Where Does Frank Medrano Get His Protein?

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  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    I can't believe no one appreciated my "NO WHEY" comment. Fine, whatever. Continue arguing about processed meat. It's all bologna.

    More gifs, please.
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    Goodnight everyone, thanks for commenting...


    One last thing.. :)
    Enjoy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WG4x_pCxjo
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    I am vegan for ethical reasons I have found I can get a lot of protein from natural sources like avocados, beans, sprouts ect but if you still want some good protein powder try sunwarrior :)
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    I am not anti meat eaters hell my husband is one but I wish people would at least eat with more reverence something died to feed you no matter what you eat don't waste food! I know that's not the topic here but throwing that out there since there are a lot of people arguing about silly things
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    I am vegan for ethical reasons I have found I can get a lot of protein from natural sources like avocados, beans, sprouts ect but if you still want some good protein powder try sunwarrior :)

    Thanks, but I get plenty of protein, but I've heard that sunwarrior is a good source of protein...
    I'm not trying to build muscles, just regain my health...
    And being vegan for ethical reasons is a good reason to be vegan...
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    I am not anti meat eaters hell my husband is one but I wish people would at least eat with more reverence something died to feed you no matter what you eat don't waste food! I know that's not the topic here but throwing that out there since there are a lot of people arguing about silly things
    I agree...
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,661 Member
    OP, out of interest, is there anything you deem fit for us all to eat? Curious.
  • sunman00
    sunman00 Posts: 872 Member
    2 things have annoyed me this morning and it's only 8.30am! ;

    Tony Blair gobbing off about what to do about Syria after he ruined the world for the past 12 years

    and now getting suckered into reading this thread,

    it's nothing to do with whether or not we're meant to be carnivorous, it's about a relatively young person eating family size buckets of buttered popcorn as part of a 3000 calorie daily intake with what seems to be a very sedentary lifestyle;

    friend, my father died aged 51 27 years ago when they didn't know much about all this stuff, today there's no excuse,

    cholesterol + obesity = type 2 diabetes, liver cirrhosis, hypertension (increased blood pressure) and heart disease; to say nothing of the physical side, osteoarthritis & gout etc.,

    eat what you like if you must, but get it below 2,000 on a permanent basis & do some sort of exercise, any sort of exercise, the alarms are all going off at once here.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    I am vegan for ethical reasons I have found I can get a lot of protein from natural sources like avocados, beans, sprouts ect but if you still want some good protein powder try sunwarrior :)

    Thanks, but I get plenty of protein, but I've heard that sunwarrior is a good source of protein...
    I'm not trying to build muscles, just regain my health...
    And being vegan for ethical reasons is a good reason to be vegan...

    Your heart is a muscle.
  • joshdann
    joshdann Posts: 618 Member
    I am vegan for ethical reasons I have found I can get a lot of protein from natural sources like avocados, beans, sprouts ect but if you still want some good protein powder try sunwarrior :)
    Nature's circle of life, with billions of years of evolution supporting it... is unethical? Cheetahs must be real jerks, then.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    I am not anti meat eaters hell my husband is one but I wish people would at least eat with more reverence something died to feed you no matter what you eat don't waste food! I know that's not the topic here but throwing that out there since there are a lot of people arguing about silly things

    are you saying plants aren't alive?
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    I am vegan for ethical reasons I have found I can get a lot of protein from natural sources like avocados, beans, sprouts ect but if you still want some good protein powder try sunwarrior :)
    Nature's circle of life, with billions of years of evolution supporting it... is unethical? Cheetahs must be real jerks, then.

    < Resisting urge to post a Chester the Cheetah gif. This thread is in some serious need for humor though.
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    OP, out of interest, is there anything you deem fit for us all to eat? Curious.

    I'm not really sure what your'e asking?
    What do I think would be the perfect human diet for optimal health and quality of life?
    That's a good question, as far as I know, no one has studied that, and they should...

    But I don't think that would ever happen due to industry funding most of the health an nutrition studies...

    What diet I'm following is a raw vegan diet, fruit, vegetables, nuts. seeds, and a good deal of juicing.
    When you're ill, you have to become extreme to heal yourself, that's what I'm attempting...

