Women 200lb+, Let's Jump To It This July!!!
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Age: 36
Height: 5'5"
SW: I've started/stopped so many times.
CW: 200.6
7/4: 200.6
7/11: 199.2 (-1.4)
• coming up short on my steps
• coming up short on the number of workouts
• nutrition is more intentional: had 3x meals out this week and had a few drinks 1 night: need to respect my deficit goal more
7/18: 198.6 (-0.6)
7/25: 199.2 (+0.6)
• 3 days out from TOM, so not surprising
• had a few carb heavy/veggie light days
• still inconsistent with ... everything
• best step day = 17,000
• worst step day = 2,500
• average step day = 6,000
• no form of consistent exercise, no sleep routine
7/31:
GW for July: Anything less than current!
Goals:
- 8k daily step count, minimum
- Workout 4-5 days/week
- dial in my nutrition6 -
Starting weight: 270 March 2021
July Start Weight: 232.8
July Goal Weight: 228
Ultimate Goal Weight: TBD
I weigh in on Sundays.
July 4: 232.8
July 11: 229
July 18: 229
July 25: 229
Well, I didn't meet my July goal but it hasn't been because I have not been trying. It seems like I hit a plateau. I thought for sure this morning the scale would move. I was very disappointed and frustrated when I saw it didn't move. I did some reflecting this morning and I realized that even though the scale didn't move...again... I am doing everything right. I have been sticking to my workout routine, my muscles are becomming more pronounced in my arms and I am starting to feel them in my legs (under all my excess that is LOL), I have been working on my abs and notice I am becomming much stronger. I am noticing I have more energy and I am not getting winded when I engage in physical activity. I dropped sizes in shirts and pants. I finally took the plunge and invested in bras - smaller sizes of course. 2 coworkers, not knowing about my lifestyle changes, have commented on my progress!!!! I discovered I can sit with my legs crossed - not comfortably but I can do it. I gave myself a pedicure last night and was able to do it without feeling like I was out of breath from trying to reach my toes. For the first time ever I am on a 6 day streak for reaching my step goal of 10K. My glucose numbers have been in a good place.
Overall I am proud of myself and all my progress.
I have not had a chance to catch up on the thread. I hope everyone is doing well and I cheer each one of you on in your journey!
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Hello All,
I seem to make it on here once or twice a week on the weekends. I did skim through all of your posts for the week. I will try to keep up with at least checking in each weekend but this week I got back the results from the week before medical tests and it was bad news which distracted me from logging etc. My weight shot up while I wasn't looking as it does but with good home cooking this weekend I have it back down. I suspect that this will only motivate me more to try to get fit and eat right but I will also be distracted with medical issues and I suspect there are going to be times I won't be able to shop, cook, exercise all of which I need to lose weight. I hope to continue to work full-time throughout this but I haven't used hardly any sick leave, vacation or professional leave which I suspect I will be using. Then there is health and family leave if I need it. My job is limited duration and ends next spring. By then I will be mostly through treatment if all goes well. I need to work to get ready for retirement.
Next week I will find out more and until then I plan to eat healthy meals at home and get exercise every day starting today or tomorrow. I took Friday off last week so I have had a long weekend to do some transitioning however much of that time was spent on coordinating with siblings on my mother's care since she had minor surgery this past week.
At first you tend to try to continue as if nothing has changed then you realize no, you need to change everything to focus on dealing with a new situation. I guess the pandemic has prepared me for that. So I plan to keep trying to lose weight since it will only help me but it will take a back seat to dealing with this health issue.
I hope we all have a good successful week.8 -
@seltzer_lover I’ve heard of Orange Theory but don’t really know what it is.
@manny08phs you ARE worth it and you can do it!
@Imgoff232 and @JNettie73 great NSVs!
@goal06082021 those marshmallows sound delicious!
@57pattycake glad you got a new scale!
@JuneyCleaves you’ll get there!
@KeriA I’m so sorry to hear you’re having health problems. Please just take care of yourself! ❤️
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Well, we went to the reunion. I brought the only food that looked appetizing at all. and as it was, I'm used to eating more protein than was in the chicken noodles. So tonight I had a grilled chicken breast sandwich (homemade) and some strawberries, and now I feel better.
