Please don't police my thoughts:

EricJonrosh
EricJonrosh Posts: 823 Member
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Okay our town caught fire today so I went up and took video. It's all contained, thank you for your concern. When I posted it on FB, I said "sorry for the gay commentary" because I was giving all kinds of overly excited commentary about the helicopters dropping water and people hosing their rooftops. Next thing you know some actual gay person is rapping me for using the word gay. Honestly I never once thought of myself as "homosexual" when hearing my commentary about the helicopters and how badly I wanted to be a pilot of one and wearing a helmet. I was actually thinking of myself of being overly jolly and excited, which is ALSO a definition of gay. Apparently, though, gay has to always mean homosexual, and if it doesn't, whatever the Though Police think you meant is what you're saying about all homosexuals.
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  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.
  • EricJonrosh
    EricJonrosh Posts: 823 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.

    OR maybe certain crusaders have become selectively and politically uptight. Gay is an old term that has many meanings. None of my gay friends care that I use "gay," but I do notice certain crusaders with overly sensitive political agendas will call out certain uses of words. What's funny is the same people will throw around tremendously hateful and disparaging terms to people they disagree with, as if it's totally consistent with the tolerance they promote.
  • snazzyjazzy21
    snazzyjazzy21 Posts: 1,298 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.

    OR maybe certain crusaders have become selectively and politically uptight. Gay is an old term that has many meanings. None of my gay friends care that I use "gay," but I do notice certain crusaders with overly sensitive political agendas will call out certain uses of words. What's funny is the same people will throw around tremendously hateful and disparaging terms to people they disagree with, as if it's totally consistent with the tolerance they promote.

    You know the 'well none of my friends' argument is kinda weak, right? It's disrespectful to a lot people, so don't do it, easy. They get harassed and discriminated enough, without having their sexuality used as a negative term.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    And the "n" word used to have a different meaning as well, but societal norms have changed. You are aware of this and there are plenty of other words that could have been used appropriately in its place. So you either misspoke thoughtlessly, or you're intentionally trying to stir the pot using a rather weak argument to support your case.
  • onwarddownward
    onwarddownward Posts: 1,683 Member
    Silly, rambling, verbose, imaginative, ludicrose...all better words to describe what your original post talks about.

    When in doubt - don't.
  • Tatonka_usn
    Tatonka_usn Posts: 433 Member
    Sounds like the Thought Police are alive and well around here.....
  • madworld1
    madworld1 Posts: 524
    Sounds like the Thought Police are alive and well around here.....

    This. Sensitivity is abundant these days.
  • snazzyjazzy21
    snazzyjazzy21 Posts: 1,298 Member
    Sounds like the Thought Police are alive and well around here.....

    This. Sensitivity is abundant these days.

    We prefer the term 'decent human beings'.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Sounds like the Thought Police are alive and well around here.....

    Highly.constructive.
  • EricJonrosh
    EricJonrosh Posts: 823 Member
    Sounds like the Thought Police are alive and well around here.....

    Really? haha

    I was never in doubt, neither would I let political correctness dictate my speech. If these Thought/Speech Police are such victims why do they turn around and insult those whose politics they dislike? Yes, I argue that I have gay friends, and they're fun, hilarious, smart, ambitious and I would jump in front of a bus for any one of them. They don't police my thought, nor do I theirs.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Well, have fun with that, despite there being plenty of other words that you can use in its place. :flowerforyou:
  • vtmoon
    vtmoon Posts: 3,436 Member
    And the "n" word used to have a different meaning as well, but societal norms have changed. You are aware of this and there are plenty of other words that could have been used appropriately in its place. So you either misspoke thoughtlessly, or you're intentionally trying to stir the pot using a rather weak argument to support your case.

    My thoughts exactly.
  • TheBaileyHunter
    TheBaileyHunter Posts: 641 Member

    You know the 'well none of my friends' argument is kinda weak, right? It's disrespectful to a lot people, so don't do it, easy. They get harassed and discriminated enough, without having their sexuality used as a negative term.