    Just like Dave...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-IIb4nqWU
  • joshdann
    joshdann Posts: 618 Member
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  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    Night, made.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
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    TYVM

    And stealing this one for later :bigsmile:
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
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  • joshdann
    joshdann Posts: 618 Member
    one can find anecdotal evidence supporting the weight loss potential of just about everything, including bacon. Just because a person tries one method and succeeds in meeting a goal, does not mean that the method contributed to their success. In many, many, many cases it's actually the exact opposite (see: science). The human element of any such unregulated experiment categorically affects the outcome. If I want to make a bacon diet work, I can do it. It might take forever, and I might have a heart attack 5 years later because of it, but I can do it.

    I'm not saying that being vegan will give you a heart attack. I'm saying that I grow tired of the non-scientific examples constantly (like, overwhelmingly frequently) cited on MFP as "evidence" of something. Whether it's eat more to lose weight, eat less to lose weight, drink this thing at this time always, never eat this, always eat this... you name it and someone has "proven" that it's the way to go. A picture of some chick who lost a bunch of weight and is also vegan does nothing to support your point or any other. Show me a double-blind, peer-reviewed study that has actually been published by an organization with some credibility, and I'll enjoy the hell out of reading it.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    My Gran is 89 and has no health problems. She eats lots of chocolate.

    PSA: Chocolate solves all health problems!

    Am I doing this right??

    There is no scientific evidence saying that chocolate (cacao) is unhealthy, but chocolate can be made unhealthy by adding unhealthy ingredients... I've seen many scientific studies showing positive health benefits from consuming chocolate.
    In fact the oldest documented human, Jeanne Calment, consumed 2.2 pounds of chocolate a week, she died at age 122...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

    She also smoked for 90 years. Ate garlic with her fish and meat. Used olive oil. Drank Porto. Met Van Gogh (called him ugly and impolite.) She cycled until 100.

    Circumstantial evidence of no use in discussion of "what makes us healthy". But clearly none of these activities are a guaranteed sentence of an early death.

    Anyway, having read the thread - I appreciate that this conversation was more civil and informed than the usual.
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,661 Member
    OP, out of interest, is there anything you deem fit for us all to eat? Curious.

    I'm not really sure what your'e asking?
    What do I think would be the perfect human diet for optimal health and quality of life?
    That's a good question, as far as I know, no one has studied that, and they should...

    But I don't think that would ever happen due to industry funding most of the health an nutrition studies...

    What diet I'm following is a raw vegan diet, fruit, vegetables, nuts. seeds, and a good deal of juicing.
    When you're ill, you have to become extreme to heal yourself, that's what I'm attempting...

    Just like Dave...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-IIb4nqWU

    Well I don't see how much clearer I can put my question really.

    Everytime people put food down that they are eating, you find fault with it.

    Not everybody wishes to go vegan, vegan will not suit everybody. Not interested in Youtube videos, I am more concerned with how yu push your views down everybody's throat.

    Your diet does not suit me, mine will not suit you. btw I detest popcorn :)
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    OP, out of interest, is there anything you deem fit for us all to eat? Curious.

    I'm not really sure what your'e asking?
    What do I think would be the perfect human diet for optimal health and quality of life?
    That's a good question, as far as I know, no one has studied that, and they should...

    But I don't think that would ever happen due to industry funding most of the health an nutrition studies...

    What diet I'm following is a raw vegan diet, fruit, vegetables, nuts. seeds, and a good deal of juicing.
    When you're ill, you have to become extreme to heal yourself, that's what I'm attempting...

    Just like Dave...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-IIb4nqWU

    Well I don't see how much clearer I can put my question really.

    Everytime people put food down that they are eating, you find fault with it.

    Not everybody wishes to go vegan, vegan will not suit everybody. Not interested in Youtube videos, I am more concerned with how yu push your views down everybody's throat.

    Your diet does not suit me, mine will not suit you. btw I detest popcorn :)

    No one is pushing anything down your throat... Some people are interested in a healthy vegan lifestyle, and people have a right to promote the way they think is healthy... You no right to try to censor peoples viewpoints...
    So, if you don't like it, do read it, don't watch it, and don't care what you eat or don't eat...
    Do what you think is best for you... Information should never be censored...