I think next year I'm just going to have to bring my own meal and not even try to assemble something else.6 -
wanderinglight wrote: »Thank you so much, @RavenStCloud!
I think it was this time last year that I found your threads. I wish I could say I've made some awesome progress in the past year, but I've unfortunately had a few setbacks. I'm not letting it discourage me though! This month I'm going to weigh ever day and post my weight on Fridays.
Height: 5'11"
Age: 50
Highest weight: 226.6 (May 2021)
Current weight: 223.8 (June 30, 2021)
7/2:
7/9:
7/16:
7/23:
7/30:
Goal for July: Under 220
I'm working on accepting that the scale fluctuates a LOT for me. It's not unusual to see that I'm up 3 or even 4lbs from day to day. This makes it really hard to feel like I'm making progress because there is never a clear downward trend. I just don't drop weight quickly. Not sure if it's metabolism or what, but the most I can seem to manage is 4lbs. So these fluctuations really mess with my head and make me feel like nothing is working. Luckily, I have an app that smooths out the spikes and that is helping. I've also started my own diary thread here where I simply post my weight every day. It's all about the big picture.
Anyway! I love July 1 because it's like a mini New Year. A great time to take stock of plans and set goals for the next six months.
Last summer I fell in love with kayaking, and this year I'd like to try stand up paddling. I'm also swimming regularly at the local pool. I wish they stayed open until like 10pm but unfortunately they're only open from 1-6 and its SO HOT and no shade during that time here in Texas. I'd give anything for a pool where I could swim in the mornings. But at this point I'll take what I can get and will find a way to make it work!
Onward!
Focus on your measurements instead of the dreadful scale...it's helped encourage me more as I can feel my pants getting loose, but know if I weigh myself it may not be the number I want to see as we sometimes forget that we gain muscle. Sending positive encouragement your way!!!2 -
so my weight has been stable this month, we've had a week's vacation with travel and eating out, and my # hasn't really changed - a # or two, pretty sure that is water weight. What I find disconcerting is my body shape seems to be changing. I can wear clothes I haven't worn in years (I know, I have a clothing overload problem!) which is really cool, but then things I have been wearing all along seem to fit differently. I wonder if maybe I've got extra skin in the tummy area so it "bubbles up" when I put on jeans, which feel different both when standing and sitting, or something else weird. Not sure! I look good when standing up, then sitting I become this happy buddha figure6
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@jazzadesigns - It's a HIIT workout and that's all that gym does. You rotate between treadmill, rowers, and floor exercises. I'm still really nervous, but getting excited to try it. I need someone to tell me what to do and don't want to pay for a gym AND a trainer. I have house-buying goals!
My weigh-ins are going to be Mondays.
Today's weight: 297 (this is an all-time high)
GW1: 250
This weekend was good - meal-prepped, cooked one of my favorite healthy, delicious, FILLING meals, and made good choices. Left room for some treats each day.
Goal for the week: stay on track with calories and up my movement a bit (longer walks with the pups, walk breaks around my apt, using my standing desk more, etc).
Happy Monday!3 -
July 2021 stats
39 years old
Height: 5' 7"
SW (6/9/2020): 330.0lbs
Month SW (6/30/21): 218.0lbs
Goal weight: 180lbs
Weigh-in day: Saturdays
7/3: 214.0lbs (-4.0lbs) - The woosh came!!
7/10: 214.4lbs (+0.4lbs) - I'll take it. TOM started yesterday, plus arm muscles are seriously sore from yesterday's workout!!
7/17: 220.0lbs (Possibly due to stress plus increased sweets)
7/24: Missed
7/26: 213.0lbs (One major exam down and so reduced stress and sweets intake)
7/31: lbs
Total month loss: lbs
Weekly and Monthly Goals:
* Keep logging in to MFP ✔✔ - Was not logging everything, but, I have started weighing and logging properly again
* Continue the T-25 workouts ✔✔✔ - Restarted week one of the T-25 Gamma cycle today since I missed the last 3 days of the first week last week.
* Meet or exceed my daily steps goal each day of the week ✔✔✔ - Current streak is 224 days as of today!!
* Do either a quick yoga, stretch, or walk (Reps to the Rhythm, Grow w/ Jo or Zumba) workout in addition to my regular T-25 morning workout ✔✔✔ - These were my main workouts last week to get my steps in.
