Coronavirus prep

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  • MikePfirrman
    MikePfirrman Posts: 3,307 Member
    edited January 2021
    SModa61 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    I live for disagrees >:)

    All kind of information out making it seem as if AZ is the worst place on the planet, and it might be. I dunno know. I'm just glad I'm a semi hermit. We are going to San Diego next week to see my son (and celebrate our 30th Anniversary). That's the son that already had Covid, so at least I believe we're good seeing him. We are renting an AirBnB and pretty much going to behave just like we do here -- eat at home, buy groceries and order take out and that's about it. The only difference being that we'll be two blocks from Seal Beach in La Jolla while doing it. I'm thinking for extra good measure, I'll take a can or two of Lysol just to spray in the place when we get there and then open up the windows and let it air out. Oh, and we'll drive. It's only around 6 hours from here to there. I actually quite enjoy the drive through the sand dunes to the mountains and then down to the ocean.

    California is likely safer than AZ right now with most everything being shut down.

    Mike do you know that the governor asks people from other states or countries NOT to come to California?
    I don't know how things are in Arizona, but California is not safe right now, unlesds not COVID safe. Our hospitals and ICUs capacity are maxed out.

    Coronavirus: Due to the coronavirus pandemic, California has imposed a regional stay-at-home order and banned non-essential travel throughout the state except in a region north of Sonoma County. Governor Gavin Newsom said he was “pulling the emergency brake” with this announcement, which restricts hotel stays for leisure travel and other business activity in affected areas. You can find more details here.

    "California public health officials have recommended that visitors from out of state, including California residents, quarantine for 14 days after entering or returning to California."

    https://www.visitcalifornia.com/latest-covid-19-coronavirus/

    I'd love not to go but I'm not losing 2K either. AirBNB isn't forcing home owners to refund money.

    Agree. that's why when we rented a cabin for a few days over Christmas we rented one with the latest cancellation date in the area.

    Yeah, it's the CA Governor protecting the people owning the properties but not those renting them. So, if they really wanted to keep everyone out, force them to refund money. Now, I understand what economic toll that would take on these people that rent homes, and I'm very sad for that. But they know if you rent a home and can't get a refund that you'll be coming. They have made all hotels in CA not be able to take short term stays. That's smart. But the hotel chains are getting killed financially.

    Look, I've been sheltering in place the entire flippin' pandemic. If everyone acted as responsibly as me, we wouldn't be in this position. And I will shelter in place while in CA. Nothing will change.

    I hope people get back to common sense soon.

    Last year in the Florida Keys, renters were kicked out and then they put a road block/resisdency check on the highway. As for refunds, county did not care. That was between the renter and rentor. If you were a renter that tried to stay behind, police were called by neighbors.

    The company I'm renting from owns nearly the entire street, so that's not happening. But I appreciate the warning. They have said you can come as long as you shelter in place, but the state is discouraging it, as they should.

    @missysippy930 - agreed. If the events of this week are any indication, pandemics will the last of our worries soon, sadly, but predictably.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,098 Member
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    Gisel2015 wrote: »
    MikePfirrman wrote: »
    I live for disagrees >:)

    All kind of information out making it seem as if AZ is the worst place on the planet, and it might be. I dunno know. I'm just glad I'm a semi hermit. We are going to San Diego next week to see my son (and celebrate our 30th Anniversary). That's the son that already had Covid, so at least I believe we're good seeing him. We are renting an AirBnB and pretty much going to behave just like we do here -- eat at home, buy groceries and order take out and that's about it. The only difference being that we'll be two blocks from Seal Beach in La Jolla while doing it. I'm thinking for extra good measure, I'll take a can or two of Lysol just to spray in the place when we get there and then open up the windows and let it air out. Oh, and we'll drive. It's only around 6 hours from here to there. I actually quite enjoy the drive through the sand dunes to the mountains and then down to the ocean.

    California is likely safer than AZ right now with most everything being shut down.