    PS Last conversation with you Ms Closeminded... Good bye, and thank you for your comment...
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    one can find anecdotal evidence supporting the weight loss potential of just about everything, including bacon. Just because a person tries one method and succeeds in meeting a goal, does not mean that the method contributed to their success. In many, many, many cases it's actually the exact opposite (see: science). The human element of any such unregulated experiment categorically affects the outcome. If I want to make a bacon diet work, I can do it. It might take forever, and I might have a heart attack 5 years later because of it, but I can do it.

    I'm not saying that being vegan will give you a heart attack. I'm saying that I grow tired of the non-scientific examples constantly (like, overwhelmingly frequently) cited on MFP as "evidence" of something. Whether it's eat more to lose weight, eat less to lose weight, drink this thing at this time always, never eat this, always eat this... you name it and someone has "proven" that it's the way to go. A picture of some chick who lost a bunch of weight and is also vegan does nothing to support your point or any other. Show me a double-blind, peer-reviewed study that has actually been published by an organization with some credibility, and I'll enjoy the hell out of reading it.

    You're aware under our system, industry funds most scientific studies, so the study that you're crying for is not ever going to happen... And I understand you're from Texas, and maybe freedom of speech is not valued there, but I'm going to promote whatever I feel is right, and you're free to do the same... But I've had enough of closed minded bullies for one night...
    This is our last conversation cowboy... Thanks for your comments, and have a great life...
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,661 Member
    OP, out of interest, is there anything you deem fit for us all to eat? Curious.

    I'm not really sure what your'e asking?
    What do I think would be the perfect human diet for optimal health and quality of life?
    That's a good question, as far as I know, no one has studied that, and they should...

    But I don't think that would ever happen due to industry funding most of the health an nutrition studies...

    What diet I'm following is a raw vegan diet, fruit, vegetables, nuts. seeds, and a good deal of juicing.
    When you're ill, you have to become extreme to heal yourself, that's what I'm attempting...

    Just like Dave...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-IIb4nqWU

    Well I don't see how much clearer I can put my question really.

    Everytime people put food down that they are eating, you find fault with it.

    Not everybody wishes to go vegan, vegan will not suit everybody. Not interested in Youtube videos, I am more concerned with how yu push your views down everybody's throat.

    Your diet does not suit me, mine will not suit you. btw I detest popcorn :)

    No one is pushing anything down your throat... Some people are interested in a healthy vegan lifestyle, and people have a right to promote the way they think is healthy... You no right to try to censor peoples viewpoints...
    So, if you don't like it, do read it, don't watch it, and don't care what you eat or don't eat...
    Do what you think is best for you... Information should never be censored...

    PS Last conversation with you Ms Closeminded... Good bye, and thank you for your comment...

    See the bolded bit above OP? THAT is what I am on about, you assume and presume much.

    I am not vegan therefore, in your opinion, you presume I don't care what I eat. You are wrong, but I forgive yu after all you do not know me from Adam.

    You also think I am closed minded, again, you assume wrongly, my own daughter is a veggie.

    Again, I forgive you, you do not know anything about me, therefore I will just put your insinuations down to ignorance :).
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,661 Member
    oh, and you STILL did not answer my question.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    one can find anecdotal evidence supporting the weight loss potential of just about everything, including bacon. Just because a person tries one method and succeeds in meeting a goal, does not mean that the method contributed to their success. In many, many, many cases it's actually the exact opposite (see: science). The human element of any such unregulated experiment categorically affects the outcome. If I want to make a bacon diet work, I can do it. It might take forever, and I might have a heart attack 5 years later because of it, but I can do it.

    I'm not saying that being vegan will give you a heart attack. I'm saying that I grow tired of the non-scientific examples constantly (like, overwhelmingly frequently) cited on MFP as "evidence" of something. Whether it's eat more to lose weight, eat less to lose weight, drink this thing at this time always, never eat this, always eat this... you name it and someone has "proven" that it's the way to go. A picture of some chick who lost a bunch of weight and is also vegan does nothing to support your point or any other. Show me a double-blind, peer-reviewed study that has actually been published by an organization with some credibility, and I'll enjoy the hell out of reading it.