* Get as much sleep as possible ✔✔✔ - I have gotten almost 8 hours the last 3 days
* Complete my 30-day Squat challenge with my sisters and a couple of female cousins ✔✔✔ - Day 26 and 135 squats done; My thighs have been burning!!
* Achieve all the July badges for the challenges that I signed up for on Garmin - In progress; Already got the July rundown badge (50 miles), almost there for the others!!
Post Mid-year Goal:
* Get to or below 210lbs (Hopefully by the end of July) - One week left; I am hopeful to smash this goal
Update 7/26/2021:
Hey everyone,
I know I have been MIA. I had too much things going on and too much stress over exams etc. I just want to say that while I was stressed over the past 3 weeks, I ate poorly (mostly increased my sweets/cookies). I am sure that this was one of the reasons my weight kept going back up and I kept gaining and losing the same 4-5lbs. I have to say that this depressed me a bit as I was trying to study for a major exam while dealing with a few smaller issues that just seemed to come to a head during the same period and was having a hard time focusing. I remember seeing a couple of posts that mentioned increasing caloric intake and @Spotteddingo (thank you) had also mentioned switching to maintenance calories till I was done with the term/exams. I decided to do that and increased my calories by 300. So far, it has worked out fine. I struggled to take my own advice and go back to the basics and keep pushing through. I eventually did, but, it was hard especially since I was feeling depressed by the numbers. Through out this whole period, I still logged my food (mostly) and completed my workouts. I weighed almost daily for the past 3 weeks and my weight kept going back and forth between 220lbs and 214lbs.
I weighed and measured today because I realized that I missed my Saturday "STATs" day (family was visiting and we just wanted to relax). I measured 2x today with clothes on, and I was down to 213.0lbs. 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾 I also took my regular measurements and I have lost about 0.5in from each thigh and I lost about 1in from my hips (thank you squats). I have also been wearing the 1x leggings I was given and some of them are a little loose at the waist if the elastic is not too tight/strong. 🦵🏾🦵🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
I just want to encourage anyone going through a similar situation to keep being consistent and yes, the scale may not budge, but, other things will. 💪🏾💪🏾
On that note, I am still not going to be too active in the group/MFP for the next 3 or so weeks as I have major practical exams over the next 3 weeks ending with another major board exam at the end of the 3 weeks. I know some people have messaged me about a lack of support (liking messages or posting stuff), so please, feel free to remove me as a friend on MFP, I will not be offended. For those that also feel offended because I do not share my diary, again, feel free to remove me. I do not complete my diary and haven't since I started this journey and if this is a problem for you, again, I will not be offended if you decide to remove me from your friends list. 🙂😁😉
I am also more likely to see a direct message to me than one posted on my wall or in the group, so feel free to send a message to me directly and I can help/encourage as I can. 😊
For those that do not care, Thank you and know that even if I do not post a comment, or like your status, you are all in my thoughts and prayers daily. I wish everyone success in their journey!!😘🥰😘🥰
I hope everyone has met and/or achieved their goals so far. Keep up the great work ladies, we can do this.
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@uyister thank you for checking in, that's a great whoosh! Good luck on your practicals!
I'm planning to up the intensity of my workouts next month - I was doing some simple Youtube kickboxing workouts back in April/May, stopped doing them in June when I started going back to the gym, and I want to start that up again. My legs have gotten incredibly muscular and I could not be more pleased! I have some opinions on most everything from the hips up, but the legs are 💯.4 -
Hello Beautiful people 😃
Am new here trying to find a partner who we can support each other on this journey I need motivation I have been on this journey for all my life am 50yrs now hope anyone can understand.
We can motivate, support, encourage, advise each other I stay in Georgia Augusta.but still we find ways to uplift ourselves throughout
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Hello all - searching for motivation and accountability friends.
New to posting.
Age: 39
Height: 5'16"
SW: 360.3 (07/26/2021)
CW: 360.3
Just trying to create small habits that will help me in the long run whether it's activity, nutrition, learning self love, self compassion, etc.
Looking forward to reading and offering input daily.5 -
@uyister always good to see your posts. Good luck on your exams but am sure luck has nothing to do with it
You are a rock star
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goal06082021 wrote: »Weigh-in day!