    ^^^ THIS ^^^
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    Okay our town caught fire today so I went up and took video. It's all contained, thank you for your concern. When I posted it on FB, I said "sorry for the gay commentary" because I was giving all kinds of overly excited commentary about the helicopters dropping water and people hosing their rooftops. Next thing you know some actual gay person is rapping me for using the word gay. Honestly I never once thought of myself as "homosexual" when hearing my commentary about the helicopters and how badly I wanted to be a pilot of one and wearing a helmet. I was actually thinking of myself of being overly jolly and excited, which is ALSO a definition of gay. Apparently, though, gay has to always mean homosexual, and if it doesn't, whatever the Though Police think you meant is what you're saying about all homosexuals.
    Cool. I would have gladly named one of my girls Gaye. It's such a beautiful word. I have a relative who's name is Gaye. You can use the word gay if you want to. It certainly has that meaning, and it's a good one.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    Well, have fun with that, despite there being plenty of other words that you can use in its place. :flowerforyou:
    I will be using the word gay regularly now.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.

    OR maybe certain crusaders have become selectively and politically uptight. Gay is an old term that has many meanings. None of my gay friends care that I use "gay," but I do notice certain crusaders with overly sensitive political agendas will call out certain uses of words. What's funny is the same people will throw around tremendously hateful and disparaging terms to people they disagree with, as if it's totally consistent with the tolerance they promote.
    Right. Some hypocrisy will inevitably show up. It nearly ALWAYS does.
  • gonnamakeanewaccount
    gonnamakeanewaccount Posts: 642 Member
    Dude, who cares?

    You know how you meant it, so move on. No need to dwell.
  • vtmoon
    vtmoon Posts: 3,436 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.

    OR maybe certain crusaders have become selectively and politically uptight. Gay is an old term that has many meanings. None of my gay friends care that I use "gay," but I do notice certain crusaders with overly sensitive political agendas will call out certain uses of words. What's funny is the same people will throw around tremendously hateful and disparaging terms to people they disagree with, as if it's totally consistent with the tolerance they promote.
    Right. Some hypocrisy will inevitably show up. It nearly ALWAYS does.

    Lemmings!
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    What, vtmoon?:smile:
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Came for the handcuffs and frisking...found none. I iz disappoint.

    Herc_is_Disappointed.gif
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Sorry OP, if you were wearing a top hat and adjusting your monocle while using the word "gay" then I might have believed you meant jolly :laugh:
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member
    Depends on context really doesn't it OP...

    As in gay used in a demeaning sense would imply that being homosexual is somehow wrong, and if that were the case here than yes your use of the term "gay" warrants people being offended.

    Did you really use it in the sense of "jolly"?

    Personally I think it is uncool to use as a derogatory description.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.
    If our language can create and use new words, then, we can revive and use old ones.
  • toaster6
    toaster6 Posts: 703 Member
    If you don't think what you said was wrong or hurtful, tell it to the person who took issue with it and get over it. Why dwell on it? You can't complain that people are policing your thoughts if you are the one making a big deal about it.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.
    If our language can create and use new words, then, we can revive and use old ones.

    Except I doubt the OP was using it in a positive "gay" type matter....but hey OP...post the link and we'll be better able to judge.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Well, have fun with that, despite there being plenty of other words that you can use in its place. :flowerforyou:
    I will be using the word gay regularly now.

    Which means you are doing it to stir the pot and nothing more. Not that I am surprised.
  • kenna44cat
    kenna44cat Posts: 105 Member
    I had a woman friend once whose first name was Gay and her last name was something innocuous. She told me one time that she was going to change her name. It was her last name she changed, haha, I think gay is a very nice and pleasant old word, and there are Christmas carols and songs we still sing who use it to mean "happy." I am a friend of Dorothy, too.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    This thread is not gay. However, there may be gay people responding to the thread. However, no one will be policing my thoughts about whether or not I think being gay is right or wrong. And I happen to like the word gay, glad you reminded me about that word. I will be using the word gay more regularly now. I like it.
    I especially like that you used the word gay in your commentary. It's a great word!!
  • Ophidion
    Ophidion Posts: 2,065 Member

    Except I doubt the OP was using it in a positive "gay" type matter....but hey OP...post the link and we'll be better able to judge.
    Agreed, I think the OP protest his innocence too much, with out link seems a little dubious.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    *eyeroll*

    You live in the US, where the word "gay" has not been used to describe jolly behavior in decades. Just own up that you said something thoughtless and move on.
    If our language can create and use new words, then, we can revive and use old ones.

    Except I doubt the OP was using it in a positive "gay" type matter....but hey OP...post the link and we'll be better able to judge.


    Even if he meant it in a positive way, at some point he made the choice to use a controversial word when he is fully aware of it also being a disparaging term. So, he either meant the negative or for some reason uses it to create the drama so he can use the "alternate meaning" argument.

    It would be like saying, "I hate *kitten*!" then, once called a homophobe, defending himself with "I meant it as a substitute for cigarettes!"

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