fasting diet works....
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Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
Wow........you get 8 hrs of sleep a night! I'm jealous!! :grumble:0 -
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Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
^^ that's what I thought.
Ok, so from now on I will eat all ice cream and still lose the weight, right?!?!
Psssh, please. I'll keep eating like I normally do, I've lost a total of 44 pounds that way, and THAT'S what works.
Just because something worked for you, doesn't mean it works for the majority OP. But I'm glad you found something you enjoy, and can keep up with. But if I don't eat, my sugars drop, and I go back to the hospital. So carry on with your IF'ing.0 -
Ohhhh this made me giggle, thank you!!!0 -
Erm, I actually am a nutritionist.0
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IF'ing is fine. So is not IF'ing. Eat in a way that allows you to hit your calorie and macro targets, allows the most enjoyable lifestyle, is easiest to adhere to, and helps the most with gym performance.
GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC!
This is the reason why MFP Rule #1 is: Don't argue with Sarah.0 -
IF'ing is fine. So is not IF'ing. Eat in a way that allows you to hit your calorie and macro targets, allows the most enjoyable lifestyle, is easiest to adhere to, and helps the most with gym performance.
GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC!
This is the reason why MFP Rule #1 is: Don't argue with Sarah.
The corollary to this is "Well, you can, but you've lost before you've begun and your attempts look petty and childish."0 -
Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
Wow........you get 8 hrs of sleep a night! I'm jealous!! :grumble:
Ideally... I would and that's about what people should get...
In reality... not even close, I dream of sleeping
I get about 5 hours, 6 on a good night. I have a 2yo that still won't stay in his bed and a 7yo that is an early riser while DH and I are night owls. 0 -
I'm always tempted to try extended fasting myself but with my history of eating disorders, I end up thinking it's probably a terrible idea.
That being said, it's all about who you are and what you want to do. I generally eat while at work, and occasionally at home. That means I have an eating "window" of a nine hour shift. Does that count?
If it does count... I've seen no significant different between this and other eating patterns I've had when it comes to the weight loss.
I also don't trust the OP as they can't write intelligible sentences.0 -
Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
Wow........you get 8 hrs of sleep a night! I'm jealous!! :grumble:
Ideally... I would and that's about what people should get...
In reality... not even close, I dream of sleeping I get about 5 hours, 6 on a good night. I have a 2yo that still won't stay in his bed and a 7yo that is an early riser while DH and I are night owls.
Actually, 8 hours is also a belief from the past. They have done studies that show many people are more productive and well rested on a shorter sleep schedule. Of course, it's all a game of averages, but anymore, 8 hours isn't the rule so much as sleeping long enough to naturally hit REM and come out of it.0 -
Erm, I actually am a nutritionist.
Let us have it then! Fasting, good or bad or neutral?0 -
Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
Wow........you get 8 hrs of sleep a night! I'm jealous!! :grumble:
Ideally... I would and that's about what people should get...
In reality... not even close, I dream of sleeping I get about 5 hours, 6 on a good night. I have a 2yo that still won't stay in his bed and a 7yo that is an early riser while DH and I are night owls.
I suggest you go to sleep earlier.
That's how I resolved my "not enough sleep" problems.0 -
Fasting = 8 hours of sleep.
Wow........you get 8 hrs of sleep a night! I'm jealous!! :grumble:
Ideally... I would and that's about what people should get...
In reality... not even close, I dream of sleeping I get about 5 hours, 6 on a good night. I have a 2yo that still won't stay in his bed and a 7yo that is an early riser while DH and I are night owls.
Actually, 8 hours is also a belief from the past. They have done studies that show many people are more productive and well rested on a shorter sleep schedule. Of course, it's all a game of averages, but anymore, 8 hours isn't the rule so much as sleeping long enough to naturally hit REM and come out of it.
I know that, hence the 'about' in my sentence. I feel great at 7 hours, more than that is just a bonus.0 -
THIS. Basically I've been eating almost this way for the past few years and done well with no health issues.Details from the start would have been nice.....
Either way, I don't understand what good fasting does for the long term benefits of health. It's not healthy to not eat. Your body needs food to fuel it and learning how to eat with balance and control is a big portion of a lifestyle change.
There's absolutely nothing unhealthy about not eating for 16 hours. Our bodies are quite capable of surviving off fat stores, which many people have. In fact, we store fat so we can use it during times of food shortage. We aren't storing it because of it's looks. :drinker:
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Ideally... I would and that's about what people should get...
In reality... not even close, I dream of sleeping I get about 5 hours, 6 on a good night. I have a 2yo that still won't stay in his bed and a 7yo that is an early riser while DH and I are night owls.
I suggest you go to sleep earlier.
