Should sugar be controlled like tobacco and alcohol
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Great! Now I suppose I should start growing sugar beets in my closet with a UV light.0
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The problem is over population, which is leading to an exponentially larger number of stupid people in the world who use zero common sense and don't take any accountability for what they do/consume. The obesity pandemic is just evolution at work. Somehow I managed to get un-obese with sugar being a readily available and uncontrolled substance.
I put down the 32 oz big gulps and started getting my nutrition and fitness on...it was pretty easy and mostly a lot of common sense changes that did it for me.
Survival of the fittest, the clean eaters will survive and the obese will fall away.
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The people who are eating so much they're immobile have serious problems with food in general. I bet some of them get that way who don't like sweet things at all.No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.
Sorry, not quite getting your point. I agree not everyone with a weight-related health problem has an issue with sugar specifically. But saying "it's not the government's business to control my choices" ignores the fact the government -- meaning the rest of us -- ends up paying for it if your poor choices make you sick.
Actually, it's an argument for taxing junk food more than anything else...0 -
Cue the Randy Weavers and Dale Gribbles...0
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No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
Spoken like a true libertarian. AND I agree!0 -
Cue the Randy Weavers and Dale Gribbles...
I believe they prefer to be called Rusty Shacklefords.0 -
So, since my banana has more sugar in it than most gummi bears do, would my banana be regulated and I could eat the gummi bears, or would they both require id?0
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We don't ban ****-***** and that's where the real danger lies.0
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No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.
So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.0 -
No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.
So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.
So obese people must all be on government assistance and are only obese because of calories from sugar.
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No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.
So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.
Tobacco isn't taxed because it kills you.0 -
The problem is over population, which is leading to an exponentially larger number of stupid people in the world who use zero common sense and don't take any accountability for what they do/consume. The obesity pandemic is just evolution at work. Somehow I managed to get un-obese with sugar being a readily available and uncontrolled substance.
I put down the 32 oz big gulps and started getting my nutrition and fitness on...it was pretty easy and mostly a lot of common sense changes that did it for me.
Survival of the fittest, the clean eaters will survive and the obese will fall away.
I don't eat "clean"...I just use common sense, eat a well rounded and balanced diet, and get my fitness on.0 -
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SUGAR INTERVENTION!!!
The whole family gathers round and tells you all the reasons your sugar-eating is ruining everyone's life! LOL0 -
No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.
Rigger
The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.
So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.
Tobacco isn't taxed because it kills you.
Sure it is! The governments wants us to be healthy, so they tax it people won't do it!
Oh....wait, they tax it because people are addicted and they can make bank?0 -
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Tobacco taxes in Canada
British Columbai which will receive $44.60 per carton in taxes with the new increase, to eventually tax cigarettes as heavily as leaders Northwest Territories and Manitoba, which both receive more than $56 per carton. Quebec and Ontario, the provinces that tax cigarettes the least, both raise less than $30 per carton in taxes. In Ontario, a pack can cost as little as $6.50.
“I appreciate that it is hard for smokers to quit,” Seely said. “But there is now a year-old B.C. smoking cessation program that provides smokers with the 1-888-QUIT line, (through) which they can receive counselling and subsidized nicotine replacement therapies.0 -
I stopped reading at "Lustig."0
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Tobacco taxes in Canada
British Columbai which will receive $44.60 per carton in taxes with the new increase, to eventually tax cigarettes as heavily as leaders Northwest Territories and Manitoba, which both receive more than $56 per carton. Quebec and Ontario, the provinces that tax cigarettes the least, both raise less than $30 per carton in taxes. In Ontario, a pack can cost as little as $6.50.
“I appreciate that it is hard for smokers to quit,” Seely said. “But there is now a year-old B.C. smoking cessation program that provides smokers with the 1-888-QUIT line, (through) which they can receive counselling and subsidized nicotine replacement therapies.
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In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women!0
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I think legitimate questions shouldn’t be made fun of. Aren’t we all here for support??
No question is a dumb question.
Less judgment, more support people.
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Sorry where was question in this post? It was a statement that sugar should be me controlled by the government and an article to attempt to support that.0 -
Some people were being mean.0
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I think legitimate questions shouldn’t be made fun of. Aren’t we all here for support??
No question is a dumb question.
Less judgment, more support people.
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You're obviously new and not familiar with Minnie's crusade against sugar.
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The problem is over population, which is leading to an exponentially larger number of stupid people in the world who use zero common sense and don't take any accountability for what they do/consume. The obesity pandemic is just evolution at work. Somehow I managed to get un-obese with sugar being a readily available and uncontrolled substance.
I put down the 32 oz big gulps and started getting my nutrition and fitness on...it was pretty easy and mostly a lot of common sense changes that did it for me.
Survival of the fittest, the clean eaters will survive and the obese will fall away.
what a shock, you don't understand evolution either.
eta: "survival of the fittest" is something that is greatly misunderstood. It means that the fittest of en entire population, not just the ones at the peak. A better way to say it is "survival of the minimally fit". I mean, look around you. Clearly not only the strongest/smartest are REPRODUCING. You just have to be able TO REPRODUCE
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Yes. It should be carefully controlled and distributed.
I volunteer for that position. All the sugar should be under my control!0 -
Some people were being mean.
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I think legitimate questions shouldn’t be made fun of. Aren’t we all here for support??
No question is a dumb question.
Less judgment, more support people.
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You're obviously new and not familiar with Minnie's crusade against sugar.
or her crusades against logic and basic science.
And no, I do not have to support bullsh*t.0
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