Do young adults in the UK not want to work?
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Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.0 -
I thought it was a fun interesting topic I hope it doesnt get locked. All age groups can fall into this category though. I've had older adults come into an interview in jeans and atrocious spelling on the application on the spelling. Now some english wasn't their first language and I wasnt hiring for the CEO of a company, but some were just downright lazy.0
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I can see this bad boy getting locked...0
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Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.0 -
Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.
I'd think if you are applying for a pretty blue collar jeans kind of job that a nice pair of slacks and a polo would be acceptable. It's always better to overdress than under dress for an interview. One could also ask the interviewer what sort of attire would be appropriate.0 -
Right, because I've never ever met a lazy older person who works the system because they don't want a job.0
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I've seen a fair few older and younger people with the lazy bone built into them just that the older ones have learnt to hide a bit better.0
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Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.
I'd think if you are applying for a pretty blue collar jeans kind of job that a nice pair of slacks and a polo would be acceptable. It's always better to overdress than under dress for an interview. One could also ask the interviewer what sort of attire would be appropriate.
I'm pretty sure that if you are interviewing for a job, you should probably ask people who work in that field what to wear. That was really my point. This thread started with a wild generalization and it just seem to be continuing with words like "never appropriate." Okay, in my field, one better show up in a well fitting suit and tie, along with polished shoes, at least if it's for an experienced position. Of course, for the kids coming right out of school, we cut them a heck of a lot of slack. We honestly want to see that they're trying to dress appropriately, but we also know that many of them just spent several years living on ramen noodles and mortgaging their future income to the hilt with student loans. It's a far cry from barely above minimum wage though, and I can't see requiring people to spend money dressing up when you're paying them barely enough to eat. There's a bit of balance there, IMHO.
I'd also say that one of the cheapest "perks" an employer can provide to their employees is cutting them a tad bit of slack when it comes to dress code.0 -
I thought it was a fun interesting topic I hope it doesnt get locked. All age groups can fall into this category though. I've had older adults come into an interview in jeans and atrocious spelling on the application on the spelling. Now some english wasn't their first language and I wasnt hiring for the CEO of a company, but some were just downright lazy.
I too have enjoyed the thread. Great conversation and don't see any reason why it should get locked up until now.
BTW, I LIVE by your list. I taught my children to dress up for any interview and I do not believe they have ever been turned down.0 -
Honestly? I think you need to rethink your approach. Whether you realize it or not, you're trying to take advantage of someone by underpaying them. In fact, your offer of "training into a better skill set" could be easily interpreted as increased responsibility for which you're likely unwilling to pay. Regardless of course of study or present circumstances, most people seem to have a fundamental grasp of market economics (ask anyone who's ever tried to buy or sell a house), and will act accordingly.I am very fortunate in that I have a business that is relatively successful in the UK
This last few weeks I have been holding interviews to fill a position..the wage is only slightly above minimum wage, but, it is a little above.
I am looking to train this person up into a better skill.
I have not been looking for a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, just someone that would seem to have reliability and some work ethic.
5 people never bothered to turn up for the interviews...3 were late... 1 had the mother phone up to make an excuse.. a few people turned up wearing jeans....2 people actually told me they had to come for the interviews or they would lose their entitlement to social security benefits...
I was hoping to try to help someone from benefits into the workplace. Is it that young adults do not want to work?0 -
Most young adults in the UK have jobs. So no, I would not say that they don't want to work. Sorry your application pool has not borne fruit for you yet.0
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Someone want to hire a Canadian gal? I've been actively searching for work since May :P0
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Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.
I'd think if you are applying for a pretty blue collar jeans kind of job that a nice pair of slacks and a polo would be acceptable. It's always better to overdress than under dress for an interview. One could also ask the interviewer what sort of attire would be appropriate.