Age: 30
Height: 5'2"
SW: 252.8 (11/13/2020)
CW: 220.2 (6/26/2021)
7/3: 222.0
7/10: 221.6
7/17: 220.0
7/24: 218.4
7/31:
GW for July: 215
GW for 2021: 196
UGW: 144 by the end of 2022
Ayyyy! I still don't think I'll actually make my goal this month but I can damn sure get close enough for jazz. I'll be happy with any negative progress between this week and next.
I realized, I think from a thread somewhere around here, that the Strong Curves lifting program I've been following for June and July is actually a 12-week program and not 8 weeks, so I guess that's half of my exercise for August sorted - lucky I have a blank page in my journal next to the June and July spreads, so I can just keep that going all in one place! The spreadsheet I found for SC only included the first 8 weeks for some reason. Weeks 9-12 Workout A involves push-ups, I haven't decided if I'm going to do wall/incline push-ups on a bench or something, or just swap in a chest press of some kind instead. I hate push-ups, my wrists don't like being hyperextended that way.
Among my cooking projects this weekend is going to be homemade marshmallows. Not like, fake sugar-free healthy marshmallows or whatever. Just, marshmallows. The theme for the Reddit 52 Weeks of Cooking challenge for this week is Camping, and the best thing I can come up with is s'mores. I'll need to run back out to the grocery for some unflavored gelatin but it doesn't seem that hard. The tricky bit is slowly streaming molten sugar into a stand mixer while it's running, so it's just dangerous enough to be intriguing.
My sister made homemade marshmallows for our wedding favors (along with her incredible caramel corn). The marshmallows were unbelievable! I can never go back to Jet-Puffed store-bought again. She made a batch of vanilla and a batch of strawberry. OMG my mouth is watering just thinking of them! Good luck!2 -
I usually weigh in on Fridays, but I'm currently house and dog-sitting for a friend in Venice Beach for two glorious weeks and I missed last week's check-in. Oh how I have missed California SO MUCH! I would move back her in a hot second. Anyway, I am weighing myself with her scale but it's showing a few pounds higher. It could be period weight, or I could be a few lbs higher.
Height: 5'11"
Age: 50
Highest weight: 226.6 (May 2021)
Current weight: 223.8 (June 30, 2021)
7/2: 223.6
7/9: 225.6
7/16: 221.4
7/23: 223.8 (different scale)
7/30:
Goal for July: Under 220
Goals for next week:
* TRUST THE PLAN
* Bump up the exercise (not hard to do, as I'm walking the dog many times a day. She has SO MUCH ENERGY)
* Since I'm not weighing everything, I'm going to really stick to intermittent fasting (eating only from 12 - 8pm)
* Stay positive!6 -
** Salty Language Warning **
I just wanted to share a mini victory! I went Stand-Up Paddleboarding for the first time today! I have wanted to do it for YEARS but have been afraid of failing. I'm not used to trying new things at this weight (50lbs overweight), and I was scared I wouldn't be able to stand up or get back on the board if I fell. I don't have the athletic confidence I used to. Add to that, I deal with side effects from my past spine surgeries and have balance issues because my leg and foot have permanent numbness. So I had talked myself out of even trying it but then I snapped out of it. Who even cares if I fail? If I fall? If I look awkward? If it's too hard? None of those things are reasons not to try.
Anyway...I LOVED IT. Fear really is the cockblocker of dreams, you guys.
Side note: I highly recommend taking a lesson. It went such a long way to making me feel more confident, and it was good to learn the proper technique.
(Mug is my design and is up in my Etsy shop now).
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I've always wanted to try stand up paddle boarding too!4
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@wanderinglight love the update AND the mug Have a wonderful two weeks.
Been a strange month weight wise but have had a great month otherwise. Absolutely need to walk everyday to see the weight come off( for me).
So will do final weight in for the month next Saturday and have crept up to 204 as of this morning . But in honesty I know I’ll take it off and get back on track.
Onward and forward!!!!5 -
wanderinglight wrote: »** Salty Language Warning **
I just wanted to share a mini victory! I went Stand-Up Paddleboarding for the first time today! I have wanted to do it for YEARS but have been afraid of failing. I'm not used to trying new things at this weight (50lbs overweight), and I was scared I wouldn't be able to stand up or get back on the board if I fell. I don't have the athletic confidence I used to. Add to that, I deal with side effects from my past spine surgeries and have balance issues because my leg and foot have permanent numbness. So I had talked myself out of even trying it but then I snapped out of it. Who even cares if I fail? If I fall? If I look awkward? If it's too hard? None of those things are reasons not to try.
