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I admit, I was kind of all WTF about the number of people who said "get the DIL to cook". Men can cook too, y'know?
I almost suggested the DIL too then went with the gender-neutral "other adults". Although odds are high that the expectation will fall on the women. I was a DIL once. The men didn't pitch in with holiday meals.
One of my all-time pet peeves and has nothing to do with Covid.
I (and all the other attending women of course) was the one expected to cook. DH grilled a couple times a year and got so much praise over those hamburgers. Must be all the salads and desserts magically appeared by themselves. 
Now carry on Covid followers
Ironically the restaurant industry is male dominant. 🤷♀️10 -
The new COVID-19 variant in the UK has caused Denmark Sweden Italy and other European countries to shut down all flights to and from the Uk.
In Wales,as reported by the BBC a person catches the new COVID virus every 2.5 minutes. So there will be a harsh lockdown effective immediately. The new variant is far more easy to catch and so far it isn’t MORE deadly, but already they are seeing more hospitalizations.🙏🏼😢❤️💛🧡14 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I don’t know what it is about laundromats. My daughter says there are a lot of unmasked people there when she goes too. As far as cough drops go, my mother and husband have them all the time. I guess it helps with dry mouth issues. 🤷🏻♀️
Laundromats, just like any other building, should have a security officer at the door insisting on a mask before entering and possibly doing temperature checks. Also, hand sanitization on the way in. This is all "normal" everywhere I go now.
In the US many laundromats are unstaffed on a regular basis and often a minimal number of customers at any one time. They aren't going to hire a security guard and nobody is going to apply for a job as an unarmed security to enforce mask mandates at $12 an hour.
Yes, that is the case with this laundromat. It's open 24 hours and staffed only part of that time... M-F during the day and then someone comes in twice per day (I think) to clean and empty money and such. The employee / manager when I see her doesn't wear a mask. While I do not expect them to hire security or anything, it would be nice if the employees would wear masks when they come in and if they would post signs on the doors. I believe that would improve mask usage at least a little bit. Usually I'm the only person there with a mask, sometimes there is 1 other. Often there are around 10-15 people total (sometimes more and sometimes less) when I'm there.6 -
I admit, I was kind of all WTF about the number of people who said "get the DIL to cook". Men can cook too, y'know?
I almost suggested the DIL too then went with the gender-neutral "other adults". Although odds are high that the expectation will fall on the women. I was a DIL once. The men didn't pitch in with holiday meals.
One of my all-time pet peeves and has nothing to do with Covid. I (and all the other attending women of course) was the one expected to cook. DH grilled a couple times a year and got so much praise over those hamburgers. Must be all the salads and desserts magically appeared by themselves.
Now carry on Covid followers
Ironically, I do about 95% of the holiday cooking for both Thanksgiving and Christmas...I actually love it. I don't trust anyone else with my turkey or rib roast or Yorkshire pudding. I don't bake though...so somebody has to do desert...though I've made a couple batches of cookies this year for some reason. I've never made a cookie in my life until this year.8 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I don’t know what it is about laundromats. My daughter says there are a lot of unmasked people there when she goes too. As far as cough drops go, my mother and husband have them all the time. I guess it helps with dry mouth issues. 🤷🏻♀️
Laundromats, just like any other building, should have a security officer at the door insisting on a mask before entering and possibly doing temperature checks. Also, hand sanitization on the way in. This is all "normal" everywhere I go now.
In the US many laundromats are unstaffed on a regular basis and often a minimal number of customers at any one time. They aren't going to hire a security guard and nobody is going to apply for a job as an unarmed security to enforce mask mandates at $12 an hour.
Yes, that is the case with this laundromat. It's open 24 hours and staffed only part of that time... M-F during the day and then someone comes in twice per day (I think) to clean and empty money and such. The employee / manager when I see her doesn't wear a mask. While I do not expect them to hire security or anything, it would be nice if the employees would wear masks when they come in and if they would post signs on the doors. I believe that would improve mask usage at least a little bit. Usually I'm the only person there with a mask, sometimes there is 1 other. Often there are around 10-15 people total (sometimes more and sometimes less) when I'm there.