I'm pretty sure that if you are interviewing for a job, you should probably ask people who work in that field what to wear. That was really my point. This thread started with a wild generalization and it just seem to be continuing with words like "never appropriate." Okay, in my field, one better show up in a well fitting suit and tie, along with polished shoes, at least if it's for an experienced position. Of course, for the kids coming right out of school, we cut them a heck of a lot of slack. We honestly want to see that they're trying to dress appropriately, but we also know that many of them just spent several years living on ramen noodles and mortgaging their future income to the hilt with student loans. It's a far cry from barely above minimum wage though, and I can't see requiring people to spend money dressing up when you're paying them barely enough to eat. There's a bit of balance there, IMHO.
I'd also say that one of the cheapest "perks" an employer can provide to their employees is cutting them a tad bit of slack when it comes to dress code.
curious so you have two young applicants come in both have relatively similar experiences first applicant comes in jeans and sneakers, and the second ironed slacks with a pair of outdated but polished loafers.
Does this factor into the weight of your decision at all?
For me, I might tend towards the applicant in the slacks, but that's based on dress alone.0 -
Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.
I'd think if you are applying for a pretty blue collar jeans kind of job that a nice pair of slacks and a polo would be acceptable. It's always better to overdress than under dress for an interview. One could also ask the interviewer what sort of attire would be appropriate.
I'm pretty sure that if you are interviewing for a job, you should probably ask people who work in that field what to wear. That was really my point. This thread started with a wild generalization and it just seem to be continuing with words like "never appropriate." Okay, in my field, one better show up in a well fitting suit and tie, along with polished shoes, at least if it's for an experienced position. Of course, for the kids coming right out of school, we cut them a heck of a lot of slack. We honestly want to see that they're trying to dress appropriately, but we also know that many of them just spent several years living on ramen noodles and mortgaging their future income to the hilt with student loans. It's a far cry from barely above minimum wage though, and I can't see requiring people to spend money dressing up when you're paying them barely enough to eat. There's a bit of balance there, IMHO.
I'd also say that one of the cheapest "perks" an employer can provide to their employees is cutting them a tad bit of slack when it comes to dress code.
curious so you have two young applicants come in both have relatively similar experiences first applicant comes in jeans and sneakers, and the second ironed slacks with a pair of outdated but polished loafers.
Does this factor into the weight of your decision at all?
For me, I might tend towards the applicant in the slacks, but that's based on dress alone.
For me? Honestly? Again, it would depend on the position. If it was for my line of work, then I'd be less than impressed with either one, and would be inclined to conclude that they're not taking the interview seriously. That said, as I said above, it is unwise to generalize to all jobs when speaking of interviewing. Showing up overdressed is not always a good move.0 -
I am very fortunate in that I have a business that is relatively successful in the UK
This last few weeks I have been holding interviews to fill a position..the wage is only slightly above minimum wage, but, it is a little above.
I am looking to train this person up into a better skill.
I have not been looking for a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, just someone that would seem to have reliability and some work ethic.
5 people never bothered to turn up for the interviews...3 were late... 1 had the mother phone up to make an excuse.. a few people turned up wearing jeans....2 people actually told me they had to come for the interviews or they would lose their entitlement to social security benefits...
I was hoping to try to help someone from benefits into the workplace. Is it that young adults do not want to work?
Firstly, that is a really rude and sweeping statement. Sure there are people who don't want to work, but they range from the age of entiltement to benefits through to state pension age - it is not purely a 'young person' problem.
Do you know why those 5 people didn't turn up? Personal problems, finding other work etc. It isn't always as clear cut as "they can't be bothered".
Did you ask why those 3 were late?
Did you just automatically assume that person's mother was making an excuse?
Did you wonder why those people couldn't afford to get proper interview clothes, or why they never had help in interview prepping?
Maybe the problem isn't those people, but yourself in not asking, or for outside factors not preparing them for such environments.
Plus, most unemployed 'young' people I know aren't looking for training - most of them already have qualifications from college or univerisity and want to do something in that field, something they will enjoy and will make them happy. Yes, it is easier to find work while in employment, but not a lot of people want to join a company and do something they won't enjoy in the hopes of finding something better.
LOL. way to go. you have just epitomized everything that is wrong with our generation. blame everyone and take no responsibility for your actions.
