fasting diet works....

jonnythan

This fasting diet sounds like hell to me. I am wondering what happens when you reach your goal weight and go back to eating normally? It does not sound like something that could feasibly be kept up as a lifestyle. I would rather just do TDEE. That is much easier.

A lot of people do IF whether losing, maintaining, or bulking.

It doesn't work for everyone. It works for some people.

Sarauk2sf

This fasting diet sounds like hell to me. I am wondering what happens when you reach your goal weight and go back to eating normally? It does not sound like something that could feasibly be kept up as a lifestyle. I would rather just do TDEE. That is much easier.

Fasting can mean many things. It can mean IF, the most common of which are 5:2, ESE, and leangains style. It can also mean fasting for longer periods (which I am assuming is not being discussed here as that comes with different issues).


I do a loose version of leangains style IF as not eating breakfast *is* normal to me. I do try to have something before training if I train in the morning, but other than that, I do not want or see a benefit to eating breakfast in the morning. I am the same whether I am cutting or bulking.

IF is/can be TDEE - at the end of the day/week (depending on the IF), you end up with a deficit/surplus against TDEE.

Sarauk2sf

There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Horizon called Eat Fast Live Longer 2012 The presenter tried various fasting diets and was monitored on each and they found there were significant health benefits to intermittent fasting. He was not badly overweight just a bit of a paunch but he did have a higher percentage of visceral fat than he should have. This had reduced by the end of the experiment. He ended up continuing the 2 day a week fast because the medical evidence that his health had improved was so overwhelming.

Worth a watch.

Personally I find it very difficult to maintain. Just the thought of not eating for more than about 6 hours makes me weak with hunger.

There could be something more recent that I have missed, but as far as I am aware, there is no clear evidence of health benefits of 5:2 outside that of normal calorie restriction.

firstsip

This fasting diet sounds like hell to me. I am wondering what happens when you reach your goal weight and go back to eating normally? It does not sound like something that could feasibly be kept up as a lifestyle. I would rather just do TDEE. That is much easier.

It's not different than your TDEE. You can eat your TDEE, or TDEE-20%, or TDEE+20%, and still be doing IF.

The "fasting" is just going without eating for a period of time.

Yanicka1

There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Horizon called Eat Fast Live Longer 2012 The presenter tried various fasting diets and was monitored on each and they found there were significant health benefits to intermittent fasting. He was not badly overweight just a bit of a paunch but he did have a higher percentage of visceral fat than he should have. This had reduced by the end of the experiment. He ended up continuing the 2 day a week fast because the medical evidence that his health had improved was so overwhelming.

Worth a watch.

Personally I find it very difficult to maintain. Just the thought of not eating for more than about 6 hours makes me weak with hunger.

There could be something more recent that I have missed, but as far as I am aware, there is no clear evidence of health benefits of 5:2 outside that of normal calorie restriction.

She is referring to this documentary
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms#.UOOjXKz47XS

My problem with 5:2 is that it extrapolate the positive side effects on Dr Varady research on alternate day fasting. ADF

TheVimFuego

I practice ISMCH (Intermittent Stuffing My Cake Hole), I can recommend it.

Sarauk2sf

There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Horizon called Eat Fast Live Longer 2012 The presenter tried various fasting diets and was monitored on each and they found there were significant health benefits to intermittent fasting. He was not badly overweight just a bit of a paunch but he did have a higher percentage of visceral fat than he should have. This had reduced by the end of the experiment. He ended up continuing the 2 day a week fast because the medical evidence that his health had improved was so overwhelming.

Worth a watch.

Personally I find it very difficult to maintain. Just the thought of not eating for more than about 6 hours makes me weak with hunger.

There could be something more recent that I have missed, but as far as I am aware, there is no clear evidence of health benefits of 5:2 outside that of normal calorie restriction.

She is referring to this documentary
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms#.UOOjXKz47XS

My problem with 5:2 is that it extrapolate the positive side effects on Dr Varady research on alternate day fasting. ADF

I was referring to actual peer reviewed studies. Does this documentary cite them so that they can be reviewed?

maggie16sweetxoxo

Yes it works to lose weight; too bad I want to lose fat.

likitisplit

This fasting diet sounds like hell to me. I am wondering what happens when you reach your goal weight and go back to eating normally? It does not sound like something that could feasibly be kept up as a lifestyle. I would rather just do TDEE. That is much easier.

I have a few friends that eat one meal a day and have for years. Easier to eat a balanced meal and less overall food prep.