    Mike do you know that the governor asks people from other states or countries NOT to come to California?
    I don't know how things are in Arizona, but California is not safe right now, unlesds not COVID safe. Our hospitals and ICUs capacity are maxed out.

    Coronavirus: Due to the coronavirus pandemic, California has imposed a regional stay-at-home order and banned non-essential travel throughout the state except in a region north of Sonoma County. Governor Gavin Newsom said he was “pulling the emergency brake” with this announcement, which restricts hotel stays for leisure travel and other business activity in affected areas. You can find more details here.

    "California public health officials have recommended that visitors from out of state, including California residents, quarantine for 14 days after entering or returning to California."

    https://www.visitcalifornia.com/latest-covid-19-coronavirus/

    I'd love not to go but I'm not losing 2K either. AirBNB isn't forcing home owners to refund money.

    Agree. that's why when we rented a cabin for a few days over Christmas we rented one with the latest cancellation date in the area.

    Yeah, it's the CA Governor protecting the people owning the properties but not those renting them. So, if they really wanted to keep everyone out, force them to refund money. Now, I understand what economic toll that would take on these people that rent homes, and I'm very sad for that. But they know if you rent a home and can't get a refund that you'll be coming. They have made all hotels in CA not be able to take short term stays. That's smart. But the hotel chains are getting killed financially.

    Look, I've been sheltering in place the entire flippin' pandemic. If everyone acted as responsibly as me, we wouldn't be in this position. And I will shelter in place while in CA. Nothing will change.

    I hope people get back to common sense soon.

    Last year in the Florida Keys, renters were kicked out and then they put a road block/resisdency check on the highway. As for refunds, county did not care. That was between the renter and rentor. If you were a renter that tried to stay behind, police were called by neighbors.

    The company I'm renting from owns nearly the entire street, so that's not happening. But I appreciate the warning. They have said you can come as long as you shelter in place, but the state is discouraging it, as they should.

    @missysippy930 - agreed. If the events of this week are any indication, pandemics will the last of our worries soon, sadly, but predictably.

    It was pretty crazy last year, while I understood the concerns of that county, some actions made no sense. They booted friends of ours that had been there already 6 weeks out of their 3 month rental. Made no sense to me. They were not new arrivals, so at that point in time, how different were they from any local. Ourselves, we are new owners down there and arrived on March 1, just before COVID really blew up, in our car with Massachusetts plates. Yup, that was not great for those next few months.

    Stay safe, stay healthy!
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,204 Member
    Theoldguy1 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Two articles about researchers finding a negative correlation between fitness and severity of Covid infection:

    https://www.wxyz.com/news/henry-ford-study-finds-better-aerobic-fitness-can-reduce-severe-effects-of-covid-19
    https://news.virginia.edu/content/exercise-may-protect-against-deadly-covid-19-complication-research-suggests

    Should I start posting these on the "Need Motivation" threads? (<== Joking. But anyone who's recently been following the "glamorizing obesity" thread in Debate will know why that idea occurred to me).

    ETA, truth in advertising: I haven't sought out the actual scientific publications yet, to the extent they may be available. I just ran across the topic in a radio report, looked up the articles starting from there, thought others here might be interested even though this is just the popular-press view.

    Nice articles but to be honest, probably not a whole lot of news IMO. I'm pretty sure all factors being equal someone in good aerobic condition will fare better then a person that isn't in regard to complications from any disease/illness.

    As would I: Should be the case that any positive health dimension helps a person survive many types of physical challenge. Still, I appreciate it when there's research that justifies common sense . . . because, from time to time, there's been some that turned "common sense" into "discredited myths". I thought the details about EcSOD/ARDS in the second article were interesting, too. 🤷‍♀️
  • The_Enginerd
    The_Enginerd Posts: 3,982 Member
    Southern CA here as well. We are under a regional stay at home order, but the only changes I've noticed are all dining being take out only, personal services such as barbers being closed, and gyms only operating outdoor operations. There is still plenty of traffic and people going out for "essential" trips. There are further restrictions regarding capacity for shops and such, but I don't really see that being followed and the mall traffic was still plenty heavy during the holidays. When I went to Home Depot to get some materials for home projects around the holidays it was uncomfortably busy, the line for In-and-Out was causing traffic back-ups and there were a ton of people at the shops in the shopping center.