Actually, since I turned 16 I have only been 'unemployed' for three months on maternity.
I have never received benefits.
I am currently working.
I have unertaken lots of training to ensure I have widened my employment possibilities - call centre work, bar training, lifeguarding courses etc.
I have applied for over 60 jobs since graduation in June and had 2 interviews.
It's not always as clear cut as "young people can't be bothered".
THANK. YOU!!
I am so sick of people that stereotype Millennials as lazy or not wanting to work. I'm sorry, but if 16-17% of the people are under or unemployed (rate in the US last I checked), maybe it's a problem with the system, not the people, hmm?0 -
I am very fortunate in that I have a business that is relatively successful in the UK
This last few weeks I have been holding interviews to fill a position..the wage is only slightly above minimum wage, but, it is a little above.
I am looking to train this person up into a better skill.
I have not been looking for a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, just someone that would seem to have reliability and some work ethic.
5 people never bothered to turn up for the interviews...3 were late... 1 had the mother phone up to make an excuse.. a few people turned up wearing jeans....2 people actually told me they had to come for the interviews or they would lose their entitlement to social security benefits...
I was hoping to try to help someone from benefits into the workplace. Is it that young adults do not want to work?
Firstly, that is a really rude and sweeping statement. Sure there are people who don't want to work, but they range from the age of entiltement to benefits through to state pension age - it is not purely a 'young person' problem.
Do you know why those 5 people didn't turn up? Personal problems, finding other work etc. It isn't always as clear cut as "they can't be bothered".
Did you ask why those 3 were late?
Did you just automatically assume that person's mother was making an excuse?
Did you wonder why those people couldn't afford to get proper interview clothes, or why they never had help in interview prepping?
Maybe the problem isn't those people, but yourself in not asking, or for outside factors not preparing them for such environments.
Plus, most unemployed 'young' people I know aren't looking for training - most of them already have qualifications from college or univerisity and want to do something in that field, something they will enjoy and will make them happy. Yes, it is easier to find work while in employment, but not a lot of people want to join a company and do something they won't enjoy in the hopes of finding something better.
LOL. way to go. you have just epitomized everything that is wrong with our generation. blame everyone and take no responsibility for your actions.
Actually, since I turned 16 I have only been 'unemployed' for three months on maternity.
I have never received benefits.
I am currently working.
I have unertaken lots of training to ensure I have widened my employment possibilities - call centre work, bar training, lifeguarding courses etc.
I have applied for over 60 jobs since graduation in June and had 2 interviews.
It's not always as clear cut as "young people can't be bothered".
THANK. YOU!!
I am so sick of people that stereotype Millennials as lazy or not wanting to work. I'm sorry, but if 16-17% of the people are under or unemployed (rate in the US last I checked), maybe it's a problem with the system, not the people, hmm?
Look. There are certain people in every generation that complain bitterly about the younger generation coming up. It's basically a right of passage. Ignore it. People who can't treat others as individuals have problems in a variety of ways, and it is often best to just give their opinions the zero consideration that they deserve. We did the same in my generation, Gen X. Video games and skateboarding were going to end the world back then, FFS.0 -
not read all the replies but have to say i dont see it like this,
where i work we recently started a new business in parts of london, and with new staff levels at over 1000, 50% are in the age range of 18-24,
these young men and women do a lot of outdoor work, and surprisingly staff retention is very high considering they have been out in sun, rain, snow and pretty much every type of weather conditions except a hurricane
the reason i believe is simple, as a company we mainly look to internal promotions to fill more senior roles,
they know that its a job where they have serious career prospects rather than simply being stuck in low wage, labour intensive roles,
the motivation to work and succeed is based on the knowledge that it can pay off,
i have seen young guys and girls come into the workplace with attitudes, low work ethics,baseball caps, and they swagger in like they need to establish a aura of cockyness to make a statement, but once given a little motivation, confidence and an achievable goal, they turn into amazing young people who team lead 40+ members of staff with a confidence and surety that is a million miles from the person who walked in the door,
also, to say that a job advertised as barely above minimum wage, for young people, and i assume who are being sent from social security offices to an interview, then honestly you are not going to be getting stephen fry or brian cox turning up,
you need to sell it to these people that it is a worthwhile job, they can do well and achieve something, and give them something that they generally lack and which holds them back, confidence in the wider world,
basically in my own personal experience (which i will admit is limited), yes young people want to work, but i guess they want a job that is worth doing and where they see a way forward to better things,0 -
I am very fortunate in that I have a business that is relatively successful in the UK
This last few weeks I have been holding interviews to fill a position..the wage is only slightly above minimum wage, but, it is a little above.