This would make me so angry. If everyone had done as requested and worn masks, etc., etc. we might not be in the situation where cases are rising so rapidly.
Due to the surge in cases, the hospital where my husband receives treatment reinstated the policy that no one can accompany patients (there are some exceptions). I have to attend his medical appointments over speaker phone and it is really hard. I can't go with him to his treatments or tests. It makes it so much harder on him to have to do these things alone.
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I must apologize for my earlier rants. Every December I get a little hot with the anniversary of my dad passing and him leaving me with the mantel...there is nobody left except me and trying to do the best I can with my wife and kids. @snowflake954 ...happy birthday...I love this community...love you guys...happy holidays, merry Christmas...and happy anything else you celebrate...see you on the flip of a new year...Hugs everyone....31
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It feels warm and fuzzy in here...8
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I must apologize for my earlier rants. Every December I get a little hot with the anniversary of my dad passing and him leaving me with the mantel...there is nobody left except me and trying to do the best I can with my wife and kids. @snowflake954 ...happy birthday...I love this community...love you guys...happy holidays, merry Christmas...and happy anything else you celebrate...see you on the flip of a new year...Hugs everyone....
FWIW, that (earlier post) didn't sound like you, based on history.
I think this is a tough time of year for a lot of people. Sure is, for me (year-end holidays always are). I empathize with the "short fuse" idea you've implied. Add on that this is a tough, tough year for almost everyone . . . well, I think we need to each give ourselves a bit of grace, and (bigger) give other people that same bit of grace (if not more, because we don't know their circumstances) . . . in the moments where we have the personal strengths to grant that grace to either, which is far from always.
Like you, I routinely struggle in December. December 3 is my wedding anniversary. This year it was anniversary #43, for a marriage that ended in my beloved spouse's death, in year (almost) 21 of marriage, and more years than that of being together. Parents deceased, spouse deceased, no children, only child, I fight low moods at Christmas/New Years, don't always win.
It's even harder at this holiday season: Usually, the continuing love and kindness of my in-laws, who kept me after spouse's death, are a great comfort. This year, I can't be with them; I'm by myself. My emphatic plan is to do the absolute best with that, that I can manage, in part as tribute to their (and others') kindness. Not easy, for me; working at it.
This has (bleep)-all to do with the topic of this thread. Apologies, to those who care about that. Wishing all happy holidays, with gratitude for the plenty I truly have.33 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I must apologize for my earlier rants. Every December I get a little hot with the anniversary of my dad passing and him leaving me with the mantel...there is nobody left except me and trying to do the best I can with my wife and kids. @snowflake954 ...happy birthday...I love this community...love you guys...happy holidays, merry Christmas...and happy anything else you celebrate...see you on the flip of a new year...Hugs everyone....
Merry Christmas. It'll be hot here so we'll be swimming after lunch with the new pool toys. All cold food will make it simpler for me. Husband will make some roast chickens the night before. I'll make my kind of famous lemon tart Ice cream, lychees, cherries too. Gone over board as always with cheese from all over the world including a truffle cheese I've not tried before.
Oh I forgot the bad news. Sydney is being locked out from the rest of our states. Bit of a Covid issue going on. Guess it's lucky I wasn't flying to see family.14 -
US army scientists examine new UK coronavirus variant to see if it might be resistant to vaccine
The vaccines are still useful because viruses mutate constantly, but typically not in ways that would render a vaccine useless, said Dr. William Schaffner, an advisor to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on vaccines.
"Even with mutations, the virus essentially stays the same," Schaffner said. "It's like with a person. I can switch out my brown coat for a gray coat, but I'm still Bill Schaffner. I've changed something, but I'm still the same person."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/health/walter-reed-covid-19-variant/index.html11 -
If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is5
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.6 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.6 -
rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.
Yeah, I'd like to see the widow changed with something. Per the article she knew he had symptoms.4 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.
Yeah, I'd like to see the widow changed with something. Per the article she knew he had symptoms.
So he lied, she's responsible?