That's how I resolved my "not enough sleep" problems.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Oh I know what I NEED to do, the doing is the hard part. From the time I was born I was a night owl (1 - drove my parents nuts, 2 - I wonder if there is a scientific explanation for that one... think I must research this in the future). Unfortunately, my children and job don't allow me to be. The problem now is that my schedule has me tired enough that I should be able to sleep earlier, but I often have a hard time falling asleep. Working on that through meditation and it's getting better... someday, I will get enough sleep...
But anyhow, that doesn't have much to do with this thread and is an entirely different conversation on it's own. 0 -
Erm, I actually am a nutritionist.
Let us have it then! Fasting, good or bad or neutral?
Neutral, like Sarauk said.
Ironically, the only dietitian I spoke to about it was against it, deeming it easier to eat regularly and avoid peaks and troughs.
The only things I'm against is promoting unproven effects of fasting,
and one individual using my license fee to promote his own teaser trailer, and then conveniently waiting until January to release the details on how to do the diet by selling a book. Plus promoting it to the masses, and leaving it until the second to last page to brush over who it is not appropriate for.
I think the common occurrence, and little known effects of binge eating should be taken into consideration when thinking of IFing for the masses.
For the individual, neutral. It's just another method.0 -
I guess I fast from 10pm to 8am. Does that count. 0
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I am doing IF, LeanGains protocol.
66 Days in.
I have increased my calories weekly from what I was doing before.
My weight at start of IF was ~182
Weight on 10/6 (2 months in for me) - ~175 lbs.
I like it a lot.
I finally feel like I am starting to burn the fat on my lower abs/lower back.0 -
Philosophies will differ from nutritionist to nutritionist. Better to consult registered dietician (nutritionists can get certified online if they want whereas an RD goes through college majors in it and gets a license) on matters of fasting. You don't have to agree with it, but you can find PEER REVIEWED clinical studies that support that short term fasting is fine to do.Ok, so it works for them, and that is great. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with fasting in any form. From what I have been taught from my nutritionsit these years working with her it's never a good idea to fast. Eating small meals throughout the day to hit a calorie goal without fasting, in my opinion, is a much better idea than fasting.
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You don't have to agree with it, but you can find PEER REVIEWED clinical studies that support that short term fasting is fine to do.
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To the 'nutritionist' on this thread (note: not a dietitian then....)
I see from your profile that you're in Lincoln.
So for your info, this is what the NHS says about the currently available research on 5:2 / IF....
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-the-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx
It probably really is time to update your CPD.
She isn't a nutritionist. She's worked with a nutritionist. This qualifies her to tell all you people, who have managed to be more successful than losing 2 of 32 pounds since joining in January of 2013, that they're doing everything wrong.
Oh cool!!! That means because I work with dietitians that trumps it? Fabulous!! :drinker:
so if I work with Brain surgeons then I can perform brain surgery...????0 -
so if I work with Brain surgeons then I can perform brain surgery...????
Me first, Me first, Me first, Me first, :laugh: :laugh: :explode:0 -
IF'ing is fine. So is not IF'ing. Eat in a way that allows you to hit your calorie and macro targets, allows the most enjoyable lifestyle, is easiest to adhere to, and helps the most with gym performance.
Sara ruins everything with her perfect body and logic pfft she must be a witch...;p0 -
To the 'nutritionist' on this thread (note: not a dietitian then....)
I see from your profile that you're in Lincoln.
So for your info, this is what the NHS says about the currently available research on 5:2 / IF....
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-the-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx
It probably really is time to update your CPD.
She isn't a nutritionist. She's worked with a nutritionist. This qualifies her to tell all you people, who have managed to be more successful than losing 2 of 32 pounds since joining in January of 2013, that they're doing everything wrong.
Oh cool!!! That means because I work with dietitians that trumps it? Fabulous!! :drinker:
so if I work with Brain surgeons then I can perform brain surgery...????
NO! It only qualifies you too tell the Neurosurgeons how to operate dont be stupid! ;p0 -
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There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Horizon called Eat Fast Live Longer 2012 The presenter tried various fasting diets and was monitored on each and they found there were significant health benefits to intermittent fasting. He was not badly overweight just a bit of a paunch but he did have a higher percentage of visceral fat than he should have. This had reduced by the end of the experiment. He ended up continuing the 2 day a week fast because the medical evidence that his health had improved was so overwhelming.
Worth a watch.
Personally I find it very difficult to maintain. Just the thought of not eating for more than about 6 hours makes me weak with hunger.0 -
I fast when I sleep, seems to work nicely.0
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this is what op means right?0 -
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This fasting diet sounds like hell to me. I am wondering what happens when you reach your goal weight and go back to eating normally? It does not sound like something that could feasibly be kept up as a lifestyle. I would rather just do TDEE. That is much easier.0
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