I am looking to train this person up into a better skill.
I have not been looking for a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, just someone that would seem to have reliability and some work ethic.
5 people never bothered to turn up for the interviews...3 were late... 1 had the mother phone up to make an excuse.. a few people turned up wearing jeans....2 people actually told me they had to come for the interviews or they would lose their entitlement to social security benefits...
I was hoping to try to help someone from benefits into the workplace. Is it that young adults do not want to work?
Firstly, that is a really rude and sweeping statement. Sure there are people who don't want to work, but they range from the age of entiltement to benefits through to state pension age - it is not purely a 'young person' problem.
Do you know why those 5 people didn't turn up? Personal problems, finding other work etc. It isn't always as clear cut as "they can't be bothered".
Did you ask why those 3 were late?
Did you just automatically assume that person's mother was making an excuse?
Did you wonder why those people couldn't afford to get proper interview clothes, or why they never had help in interview prepping?
Maybe the problem isn't those people, but yourself in not asking, or for outside factors not preparing them for such environments.
Plus, most unemployed 'young' people I know aren't looking for training - most of them already have qualifications from college or univerisity and want to do something in that field, something they will enjoy and will make them happy. Yes, it is easier to find work while in employment, but not a lot of people want to join a company and do something they won't enjoy in the hopes of finding something better.
Yes the problem IS with the non attenders.
If someone has been given an interview time and they are going to be late or if they have found another job and won't be attending or if they can't attend for some reason, you seem to think the interviewer should contact them.
NO....it is a simply case of manners that these people should have contacted the interviewer to explain their lateness or non attendance.
Turning up having obviously not taken any heed of your appearance is disrespectful....not just to the potential employer but to yourself. Why would the interviewer think you would care about doing a good job if you don't care about how you appear.
Too many people think they know it all and that having gained some sort of qualification prepares them for the real world.....it doesn't.
If you don't give respect you won't get any.0 -
It so makes me wonder why a young adult would not want to get into the workplace and have a steady wage coming in?
It's because they all feel entitled like the world owes them everything.0 -
Most young adults in the UK have jobs. So no, I would not say that they don't want to work. Sorry your application pool has not borne fruit for you yet.
That, I'm afraid, is not the case. Many young adults do have jobs but to say 'most' is wishful thinking.0 -
Why would it not be acceptable to wear jeans to an interview for a slightly above minimum wage job?
Jeans is never acceptable for a job interview. Dress for the position you want is what I have always been told.
What if the position is for selling jeans? Or construction? Or working in a warehouse. Oh wait. I'm pretty sure those would pay better. Never mind.
I don't think jeans is acceptable for a job interview. I work in a professional office but work part-time jobs in restaurants, fast food, golf course, etc & I have never wore jeans to those interviews either.0 -
...Look. There are certain people in every generation that complain bitterly about the younger generation coming up. It's basically a right of passage. Ignore it. People who can't treat others as individuals have problems in a variety of ways, and it is often best to just give their opinions the zero consideration that they deserve. We did the same in my generation, Gen X. Video games and skateboarding were going to end the world back then, FFS.
