting to report today. Went for a 4k run, and the moment I pressed save on the activity, my watch reset! The run was saved, whew, but all my steps reset! And worse, it's the second time it's done it, it did the same thing on Monday.
If it happens again, I'm going to have to do a factory reset. Sigh. So annoying.
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Feb - goal 150k
Feb 1 - 7.2k
Feb 2 - 5k
Feb 3 - 7k
Feb 4 - 4k
Feb 5 - 5.4k
Feb 6 - 9k
Feb 7 - 3k
Feb 8 - 7k
Feb 9 - 4.2k
Feb 10 - 8k
Feb 11 - 4k
Total: 63.8k
Run streak - 53 days6 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »polskagirl01 wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!
Am I remembering correctly, that you were previously needing to stop around 10 miles, and this time made it a whole extra mile before that happened?
It does seem like maybe you're still worried about pace, though. I'm not sure it's going to work to go for both new distance AND a specific pace, right now, at the same time. But it will be totally fine if you prove me wrong on that!
I'm managing about an extra half mile each attempt. With or without extra fuel. I made one more extra half mile.
I do worry about pace. I'm going to try to set it aside, but I am doubtful that it is the problem. Does the heart rate data not sway you that pace might be appropriate?
I personally pay more attention to percieved effort level than in HR. There can be a lot of variability in HR data, but if your watch has the correct zones for you, almost your entire run was in red on the chart. That would make me think it was too fast... but I am definitely not an expert on that.
A little farther every time sounds about right. You're probably doing a LOT better than you think you are! Maybe your breakthrough is just around the corner. How's your sleep and recovery?1 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »polskagirl01 wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »Ok. So I stopped after work and got some Gatorade and a pack of M&M's. I started with water at 6 minutes, Gatorade at 12 minutes, alternating fluids every 6 minutes. There were 21 M&M's, so I divided 15 miles by 21 and found that 0.7 miles would get me to 14.7. Close enough. If the sugar doesn't hit the bloodstream for 20 minutes after consumption, anything at the tail end of the run doesn't much matter, anyway.
I got to 11 miles before I wanted to never run again. Here's my heart rate data. The little peaks are 1 minute intervals at 6.0(10:00/mile) and the majority of the run was at 5.1(11:46/mile.)
Adding sugar didn't help as much as I'd hoped. My lungs don't seem to be the problem, and I can usually push for a full hour at a higher heart rate than I attained for this whole run. I suppose I could still try slowing down more. I don't know if that will accomplish anything, or if I'll just give up at about the same *time* with a lesser distance accrued. The experiment is worthwhile.
I finished the Gatorade and all the M&M's, anyway.
Edited to add: Between keeping track of when the next interval, next M&M, next drink, and Zombies, Run! I was fully engaged the whole time!
Am I remembering correctly, that you were previously needing to stop around 10 miles, and this time made it a whole extra mile before that happened?
It does seem like maybe you're still worried about pace, though. I'm not sure it's going to work to go for both new distance AND a specific pace, right now, at the same time. But it will be totally fine if you prove me wrong on that!
I'm managing about an extra half mile each attempt. With or without extra fuel. I made one more extra half mile.
I do worry about pace. I'm going to try to set it aside, but I am doubtful that it is the problem. Does the heart rate data not sway you that pace might be appropriate?
I personally pay more attention to percieved effort level than in HR. There can be a lot of variability in HR data, but if your watch has the correct zones for you, almost your entire run was in red on the chart. That would make me think it was too fast... but I am definitely not an expert on that.
A little farther every time sounds about right. You're probably doing a LOT better than you think you are! Maybe your breakthrough is just around the corner. How's your sleep and recovery?
Zones are correct, color, however much I try, I can't seem to influence. Note that it says 0 minutes Peak. Can talk without grunting at end of run, but after 2 hours of effort, not much interest in chatting - and nobody to talk to. Recovery is probably better than sleep. My legs feel ready to go again, except maybe my knees, and I'm pretty sure this is the new normal. It's been over a year, and they seem to feel the same no matter what I've been doing. Except kneeling and crawling. They REALLY don't like that anymore. Sleep. Heh. I went to bed 8 hours ago and tried the whole time to make sleep happen. Second day in a row I was still trying to fall asleep when the alarm went off.
To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.3 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
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@janejellyroll Sorry you missed your race!
@autumnblade75 Hope you can figure out your fueling plan. I usually refuel with gu every 40 minutes on long runs, and they are 100 calories each, so I get about 150 an hour averaged.
No workout last night as I worked late and then finished packing for vacation! I did get in 2.4 miles on Sunday. Tonight, I will go to my pump class and try to get in a couple of miles after.
29.4 miles for February4 -
I really need to get to grips with the HR Zones. According to my age based max HR of 171 so I am working in zone 3 which seems to suit me. I have a tempo run tomorrow which is zone 4 so I will see how we go.
My average on an 8.25 miles run last night was 141 with a peak of 160 on the two inclines . My HRR was 96, 89,84 so I don't think there is anything to worry about though it is confusing depending on who you listen to.
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2-1 7k easy + yoga
2-2 11k slow
2-3 7k easy + resistance bands
2-4 rest + yoga
2-5 7k slow + resistance bands
2-6 7k slow + yoga
2-7 rest + resistance bands
2-8 7k easy + yoga
2-9 8.2k moderate
2-10 7k moderate + resistance bands
2-11 rest + yoga
February Total: 61.2k
February Goal: 140k
January Total: 161k
Running rest day today.