Anyway...I LOVED IT. Fear really is the cockblocker of dreams, you guys.
Side note: I highly recommend taking a lesson. It went such a long way to making me feel more confident, and it was good to learn the proper technique.
(Mug is my design and is up in my Etsy shop now).
I LOVE this mug! And congrats on trying SUP! I've been wanting to for awhile (I have friends that live on the water and have two), but I've been worried I'm too heavy for it.4 -
Hello Community,
I am looking for a diet and fitness buddy who lives in the CSRA.If you are interested in creating a support system to help staying accountable while on this journey,Kindly please send me a massage or a friend request .The journey is lonely when you don't have anyone who understands your struggle or who's not on the journey Let's do this 🤗🤗 JOIN ME JOIN ME🙏🙏3 -
seltzer_lover wrote: »wanderinglight wrote: »** Salty Language Warning **
I just wanted to share a mini victory! I went Stand-Up Paddleboarding for the first time today! I have wanted to do it for YEARS but have been afraid of failing. I'm not used to trying new things at this weight (50lbs overweight), and I was scared I wouldn't be able to stand up or get back on the board if I fell. I don't have the athletic confidence I used to. Add to that, I deal with side effects from my past spine surgeries and have balance issues because my leg and foot have permanent numbness. So I had talked myself out of even trying it but then I snapped out of it. Who even cares if I fail? If I fall? If I look awkward? If it's too hard? None of those things are reasons not to try.
Anyway...I LOVED IT. Fear really is the cockblocker of dreams, you guys.
Side note: I highly recommend taking a lesson. It went such a long way to making me feel more confident, and it was good to learn the proper technique.
(Mug is my design and is up in my Etsy shop now).
I LOVE this mug! And congrats on trying SUP! I've been wanting to for awhile (I have friends that live on the water and have two), but I've been worried I'm too heavy for it.
I definitely recommend trying it! I was inspired to finally take the plunge after coming across an IG post by a woman named Kanoa Greene, completely at random. She leads plus size retreats and I happened to see her first post on stand up paddling. The post basically said "the outdoors is for everybody and for every body," and something about that just struck me in my soul. I've let this weight stop me from doing SO MUCH and I finally just said, ENOUGH.
Another thing that was very helpful was that I watched a bunch of YouTube videos on how to stand up / kneel down, and I practiced that move in my living room 5 or 6 times a day for a few weeks (using a broom for a paddle) so I could get comfortable with it. Once I was on the board, it was easy to just automatically do that move.
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For you SUP lovers, Google Mike Shoreman / "The Unbalanced Paddleboarder". He's a friend of mine who went from professional SUP instructor, to unable to walk due to a medical emergency, to now public speaker, author and is preparing to paddle 87 miles across the lake from US to Canada.
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sargemarcori wrote: »Age: 51
Height: 5'
SW: 266.6 (1/4/2021)
CW: 248.5 (7/1/2021)
7/4: 247.2
7/11: 244
7/18: 242
7/25: 244.7
GW for July: 240
GW for 2021: 215
UGW: 150 by January 1st, 2023
I'm surprised and pleased, as I went pretty easy on myself this week. I'm behind the eight-ball on a deadline (a date that whooshed by months ago, oops) so I've spent a lot of time planted at my desk. With luck, I'll get this thing turned in today, and then I can get my (happily still shrinking!) backside to the gym!
But NOW I'm gonna do all that stuff!
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Hi, Wednesday post
Age 47
Height 5’ 6”
SW 244 (June 1, 2021)
7/14: 231
7/21: 228.1
7/28: 225.8
Goal — under 230 by the end of the month and maintain exercise routine
I’ve been at 226 for almost a week, and it felt like a mini-plateau, and I had to tell myself to keep in track with swimming (an hour or so each day), small meals, and one small snack mid afternoon— I know 225.8 is just a fraction away from 226, logically, but I am rooting for the numerical change anyways! I teach and so it would be really nice to keep on track and lose another 5 pounds in the next three weeks (when I go back to work) so that I can hit 10% of my body weight as weight loss (24 pounds) — so new goal is 220 by Wednesday, August 18.7 -
Age:49
Height: 5'7"
Starting weight (1/3/20) 296
July weights:
7/1: 245 (period)
7/7:243
7/14:245 (working out)
7/21: 242
7/28: 241
Well, it's not the goal I had, but I'm not unhappy with it either. I've been spotting on and off the last two days so I don't know whether this is TOM or just something random connected to the whole perimenopause thing.