Sure.8 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I must apologize for my earlier rants. Every December I get a little hot with the anniversary of my dad passing and him leaving me with the mantel...there is nobody left except me and trying to do the best I can with my wife and kids. @snowflake954 ...happy birthday...I love this community...love you guys...happy holidays, merry Christmas...and happy anything else you celebrate...see you on the flip of a new year...Hugs everyone....
Thanks cwolf---it's all good. I know. Stress is hitting us all hard this year. Stay safe and happy with your family.8 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.
Yeah, I'd like to see the widow changed with something. Per the article she knew he had symptoms.
I didn't hit disagree but I'm not sure I agree either. The widow has already lost enough, charging her won't teach her anything.
Maybe have her create a 'real life scenario' video or something. But people STILL won't adhere to rules and mandates because that's how much they want to see family, and deny it won't happen to them.
I think it's another one of those 'I'm in denial' cases, sadly at the expense of others. I saw this a.m., someone in the news(edited the name out because of politics rules 
) that traveled despite mandates against traveling? Someone who writes and imposes the guidelines should certainly abide by them themselves or else that person, and the guidelines become much less credible. So many people are STILL in denial and/or of the 'do as I say, not as I do' mindset. I see it everywhere.
It's such a difficult heart-breaking thing to see. Technically my niece isn't supposed to cross state borders to visit her parents for Christmas. But her dad is close to dying and her mother is.....well, her mom is completely lost right now. To leave her on her own at Christmas??? I'm not sure that *I* could obey the rules, especially seeing so many not listening themselves, people who certainly know better. My niece is one of the most careful people I've seen throughout this whole event. And she drives in, no flying for her. IDK There is a certain amount of validity behind everybody's reasoning for what they're doing, even if it doesn't make it right and is only seen from their own perspective. 18 -
Rennie, that’s so heartbreaking. A horrible decision to have to make.
Getting on a plane has been risky business from the start. It’s one of the ways this spread so rapidly.
If the airlines want to keep flying, maybe they should do rapid testing for all people before they board flights.
I’m not so sure that it’s fair to charge the widow. A Minnesota state senator flew to Florida and started having symptoms the day he flew in November. Another Minnesota state senator died the other day from complications from covid contracted at the same function.
People that still want to fly, have to be aware of the risk involved. Groups of people in small enclosed areas etc.1 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.
Yeah, I'd like to see the widow changed with something. Per the article she knew he had symptoms.
So he lied, she's responsible?
Sure.
As I understand the story, they were traveling together, both filled out the forms, she knew he had symptoms and was lying (if not, he couldn't travel), and when he had a medical emergency on the plane she acknowledged that he had obvious covid symptoms before.
I don't know how much of this is confirmed -- too much seems to rely on Twitter, for example, and I don't trust stuff people claim on Twitter (are there lots of people who would pretend to be passengers with inside information for attention or to make a point on Twitter? yes, sadly) -- but to the extent it is true, she is certainly has some moral responsibility.5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »If we thought laundromats were bad, planes seem to be even worse. Once again, someone with Covid symptoms got on a plane on Dec. 14. This one died from Covid while om the plane. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/a-man-with-covid-symptoms-died-on-a-plane-and-the-cdc-is
So the guy checked off he didn't have Covid related symptoms them as the EMTs are taking him off the planr the wife says he had Covid related symptoms including lack of taste and smell?
Someone's going to have some explaining to to why she allowed him to get on the plane without notifying anyone.
I think it’s pretty much understood that he lied to get on the plane. They used fancier language but that’s what the airline said.
Yeah, I'd like to see the widow changed with something. Per the article she knew he had symptoms.
So he lied, she's responsible?
Sure.
Assuming the report is true as written (and of course we all know what happens when we assume), yes I feel she is. If he had been tested (or the test was returned earlier) she was a close contact and would not have met the criteria to fly either. If she was honest since she stated he had Covid that meant she lied filling out her own survey.
She let a person that she knew that had all the symptoms get on a plane without stopping him. To me if someone dies or is seriously harmed due to this it's pretty much the same situation as a host letting a guest drive drunk.5
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