Dear Men:

saschka7

This is really stupid.

Just saying.

THIS is WHY this is really stupid:

You post a vague,broad brush attack on men with no background info and then have the gall to get pissy over the reaction it deserved?

Toblave

I agree, people have an obligation to behave in a polite and respectful manner when interacting with another person; especially one that he or she is unfamiliar with and is unsure how he or she will perceive him.

FIFY. It isn't okay for anyone to physically intimidate anyone else.

True but I was speaking within the context of the original post.

ETA: I believe this is amplified when interacting with woman though.

fitfreakymom

Bacon

beer

fitfreakymom

The op is obviously having a bad day so I will post something to brighten her spirits

maggie16sweetxoxo

Women are so catty! My God, stick up for a sister. Girl power.

anemoneprose

I thought this would be an interesting place to extend that parental teaching, in case there was a guy or two out there that may not know to keep his distance from a lady.

hmm, yeah i don't know about this.

nvm

Trueray

Well OP thanks for putting me and the other men in that bubble. It really explains my personality really well. Thank you! /S

Slrajr

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

saschka7

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

MyPureSteez

You're a Bitc....(no be nice)

cupcakes_and_cardio

Not all men are like this, I don't think it was very appropriate to post on here.

PikaKnight

Now i understand how groupthink and mob mentality begins. Jeesh.

Yes, most men I deal with are just lovely. Yes, many women out there are horrible creatures.

I honestly thought my post was a little funny and I thought a few men may even respond with, "yeah, not cool to get up in a woman's space"...or something like that.

I do enjoy the gifs and notoriety, so thank you for that.

Just for background's sake: I don't work in customer service per se. I work in accounting and a younger man physically imitated an older female employee of mine yesterday and I found it upsetting. I wanted to tell him that I thought his mother did a poor job of raising him. I thought of my own sons and thought of how upsetting it would be if they grew up to behave that way.

I thought this would be an interesting place to extend that parental teaching, in case there was a guy or two out there that may not know to keep his distance from a lady.

I was right about it being interesting.

Thank you all for your responses. I like how the popular opinions are shared over and over and over and over and over.....with gifs! Love you mean it.

Sincerely,
Extremely Sexist Me

P.S. In case I wasn't clear. It is STILL REALLY UNCOOL for a man to get up in a woman's face. If you think that is wrong, maybe you actually needed to read my very unpopular/popular (however you want to look at it) post. You're welcome.

edited for spelling

So it is okay for a woman to get up in another woman's or man's face - because I've seen that more often than the reverse. Also, maybe these are things you should've said to his face or/and your employer instead of making a sweeping gender finger shaking I'm your mother and you should act right post.

PikaKnight

Don't worry, OP. there are plenty of permanent victims on MFP. You will eventually find friends with whom you can share a good cry.

anemoneprose

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

PikaKnight

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

So...this post is wrong and you go all out on it...but your response to the OP was one of "tolerance" and trying to be understanding?

Seems legit....I guess....no hypocrisy at all.

Derpes

anemoneprose

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

So...this post is wrong and you go all out on it...but your response to the OP was one of "tolerance" and trying to be understanding?

Seems legit....I guess....no hypocrisy at all.

i think you might be thinking about someone else's post re trying to be understanding (not that i'm against that). i say, treat individuals you meet as individuals - of course! - but recognize the larger frame. (ie it's kind of not even-steven as a rule, unfortunately)

re the original post - was confusing and probably misguided but i get where she's coming from about male physicality and aggression being possibly scary in a way female aggression might not be.

Contrarian

Women are so catty! My God, stick up for a sister. Girl power.

I don't see any cattiness. To what, specifically, are you referring?

saschka7

Now i understand how groupthink and mob mentality begins. Jeesh.

Yes, most men I deal with are just lovely. Yes, many women out there are horrible creatures.

I honestly thought my post was a little funny and I thought a few men may even respond with, "yeah, not cool to get up in a woman's space"...or something like that.

I do enjoy the gifs and notoriety, so thank you for that.

Just for background's sake: I don't work in customer service per se. I work in accounting and a younger man physically imitated an older female employee of mine yesterday and I found it upsetting. I wanted to tell him that I thought his mother did a poor job of raising him. I thought of my own sons and thought of how upsetting it would be if they grew up to behave that way.

While this may have been a kneejerk reaction for you, people who act badly in the first place don’t give a rat’s *kitten* about how others feel that their mothers raised them. You're asking him to care about something that is most likely not of the slightest importance to him. If his mother HAD raised him right, he wouldn't have been acting like this in the first place!

Thank you all for your responses. I like how the popular opinions are shared over and over and over and over and over.....with gifs! Love you mean it.

What you are clearly not getting from the overwhelming similar responses is that it is not about “what is popular”: it is about what is right and what is wrong. Tarring all men with the same brush on a website that the original perpetrator most likely doesn't even belong to is ludicrous and wrong.

[insert shrug] This will probably go nowhere: I think your armor of sarcasm and flippancy is too thick to allow anything through.

BeachIron

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

anemoneprose

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

Slrajr

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

I wish I had taken Philosophy in university.

BeachIron

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

The point is that not everything needs to be deconstructed ad nauseam via a feminist or Marxist approach. There are other viewpoints.

anemoneprose

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

The point is that not everything needs to be deconstructed ad nauseam via a feminist or Marxist approach. There are other viewpoints.

what you dismiss as vapid postmodern deconstruction, i call simple description of reality, counted in #s (of eg laws, senate seats, rates of mortality & morbidity, etc).

PikaKnight

toaster6

this is coming off as a bit sexist.

You mean implying that women are not guilty of this same sort of behavior and worse?

I worked in retail for a year and a half and trust me, for the most part women act MUCH worse than men when things don't go their way.