    From the CA website:
    Retail: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity, and 35% of capacity for standalone grocery stores, with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
    Shopping centers: Allow indoor access at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.

    Yeah, I think the only time I've seen any metering is at the Trader Joe's, where there seems to frequently be a line dozen's deep.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    missysippy930 wrote: »
    Minnesota has an app, COVIDaware Minnesota, that supposedly notifies you if you’ve been in contact with someone that has covid. I’m assuming other states have it as well. I’ve had it on my phone since around Thanksgiving. I’m wondering if anyone has actually been notified about exposure through this app. It’s my understanding that it senses prolonged contact, 15 minutes or longer.

    It’s been active in parts of California for a while, but not mine. In December, it went state-wide. since it’s opt-in (and not mandatory like in other countries) I’m skeptical about its usefulness, but I figured it couldn’t hurt and activated it.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    (Not glove-hoarding, BTW. My local hospital system was taking donations of unopened boxes of gloves at first, so I donated the unopened one of the big 2-pack I'd recently bought at Costco for crafts use, but kept the open one. Not using them often any more, but have them ready, including a small bag of them in the car, just in case. Suspect using gloves to avoid getting paint on my face/clothes is good practice for not spreading viruses to my face/clothes, though not a perfect analog.)

    I don't think there's currently a shortage, is there? I got a bunch of them because my cat is taking a medicine that you rub into his ear wearing gloves, and so I ordered a package of gloves before picking up the medicine, only to learn that a glove was provided with the medicine. I don't use gloves, so would be happy to donate the box I bought if someone wanted it, but I don't think anyone does anymore.

    Depends on the kind of glove, I think. We’ve had to ration the nitrile gloves of a certain thickness for our custodians as those will protect their hands from the sanitizing spray. We have other gloves of all kinds for everyone else as a germ barrier.
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »
    I got the pfizer vaccine this morning. Just feel achey in my arm like I always do with the flu vaccine but a lot more achey. I have a weak immune system too so I was a little nervous (I was sick for a week after the chicken pox vaccine) but so far I feel good. I expect to probably feel a little run down the next few days, but that is way better than getting COVID.

    I will definitely still be wearing a mask at all times and so will my coworkers since you can still spread the virus if you get it. They say mask wearing will be required even after the booster shot and immunity develops since there is still a small chance you can still get it. I actually wonder if wearing a mask in the hospitals might continue even long after COVID to prevent other airborne infections. Flu cases have been way down this year because of mask wearing.

    Sounds like a good plan. You can still get the flu when you’ve had the flu shot. Makes sense with this as well.

    And flu is down this season. Likely because of all the precautions we’re taking for COVID.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    (Not glove-hoarding, BTW. My local hospital system was taking donations of unopened boxes of gloves at first, so I donated the unopened one of the big 2-pack I'd recently bought at Costco for crafts use, but kept the open one. Not using them often any more, but have them ready, including a small bag of them in the car, just in case. Suspect using gloves to avoid getting paint on my face/clothes is good practice for not spreading viruses to my face/clothes, though not a perfect analog.)

    I don't think there's currently a shortage, is there? I got a bunch of them because my cat is taking a medicine that you rub into his ear wearing gloves, and so I ordered a package of gloves before picking up the medicine, only to learn that a glove was provided with the medicine. I don't use gloves, so would be happy to donate the box I bought if someone wanted it, but I don't think anyone does anymore.

    Depends on the kind of glove, I think. We’ve had to ration the nitrile gloves of a certain thickness for our custodians as those will protect their hands from the sanitizing spray. We have other gloves of all kinds for everyone else as a germ barrier.

    Mine are the cheapo gloves, nothing special. Someone who wears them when they go out might find them useful, but they seem to be generally available.

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