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Weigh In:
Age: 38
Height 5'4"
ATH: 214 (Dec '19)
SW: 203.8
CW: 197.6
July GW: 195
7/7: 198.4
7/14:198.2
7/21:197.6
7/29: 196.8
Weighing in today instead of Wed, I did not exercise as much as I should this month and I can see now it makes a difference. I have also been doing all the summer things such as bbq's with friends, picnics, and two birthday parties! I still need to work on my willpower to choose healthy options. I never keep junk foods in the house and can keep from buying it when im out, but when im with friends/family and they are all available I give in every time.6 -
Age: 38
Height 5'10"
SW Jan 2021: 271.1
SW this month: 217.0
GW this month: 210 (This is the lowest weight I have ever recorded in ~9 years of using MFP on and off)
GW for 2021: 199 (Likely to be reevaluated in a few months)
7/1: 217.0
7/8: 216.8
7/14: 211.8
7/22: 212.4
7/29: 211.8
Back down from last week's weight but not quite meeting my goal for the month. I seem to be in a bit of a stall at the moment but since I am being consistent with my good food choices and exercise I know my whoosh will come.5 -
Having dinner out tonight with a friend, so try to pre-plan my entire day to make sure I have calories available for a cocktail and a bite or two of dessert.
I also have new workout clothes coming from Athleta today, so that's a confidence boost for me - I feel so much more confident when I am wearing cute clothes than when I'm wearing ratty old sweats.4 -
I don't recall if I asked before in this group. But if anyone uses Fitbit and would like to be friends please add me. I could use more Fitbit friends. My username is JeanetteF. on there, same profile picture.
I was able to get my weight moving this week! I am not logging the loss though until this weekend. I was going to log it on Sunday, my normal day, however I realized the end of the month is Saturday. I will log it then to finish the month. I am curious to see what my measurements show for the month, I've been working hard all month. I hope it is reflected when I measure.
@KeriA Sorry to hear your results werent great. I wish you well!
@wanderinglight Congrats on your victory! I am so happy for you!
@seltzer_lover I love that you bought new workout clothes. I just bought new clothes for myself - bras and tees. I agree, it is a confidence booster!
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And now for July....
Age 59
Height 5'6.5"
SW: 278 (March 2021)
CW: 236.1 (42# GONE!)
GW for July: Below 232 = 8#
GW for 2021: get to Onederland = 7#/month
FGW: 150 (will then re-evaluate)
7/1: 239.9
7/8: 238.1 (-1.8#)
7/15: 239.4 (+1.3#)
7/22: 241.1 (+1.7#)
7/29: 236.1 (-5.0#)
Total month loss: 3.8 pounds
Total loss so far: 41.9 pounds
Weellllll...... I fell way short of my monthly goal of 8 pounds. Only gonna make about half of that by the 31st.
I went on my "A+ plan" outlined last week: going slightly below (like 50-100) calories needed for 1.5 pounds lost per week, and working to get my protein up. Seems to have solved (most of) my recent problems with late night cravings. I make a mocha protein shake every evening with vanilla protein powder, cocoa powder and decaf instant coffee plus NF milk* and ice. 1 stone, 2 birds.
*fairlife milk which has extra protein has been a big help.
Non-Scale Goals:
1.Get my sleeping pattern back to normal. I've been staying up way too late and then napping. Need to start going to bed at a normal time. Hopefully this will help with weight loss, from everything I've read.
2. Create enough space in my living room so I can do the yoga videos. Still have boxes to unpack from when I moved in May.
Hopefully this will put me back on track for ONEderland by the end of the year.
I do have a doctors appointment tomorrow - routine. Hopefully she will have something positive to say about my weight loss and better blood test numbers.
Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread going - It's helping me a lot!8
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