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
Run at least 4 5k races
Get a 5k PR
Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders3 -
PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.3 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Sorry, I missed your dislike of gummy bears, but that was just an example. For this to be effective you need simple carbs. Nuts are not simple carbs. I suggest you try something else. Experiment and see what works for you.
Plus that leaves more Gummy Bears for me, so it is a win-win, IMO
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My goals for 2020 are to stay injury free and healthy. I am also possibly going to try again for my first half marathon.
February goal : 70 miles
Plan goal: 76 miles
2/1 - 6 miles
2/3. - 3 miles
2/4 - 2 miles
2/5 - 2 miles
2/8 - 6.2 miles
2/10 - 3 miles
2/11 - 2 miles
Monthly total - 24.2 miles (3 miles behind)
I wanted 3 miles today but a few slips on the ice and a bathroom emergency changed my mind.
Races:
March 14:
St. Malachi 2 mile and 5 mile
May 16:
Cleveland Marathon Half and 5k
June 13 - 14:
Run and Ride Cedar Point 5k and Quarter Marathon
September 20:
Cleveland Hero's Run 5 miler
December 5:
Santa Hustle Cedar Point 5k9 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Are you running while eating? Maybe slow down or take a walk break. I was fueling my 16 milers with pretzels at about the 10 mile mark. I would usually take a walk break at this point. Before and after pretzels I used gu and chews. I plan to use pretzels and granola for the trails when I start building my miles back up with the gu and chews.
Maybe look into something other than gatorade? I used to drink that but I find some other stuff works better for me. There's so many options now.2 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Would something like Swedish Fish (maybe torn in half) work? Or Skittles?
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janejellyroll wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Would something like Swedish Fish (maybe torn in half) work? Or Skittles?
My wife uses mini-Swedishfish. Have to eat like 12 of them or something to get 1 serving, but they are much smaller.0 -
RunsOnEspresso wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Are you running while eating? Maybe slow down or take a walk break. I was fueling my 16 milers with pretzels at about the 10 mile mark. I would usually take a walk break at this point. Before and after pretzels I used gu and chews. I plan to use pretzels and granola for the trails when I start building my miles back up with the gu and chews.
Maybe look into something other than gatorade? I used to drink that but I find some other stuff works better for me. There's so many options now.
TailWind is highly recommended and many Marathon runners drink it as both all their fuel AND water AND electrolytes. Might be worth trying instead of trying to eat and run.1 -
PastorVincent wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »To address fuel, for the others upthread. I played with some calculators yesterday, and It seems that I could have tried harder to fuel. I was shooting for replacing 25% of the calories I burn per mile, but I may have underestimated. The rule of thumb seems to be 30% of the calories. Translated to per hour, I SHOULD have been aiming for 160-180 calories. I was on target to hit 127 calories per hour. They were Hazelnut M&M's, and those 21 candies counted for 180 calories. Yes, a whole bottle of Gatorade. 32 ounces. 200 calories. Another 30-50 calories per hour should have made the magic happen? It's a small enough experiment. I can try again.
Make sure those calories are from simple carbs though. Try something like gummy bears maybe? Nuts are not the best food for quick energy replacement.
I'm thinking of just replacing all fluids with Gatorade. 32 oz per hour. I know I already mentioned that gummy bears little arms and legs are a choking hazard for me. The M&M's really hammered home the point that I breathe differently when I'm eating - I prefer to TASTE my food, and trying to hurry up and chew the suckers well enough to swallow them before I accidentally breathed chocolate actually kind of SUCKED.
Would something like Swedish Fish (maybe torn in half) work? Or Skittles?
My wife uses mini-Swedishfish. Have to eat like 12 of them or something to get 1 serving, but they are much smaller.
Oh, I forgot about the minis. Yeah, I think those are a perfect size for running (for me, anyway).1 -
February Goal: 100 Miles
2/2: 10.05 miles
2/4: 6.02 miles
2/5: 2.10 miles
2/6: 3.52 miles
2/9: 10.10 miles
2/10: 6.31 miles
2/11: 6.31 miles
44.41/100 miles completed for February
154.67/1000 miles for Run the Year Team Pavement Pounders
It was not raining when I got up this morning so I went ahead and did my regular Tuesday run. I ran 6.3 miles again today, basically the same run as yesterday and it was a really good run. It was a little cooler than yesterday and I thought it might rain, but it never really did. About .5 miles in I felt a couple of drops and thought I might turn back, but after about a block they stopped so I just kept going figuring I could turn back if it started to rain. But it never did until I was about .25 miles from home. And then it was just a couple of more drops than at the beginning, but not really rain. Tomorrow morning has the highest chance of rain and I am planning to take a rest day. Even if it isn't raining I will still rest since I ran on Monday which is usually a rest day for me.
2020 races:
5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon7 -
This morning they announced on the radio, "Finally a break in the weather, there will be no snow or rain today," and it has been snowing for a good hour or two since they said that. Gotta love them trying to predict the future.
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As expected it was raining this morning (still is), so hopped on the dreadmill. Plan was for 4.5 miles/ Had a warmup walk then set it at 10 min mile and Garmin says I'm doing 7 ish min/miles lol.
That is way off even with the "treadmill" setting on the watch. I finished at 4.62 miles per the treadmill, but my watch had me at 5.77! in 50 minutes! Hooray for my PR! Sigh. If only it were true.5
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