    You're aware under our system, industry funds most scientific studies, so the study that you're crying for is not ever going to happen... And I understand you're from Texas, and maybe freedom of speech is not valued there, but I'm going to promote whatever I feel is right, and you're free to do the same... But I've had enough of closed minded bullies for one night...
    This is our last conversation cowboy... Thanks for your comments, and have a great life...

    This is incorrect - industry does not fund most scientific studies. While R&D is mostly industry paid, government and public funding is a huge part of it. While overall medical funding is about 40% public, this goes well above 70% when you take out product-related research.

    Here try this --- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

    Now go see if one study shows that whey protein is bad for you.
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    one can find anecdotal evidence supporting the weight loss potential of just about everything, including bacon. Just because a person tries one method and succeeds in meeting a goal, does not mean that the method contributed to their success. In many, many, many cases it's actually the exact opposite (see: science). The human element of any such unregulated experiment categorically affects the outcome. If I want to make a bacon diet work, I can do it. It might take forever, and I might have a heart attack 5 years later because of it, but I can do it.

    I'm not saying that being vegan will give you a heart attack. I'm saying that I grow tired of the non-scientific examples constantly (like, overwhelmingly frequently) cited on MFP as "evidence" of something. Whether it's eat more to lose weight, eat less to lose weight, drink this thing at this time always, never eat this, always eat this... you name it and someone has "proven" that it's the way to go. A picture of some chick who lost a bunch of weight and is also vegan does nothing to support your point or any other. Show me a double-blind, peer-reviewed study that has actually been published by an organization with some credibility, and I'll enjoy the hell out of reading it.

    You're aware under our system, industry funds most scientific studies, so the study that you're crying for is not ever going to happen... And I understand you're from Texas, and maybe freedom of speech is not valued there, but I'm going to promote whatever I feel is right, and you're free to do the same... But I've had enough of closed minded bullies for one night...
    This is our last conversation cowboy... Thanks for your comments, and have a great life...

    This is incorrect - industry does not fund most scientific studies. While R&D is mostly industry paid, government and public funding is a huge part of it. While overall medical funding is about 40% public, this goes well above 70% when you take out product-related research.

    Here try this --- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

    Now go see if one study shows that whey protein is bad for you.

    The government is controlled totally by corporate interests...
    http://nutritionfacts.org/video/dietary-guidelines-usda-conflicts-of-interest/
  • jetlag
    jetlag Posts: 800 Member
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  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
    one can find anecdotal evidence supporting the weight loss potential of just about everything, including bacon. Just because a person tries one method and succeeds in meeting a goal, does not mean that the method contributed to their success. In many, many, many cases it's actually the exact opposite (see: science). The human element of any such unregulated experiment categorically affects the outcome. If I want to make a bacon diet work, I can do it. It might take forever, and I might have a heart attack 5 years later because of it, but I can do it.

    I'm not saying that being vegan will give you a heart attack. I'm saying that I grow tired of the non-scientific examples constantly (like, overwhelmingly frequently) cited on MFP as "evidence" of something. Whether it's eat more to lose weight, eat less to lose weight, drink this thing at this time always, never eat this, always eat this... you name it and someone has "proven" that it's the way to go. A picture of some chick who lost a bunch of weight and is also vegan does nothing to support your point or any other. Show me a double-blind, peer-reviewed study that has actually been published by an organization with some credibility, and I'll enjoy the hell out of reading it.

    You're aware under our system, industry funds most scientific studies, so the study that you're crying for is not ever going to happen... And I understand you're from Texas, and maybe freedom of speech is not valued there, but I'm going to promote whatever I feel is right, and you're free to do the same... But I've had enough of closed minded bullies for one night...
    This is our last conversation cowboy... Thanks for your comments, and have a great life...

    This is incorrect - industry does not fund most scientific studies. While R&D is mostly industry paid, government and public funding is a huge part of it. While overall medical funding is about 40% public, this goes well above 70% when you take out product-related research.

    Here try this --- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

    Now go see if one study shows that whey protein is bad for you.

    Well here you go...
    Part 1
    http://nutritionfacts.org/video/protein-intake-and-igf-1-production/

    Part 2
    http://nutritionfacts.org/video/higher-quality-may-mean-higher-risk/
  • rawfull
    rawfull Posts: 178
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