THIS. I've been a manager for Circuit City and Toys R Us and have had many challenging confrontations from female customers. Men too, but since more females tend to hold the money in the family, that was my experience from several years in retail.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I worked at ULTA for a year and a half. them womens love their coupons. unfortunately they NEVER read the fine print. at least men know when they can and can't use a discount.

Oh no they don't. Nobody seems to know how to use coupons. And apparently, expiration dates on the coupon are only visible to the cashier you keep trying to push it off on. Read people, READ!

BeachIron

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

The point is that not everything needs to be deconstructed ad nauseam via a feminist or Marxist approach. There are other viewpoints.

what you dismiss as vapid postmodern deconstruction, i call simple description of reality, counted in #s (of eg laws, senate seats, rates of mortality & morbidity, etc).

Thank you. "Vapid" is the right word, and to which I would add "boorish." If you ask others to consider your viewpoint, then you should at least be willing to also consider other viewpoints. I find it telling that a viewpoint such as "don't attack all men for one man's actions" is so controversial in your mind. It does reveal quite a bit about your thinking, though I would argue that it hardly qualifies as that. In short, your opinion deserves no more consideration than a anti- woman or racist slur. Each is equally narrow minded and does nothing to promote a culture that treats individuals with the respect that they deserve.

anemoneprose

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

The point is that not everything needs to be deconstructed ad nauseam via a feminist or Marxist approach. There are other viewpoints.

what you dismiss as vapid postmodern deconstruction, i call simple description of reality, counted in #s (of eg laws, senate seats, rates of mortality & morbidity, etc).

Thank you. "Vapid" is the right word, and to which I would add "boorish." If you ask others to consider your viewpoint, then you should at least be willing to also consider other viewpoints. I find it telling that a viewpoint such as "don't attack all men for one man's actions" is so controversial in your mind. It does reveal quite a bit about your thinking, though I would argue that it hardly qualifies as that. In short, your opinion deserves no more consideration than a anti- woman or racist slur. Each is equally narrow minded and does nothing to promote a culture that treats individuals with the respect that they deserve.

what i find controversial (and staggeringly simple-minded) is the notion that any individual acts in a vaccuum.

and, frankly, i don't give a hoot what you, personally, think of my viewpoint.

BeachIron

Dear Women,

Please respect the personal space and humanness of men out in the world. If you are angry or frustrated about something search within yourself for the reason instead of taking it out on men. Figure out why you blame all men for the errors of a few and understand that this is unfair and sexist. I bet that you have experienced unpleasant encounters with some women but have refrained from generalizing that all women must be bad because you knew a few that were in your experience.

We, as women, need to understand that we are capable of harming men. It is not a one way street.
Just as we feel uncomfortable and threatened if an angry man were to invade our personal space, consider how uncomfortable a man may feel when we tar them all with the same brush or try to intimidate them aggressively.

Let's all learn to respect each other regardless of sex and understand that although it is unpleasant to be confronted with aggression, it is rarely personal. Learn the difference. Most men are not in the habit of hitting a women when they are angry. Lets not make assumptions. Stay calm.

oh right, because it's a level playing field everywhere. glass ceiling at work; reduced political participation at the highest levels; restricted mobility, voting and land rights; feticide of female fetuses; violence, spousal killings; sexual harassment and rape (including the institutionalized kind; in wars; even within military organizations, right here at home); massively disproportionate poverty, and access to education and health), it's sexist to suggest that might not just be down to a few bad apples here and there. please.

I love these responses. It's like sitting in a Philosophy 101 class all over again, and listening to the girl in combat boots during her daily rant while the rest of us are trying to discuss Plato's forms.

lol yeah it was a bit like that, fair enough.

(however comparing the OP to plato's forms, dunno)

The point is that not everything needs to be deconstructed ad nauseam via a feminist or Marxist approach. There are other viewpoints.

what you dismiss as vapid postmodern deconstruction, i call simple description of reality, counted in #s (of eg laws, senate seats, rates of mortality & morbidity, etc).

Thank you. "Vapid" is the right word, and to which I would add "boorish." If you ask others to consider your viewpoint, then you should at least be willing to also consider other viewpoints. I find it telling that a viewpoint such as "don't attack all men for one man's actions" is so controversial in your mind. It does reveal quite a bit about your thinking, though I would argue that it hardly qualifies as that. In short, your opinion deserves no more consideration than a anti- woman or racist slur. Each is equally narrow minded and does nothing to promote a culture that treats individuals with the respect that they deserve.

what i find controversial (and staggeringly simple-minded) is the notion that any individual acts in a vaccuum.

and, frankly, i don't give a hoot what you, personally, think of my viewpoint.

Ignorant sexists, racists, and xenophobes rarely care what other people think. Your problems are of your own making.

I like the straw man vacuum comment though. It was a nice touch to the overall rant.

salladeve

I haven't read all the responses yet, but I wanted to attempt to interject my thoughts on what the OP was trying to say with this post.

I have spent too much time with an angry, abusive and aggressive man and I have seen how he would act out in public around women in general, especially if he was angry with me for some reason. When a women has done something that he would perceive as wrong in some way, whether it be disagreeing with him or even trying to talk common sense to him, he would react with aggression. This aggression will sometimes manifest itself as getting too close, getting loud, and because he is taller and/or bigger then most women, by generally physically intimidating the woman.

I know all men are not like this, and I am (pretty) sure the OP does also. It sounds however that she has come in contact with a man like this, which has prompted her to make this post. The sad thing is, that the men whom she really is addressing these comments to, would not respond in any way except anger to what she is saying. On the other hand the men who are not like this, (most men) will be offended by her generalization.


ETA - I just saw what the op wrote just above my comment, now I really have to go back and read everything!