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  • T1DCarnivoreRunnerT1DCarnivoreRunner Member Posts: 11,054 Member Member Posts: 11,054 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    Just sayin', if anyone thinks "they just have a cold", it's one heck of a lot easier to catch the Coronvirus than a cold. If they think they have a cold or allergies, they have Coronavirus and they are in denial. It's not allergy season anywhere in the US right now. Be careful!

    I have no idea how accurate your statement is but, to both my dh and me, this has felt like most colds for us(thank goodness!). If numbers weren't popping here and if there hadn't been positive cases where dh works, I would've called anybody crazy for making us get tested. Well, not really, but YKWIM. We're definitely 2 of the lucky ones. Seeing pictures in the news of trucks packed with bodies makes it all too real of what it is in some places. :(

    A nurse I know that works in a Covid unit recently mentioned that she can always tell when a new Covid patient comes in whether they will survive or not. She's guessed wrong only once. When asked how she can tell, her response was:
    It is by no means an exact science it’s typically a combination of past medical history, current health, ability and effort put forth to care for ones self, gender/age/ethnicity, prior living arrangements, weight and then instinct.
  • rheddmobilerheddmobile Member Posts: 5,773 Member Member Posts: 5,773 Member
    So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...
  • T1DCarnivoreRunnerT1DCarnivoreRunner Member Posts: 11,054 Member Member Posts: 11,054 Member
    So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...

    Someone should make indoor litter boxes for dogs... like a big un-covered litter box with a fire hydrant in the corner or something.

    ETA: I checked Amazon and apparently was not even close to the first person to come up with this idea. There are lots of options.
    edited November 22
  • fmodajrfmodajr Member Posts: 1 Member Member Posts: 1 Member
    So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...

    Great question. I have cats, but weird ones. They get walked on leashes like a dog....
  • paperpuddingpaperpudding Member Posts: 6,180 Member Member Posts: 6,180 Member
    So I have a question for any Australians out there: if dog walking is banned, where are dogs supposed to do their business? Not everyone has a yard...

    it wasnt Australians - it was only South Australians.

    For 6 days - which got reduced to 3.

    If you lived in an apartment with a dog, (which isn't going to be many people in South Australia) I guess you took it out to the backyard or lawn area of your building or on to the footpath, (sidewalk to americans) let it do its poo and then pick it up, bin it (as you should do all the time anyway) and go back inside.
    Like slimjo said.

  • JustSomeEmJustSomeEm Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 18,485 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 18,485 MFP Moderator
    USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.

    Thanks for that - interesting read. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/11/21/covid-and-thanksgiving-how-we-celebrated-during-1918-flu-pandemic/6264231002/

    While looking for that one, I also found this one which is also interesting and sad: https://www.whio.com/news/trending/1918-flu-pandemic-letters-shed-light-how-similar-coronavirus-pandemic-is-past-outbreak/S4MMHFYC6RAP7AJ7KNK5TWAOVQ/
  • jenilla1jenilla1 Member Posts: 10,246 Member Member Posts: 10,246 Member
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    USA Today has a story reporting the timeline and results of the virus from 1918. It’s interesting how similar our situation is today. I can’t copy the link, but the reporter’s name is Grace Hauck, and the article was 11/22/20. Check it out.

    Thanks for that - interesting read. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/11/21/covid-and-thanksgiving-how-we-celebrated-during-1918-flu-pandemic/6264231002/

    While looking for that one, I also found this one which is also interesting and sad: https://www.whio.com/news/trending/1918-flu-pandemic-letters-shed-light-how-similar-coronavirus-pandemic-is-past-outbreak/S4MMHFYC6RAP7AJ7KNK5TWAOVQ/

    Wow. It really IS similar. It's almost like history repeating itself...thanks for the links.
  • snowflake954snowflake954 Member Posts: 5,546 Member Member Posts: 5,546 Member
    Italy--A famous historian was asked about past pandemics and he noted how similar they were with COVID. EVEN with modern medicine the course is similar. Modern man thinks he can beat this with science, whereas there was resignation and prayers in the past. It's frightening how this monster just keeps advancing.
  • kimny72kimny72 Member Posts: 15,528 Member Member Posts: 15,528 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    The folks at This Week in Virology are REALLY excited about mRNA vaccines. They looked at whatever public data was available for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and said that while it's still on a small scale, the numbers are far better than they expected. And there is a hint that even if someone who is vaccinated becomes infected, they will be more likely to have a mild case. And if both companies are able to produce the vaccine at the levels they are advertising, that will be impressive as well.

    They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff :smiley:

    Very interesting! I worked in a lab who was studying efficacy of mRNA influenza vaccines a few years ago. First we tested it on HEK293 cells and then proceeded to animals. One of the projects I worked on was testing the mRNA virus efficacy in preventing certain strains of flu in mice. We had great results and the group published quite a few papers on it. Their next big project was trying to get a grant to begin testing on human subjects. Haven't talked with them since I was a part of their lab a few years ago, but this reminded me I should email and see if they ever got the grant and what happened to the project.

    It is a lot better because it allows you to change the vaccine more quickly than using DNA and thus better match the vaccine for certain mutations and strain variants faster. I wonder if future COVID vaccines will use this technology. I think it depends on how fast the virus mutates and how many different strains are actually going around. (Which I don't think they quite know yet.)

    I'd bet projects like that will have a much better chance of getting grants as these first covid vaccines progress! They did mention something about flu vaccines, but I was lost in the scientific terminology weeds at that point :lol:
  • lkpduckylkpducky Member Posts: 11,886 Member Member Posts: 11,886 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    They said that if these numbers turn out to be even close to accurate on a large scale, the "discovery" of mRNA vaccination will be one of the most impressive successes in modern medicine. There is already work being done to see if this technology can be used on other viruses that no effective vaccine has been possible for previously, or improved efficacy over existing vaccines. Basically, the mRNA particles were not discovered while trying to develop a vaccine - they were just being studied in labs as a curious new particle until someone noticed what they did and how they could be used and made the connection. Exciting stuff :smiley:

    Or even cancer
    Here's a good story of the history of mRNA therapeutics
    https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/?utm_source=pocket-newtab&fbclid=IwAR0s8kjoK4AhcuewJe7QkbzfolGcxfsLtQUme12VTcoViyhw08au6ufiRtU

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