Agreed. This is another bash the young people thread. It's the same old thing that happens with every generation. There are lazy bums and hard workers in every generation. People tend to look at the "good old days" with rose-colored glasses and they tend to fear change. As a high school teacher, I know that a few bad apples can really stand out and skew your perception of the whole group. Don't worry, though, another generation will come along and eventually this one will complain about them, too. :laugh:0 -
Unfortunatlly it is near impossible to work your way up for the average human. Evidence in how many "poor" people there are to those in "middle class" and "rich". When humans make a decision they weight the risk vs reward of the situation. If the job you are looking at acomplishing provides to much risk and little reward then you will choose not to take that job, if you do you are unhappy about doing it. If you spend 32hours + working and can only afford part of the security needed (food, water, airable land, shelter, entertainment, health, retirment) then the risk is already to high and you will be unhappy. I know what your thinking, it is better to work and afford food and shelter at least to stay alive... and be miserable, and build frustrations that you take out on your family, loved ones.
incorrect talking points based on no data. you can not make any inference to job mobility or working the way up by looking at statistics that only show percentage of population in each income group. that says nothing about the individuals therein and mobility. people do not stay in the same income groups...even if average income never changes or even decreases
job mobility in the US at least is very high. Google the mobility statistics. looking at at statistics for income as data without a time element is meaningless. the majority of people defined as poor are no longer in that classification 8 years later. and alarge part of the top 10% moves to the median 8 years later. the middle class is even more fluid
So the 99% movment and the wide disparity gap between rich and poor is the data. The fact that most of the world is poor, if you just take the USA most of the population is considered poor. They talk about how the middle class has been declining because of this recession. Middle class is just another way of saying these people make enough money to provide there securities in life and buy crap that is not needed to fuel the economy.
Poor don't really add to the economy because they do not have money to buy useless crap, they are to busy spending it on trying to have a place to sleep. Its not enough so they take advantage of food stamp programs to feed themselves and still cannot afford health care. Talk to someone in these conditions they are not happy to live this way they are broken and given up on the idea of acheiving anything better.
The system is set up this way, people will work to survive screw there happiness we are indoctrinated into the whole "Well work harder, strive to be better its your fault your unhappy, The american dream" The ideal conditions to achieve this has already come and gone. Buisness is all about trying to limit there employee wages, benefits, taxes to increase profit for there company and themselves. It works against the interest of the people struggling to get out of being poor. (Great depression is an example of this being unbalanced)
Not everyone has the fortitude to push through and strive to reach there dreams. Especially when so much obstacles are stacked against them. "You are fat, so resolve the problem! exercise, diet" people know the problem but they don't all do it. Its simliar in how poor are. Its easier to just take advantage of the benefits and food stamps. Then to work a min wage job that doesn't pay the bills. Few jobs will give you the income to rise above with high school diploma.
So you go to college (which is a buisness) get a degree and are weighted down with huge tuition debt to add to a house, car, other bills for your needs. Soon you have to many people with degrees seeking the same jobs that pay good. If you can aquire the job it works out, but a lot are finding those jobs are not available already filled. In time i'm willing to bet those jobs will start paying less, as there are more stock of workers in the market competing for it. Years down the road you find many people who stuggle to pay there bills even with social security and retirments because of lack of or inability to save a nest egg over the years. That is just the way it is projecting for finance/work force. Can you find a way to get through all of this? Yes, but it is hard and complicated and not everyone can have there fair share, there cake on the current system. Rich rely on the poor to keep them rich, that is the truth today.
I ask everyone to reflect on how they grew up and how it shaped your way of thinking. Here is an example. Now if you were a child growing up in a family were your parents work a min wage job (poor) you see the hardship your parents go through. They will usualy be tired, complaining, frustrated, scared of projected future of paying bills, generally unhappy. Maybe you have a father who goes drinking to alievate his unhappiness after work, or tunes out everything watching television. Doesn't spend time with the wife or children. These are due to work, trying to bring entertainment in his life. He comes home your mother is constantly yelling at him, giving him reasons for why hes worthless. Due to not achieving basic securities for living to her its his fault they live poor he should be taking away all these bills and lack of securities. They don't have the love for each other anymore, maybe stuck in a partnership just to live, or have children.