TheCriz76

No.

MityMax96

Yes it works to lose weight; too bad I want to lose fat.

you will burn fat doing lean gains style

TheCriz76

Now THAT'S fasting!!! lol

TheCriz76

Trust me its works... I have a all most a six pack.. I do gym almost 5 times a day go nights at the gym..

I have almost a 6 pack too...of Sam Adams...but I drank a few...

(Sorry I couldn't resist lol)

MityMax96

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

eh_its_sarah

I can't see any info on this topic.... wonder why?

MityMax96

I can't see any info on this topic.... wonder why?

what info do you need?

eh_its_sarah

I can't see any info on this topic.... wonder why?

what info do you need?

All I can see is "fasting diet works.." but no info.

likitisplit

I can't see any info on this topic.... wonder why?

what info do you need?

All I can see is "fasting diet works.." but no info.

The OP has poor communication skills. However, this thread has been a goldmine.

MityMax96

I go by lean gains.com myself. look there for good info

Nicolee_2014

Thanks for the heads up :laugh:

manderson27

They did a lot of testing on the presenter prior to him starting IF during and after and there were some very interesting results in his blood tests. it was a year ago so I can't remember specifics. I do remember thinking at the time that it was surprising the effect IF had in a relatively short space of time.

The presenter did agree that the benefits he had seen in his blood markers were unproven. But interesting results never the less. perhaps it can be put down to him losing nearly a stone rather than the way he lost it. As he says below more human studies would be needed to prove or disprove that IF was responsible.

Michael Mosley the presenter says "I stuck to this diet for 5 weeks, during which time I lost nearly a stone and my blood markers, like IGF-1, glucose and cholesterol, improved. If I can sustain that, it will greatly reduce my risk of contracting age-related diseases like cancer and diabetes.

Current medical opinion is that the benefits of fasting are unproven and until there are more human studies it's better to eat at least 2000 calories a day. If you really want to fast then you should do it in a proper clinic or under medical supervision, because there are many people, such as pregnant women or diabetics on medication, for whom it could be dangerous."

jonnythan

They did a lot of testing on the presenter prior to him starting IF during and after and there were some very interesting results in his blood tests. it was a year ago so I can't remember specifics. I do remember thinking at the time that it was surprising the effect IF had in a relatively short space of time.

The presenter did agree that the benefits he had seen in his blood markers were unproven. But interesting results never the less. perhaps it can be put down to him losing nearly a stone rather than the way he lost it. As he says below more human studies would be needed to prove or disprove that IF was responsible.

Michael Mosley the presenter says "I stuck to this diet for 5 weeks, during which time I lost nearly a stone and my blood markers, like IGF-1, glucose and cholesterol, improved. If I can sustain that, it will greatly reduce my risk of contracting age-related diseases like cancer and diabetes.

Current medical opinion is that the benefits of fasting are unproven and until there are more human studies it's better to eat at least 2000 calories a day. If you really want to fast then you should do it in a proper clinic or under medical supervision, because there are many people, such as pregnant women or diabetics on medication, for whom it could be dangerous."

These results mean nothing until you compare them with the exact same food spaced throughout the day in normal meal patterns. And then you have to do this with a large group of people.

LolBroScience

Its a weightloss diet....
I work out at the gym... ... I lost 23lbs so far....

duz this mean you gained 2 from it too?

eh_its_sarah

I go by lean gains.com myself. look there for good info

thanks

MityMax96

I go by lean gains.com myself. look there for good info

thanks

welcome

rainbow198

This entire thread...

LOL!!!!!

IronSmasher

There was a very interesting documentary on BBC Horizon called Eat Fast Live Longer 2012 The presenter tried various fasting diets and was monitored on each and they found there were significant health benefits to intermittent fasting. He was not badly overweight just a bit of a paunch but he did have a higher percentage of visceral fat than he should have. This had reduced by the end of the experiment. He ended up continuing the 2 day a week fast because the medical evidence that his health had improved was so overwhelming.

Worth a watch.

Personally I find it very difficult to maintain. Just the thought of not eating for more than about 6 hours makes me weak with hunger.

There could be something more recent that I have missed, but as far as I am aware, there is no clear evidence of health benefits of 5:2 outside that of normal calorie restriction.

No, this is exactly what I was talking about in my post.

Snow3y

Yes it works to lose weight; too bad I want to lose fat.

this.

MityMax96

:huh:

sophia9849

Thanks for the encouragement! We all need that. And your plan sounds good.