Should sugar be controlled like tobacco and alcohol

whiteheaddg

Great! Now I suppose I should start growing sugar beets in my closet with a UV light.

etoiles_argentees

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/sugar-issues.shtml

devil_in_a_blue_dress

The problem is over population, which is leading to an exponentially larger number of stupid people in the world who use zero common sense and don't take any accountability for what they do/consume. The obesity pandemic is just evolution at work. Somehow I managed to get un-obese with sugar being a readily available and uncontrolled substance.

I put down the 32 oz big gulps and started getting my nutrition and fitness on...it was pretty easy and mostly a lot of common sense changes that did it for me.

Survival of the fittest, the clean eaters will survive and the obese will fall away.

septembergrrl

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.

The people who are eating so much they're immobile have serious problems with food in general. I bet some of them get that way who don't like sweet things at all.

Sorry, not quite getting your point. I agree not everyone with a weight-related health problem has an issue with sugar specifically. But saying "it's not the government's business to control my choices" ignores the fact the government -- meaning the rest of us -- ends up paying for it if your poor choices make you sick.

Actually, it's an argument for taxing junk food more than anything else...

mojohowitz

Cue the Randy Weavers and Dale Gribbles...

mom2sons02

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

Spoken like a true libertarian. AND I agree!

Janice2Shakira

Cue the Randy Weavers and Dale Gribbles...

I believe they prefer to be called Rusty Shacklefords.

vim_n_vigor

So, since my banana has more sugar in it than most gummi bears do, would my banana be regulated and I could eat the gummi bears, or would they both require id?

dirty_dirty_eater

We don't ban ****-***** and that's where the real danger lies.

Minnie2361

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
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I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.

So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.

devil_in_a_blue_dress

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
'
I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.

So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.

So obese people must all be on government assistance and are only obese because of calories from sugar.

Logic.

Thomasm198

ArroganceInStep

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
'
I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.

So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.

Tobacco isn't taxed because it kills you.

cwolfman13

The problem is over population, which is leading to an exponentially larger number of stupid people in the world who use zero common sense and don't take any accountability for what they do/consume. The obesity pandemic is just evolution at work. Somehow I managed to get un-obese with sugar being a readily available and uncontrolled substance.

I put down the 32 oz big gulps and started getting my nutrition and fitness on...it was pretty easy and mostly a lot of common sense changes that did it for me.

Survival of the fittest, the clean eaters will survive and the obese will fall away.

I don't eat "clean"...I just use common sense, eat a well rounded and balanced diet, and get my fitness on.

AllonsYtotheTardis

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paygep

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

SUGAR INTERVENTION!!!

The whole family gathers round and tells you all the reasons your sugar-eating is ruining everyone's life! LOL

devil_in_a_blue_dress

No, just no, and while we're at it, the government shouldn't be in the business of controlling peoples choices. So long as your choices don't adversely, and directly affect another individual, the government should have NO say in what you do. If you want to freebase opium, I say go nuts.

Rigger

The thing is, you don't live on some tiny little island by yourself. If you eat too much sugar, and end up immobile, odds are you;'re gonna go on medicare or Medicaid. The rest of us pay for that. If you smoke opium, fall asleep driving, and crash into a schoolbus, the rest of us could lose our kids.
'
I agree the original article is absurd, and regulating sugar isn't the answer. But I think the libertarian "my body my business" argument needs to acknowledge that there is a point where your choices affect the rest of us.

So when the obese drain medicare or Medicaid with their multiple ailments and the rest of us pay for that with higher taxes, it is on our dime, shouldn't it make sense we are taxing the products that impact health care. Look at what they have done to tobacco, taxed it and taxed it and taxed it again.

Tobacco isn't taxed because it kills you.

Sure it is! The governments wants us to be healthy, so they tax it people won't do it!

Oh....wait, they tax it because people are addicted and they can make bank?

dirty_dirty_eater

Minnie2361

Tobacco taxes in Canada

British Columbai which will receive $44.60 per carton in taxes with the new increase, to eventually tax cigarettes as heavily as leaders Northwest Territories and Manitoba, which both receive more than $56 per carton. Quebec and Ontario, the provinces that tax cigarettes the least, both raise less than $30 per carton in taxes. In Ontario, a pack can cost as little as $6.50.

“I appreciate that it is hard for smokers to quit,” Seely said. “But there is now a year-old B.C. smoking cessation program that provides smokers with the 1-888-QUIT line, (through) which they can receive counselling and subsidized nicotine replacement therapies.

BeachIron

I stopped reading at "Lustig."