A lot of people grow up in different enviroments and those cirmustances shape our lives. If you were a child in this type of situation you eventually have to make a choice on how you live your life. You would possibly see how tough life is and not want to go through what your parents go through? Some decide it is to tough and impossible, some try and feel trapped in there work situations becoming like there parents. Some might even find a way to provide these securities through it all and are praised as being succesful, while your brother who isn't feels bad about himself and seen as negative in his parents eyes, bring on the depression. So don't blame people for being lazy, or unresponsible. Blame the system of society that we grow up in.
This is why I suggest everyone youtube Jacque Fresco and learn about the Venus Project. It is a new way of how our society could be if we work together to achieve it. It will eliminate almost all the problems we are going through. thevenusproject.com
It is a resource based economy, were no one owns anything, there is no government, no police, no military, NO money which is the cause of almost all human problems.
a first year stats student could easily lay out a proof showing your inferences to be Invalid. its simply wrong math.
the disparity data is not mobility. if you can't understand this basic fact then the rest of your philosophizing is absurd. Its the equivalent of a person who can't construct an equation, attempting to theorize on quantum physics0 -
qft!progressivism. progressing backwards one generation at a time0 -
Interesting thread. I have nothing to add but am signing in just so I can follow it.0
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curious so you have two young applicants come in both have relatively similar experiences first applicant comes in jeans and sneakers, and the second ironed slacks with a pair of outdated but polished loafers.
Does this factor into the weight of your decision at all?
For me, I might tend towards the applicant in the slacks, but that's based on dress alone.
First impressions do count, but the interview is the opportunity to corroborate the application. Personally I'd base an outcome on how they answer the questions, and what they offer as evidence to back up the claims on the application.
As above, context is important, but it's not the be-all and end-all.0 -
incorrect talking points based on no data. you can not make any inference to job mobility or working the way up by looking at statistics that only show percentage of population in each income group. that says nothing about the individuals therein and mobility. people do not stay in the same income groups...even if average income never changes or even decreases
job mobility in the US at least is very high. Google the mobility statistics. looking at at statistics for income as data without a time element is meaningless. the majority of people defined as poor are no longer in that classification 8 years later. and alarge part of the top 10% moves to the median 8 years later. the middle class is even more fluid
am interested - which stats are you referring to? did they compare job mobility with population mobility in/across/out of a given geographic region (what assumptions are being made about the stability of the population & how has it been defined)?0 -
Honestly? I think you need to rethink your approach. Whether you realize it or not, you're trying to take advantage of someone by underpaying them. In fact, your offer of "training into a better skill set" could be easily interpreted as increased responsibility for which you're likely unwilling to pay. Regardless of course of study or present circumstances, most people seem to have a fundamental grasp of market economics (ask anyone who's ever tried to buy or sell a house), and will act accordingly.I am very fortunate in that I have a business that is relatively successful in the UK
This last few weeks I have been holding interviews to fill a position..the wage is only slightly above minimum wage, but, it is a little above.
I am looking to train this person up into a better skill.
I have not been looking for a rocket scientist or brain surgeon, just someone that would seem to have reliability and some work ethic.
5 people never bothered to turn up for the interviews...3 were late... 1 had the mother phone up to make an excuse.. a few people turned up wearing jeans....2 people actually told me they had to come for the interviews or they would lose their entitlement to social security benefits...
I was hoping to try to help someone from benefits into the workplace. Is it that young adults do not want to work?
The OP isn't "underpaying" but paying above the national minimum wage. Exactly what would you expect for a completely unqualified candidate??0 -
My brother is one of these people.
He deliberately sabotages his job interviews so he won't get hired. He'll dress chavvy, talk like he's about to fall asleep and generally look uninterested.
He doesn't want to work. He wants benefits and he wants to play GTA V.
Which is exactly what he does :noway:0 -
There's a lot of bitterness towards the younger generation in this thread...
There are lazy people of all age groups, not just the young. There are also lots of driven, successful young people in the UK.
Personally, I have worked since leaving university (I'm 32 now), have I always wanted to work? hell no! Have I always worked? apart from taking a year out to travel, yes I have.
To tar a generation with the same brush is a tad silly...0
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