Why is this even remotely controversial?
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no one has time.
we all MAKE it.
if you can make time for soap operas or chatting on the phone with friends on logging into facebook or browsing even one forum on MFP - you have time to be the healthiest version of yourself possible.
truth.
I'm not disagreeing with this, but I know how busy my mom was with three kids of similar ages, and she made time to go for a run for an hour every day. She is practically a vegetarian and eats 95% clean and healthy.
She has NEVER looked like the woman in the photo.
Saying, "what's your excuse" is an absurd and confrontational choice of words. It implies far more than if it said, "If I can do it, so can you" or something else that is inspirational without being pushy or braggy.
Personal preference. I would find something like "if I can do it, so can you" to be trite and patronizing.
Just because it doesn't blow air up your skirt in no way makes it wrong or absurd. Just different strokes for different people
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I like how if some posters don't agree with other posters 100% then we must have excuses.
In fact, I never said anything derogatory or insulting about this woman.
What I quoted were facts from an article where this woman was interviewed and stated that a larger portion of her life has been and is dedicated to fitness than what is being thrown around on this post.
Preparing for pageants from a young age, preparing for fitness competitions, running a fitness based NFP.
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
There are no excuses. It has nothing to do with my personal goals or value as a woman or ability to exercise.
I just don't believe all the information being spouted about her and her life are 100% true.
She put a picture out there with a tagline. She posited a question on the photo. Hopefully, she was prepared for the ****storm that has ensued. If not, then she didn't think hard enough about it before doing it.
Well, then I guess everyone who posted pictures in the MFP Fitspiration thread better "watch out".
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We've identified your excuse!
This woman does not work out for a living. Her husband is disabled. She owns two (non-fitness-related) businesses. She spends about one hour working out, 5 times a week.
I don't use any excuses, bro. I am 22, unmarried, and have no children. I work out plenty hard and eat right.
However, I know people who are as busy as this woman is, and make time to put in an hour of exercise every day and eat healthy. My mother had three kids of similar ages, worked, and made time to workout every day and she ate/eats a very vegetable-centered diet (with lean meats as well). However, she did/does not look like this woman.
So I find it hard to believe that an hour of exercise per day would get this woman that body 8 months after having a kid (however it might be enough now that she's maintaining). I'd like to see her pregnancy pics for comparison, maybe she only gained about 10 pounds before she gave birth.
<~~~ proof that it does ONLY take an hour a day and yes, I am a mom of 2 who works full time and only works out 3-5 days a week for no more than an hour a day. It IS possible.
the single, never married, no kids argument that moms dont have enough time to exercise. im confused. i'll let this one be cause I dont see the logic circle closing in yet.
me or who I quoted, because I think I got lost....0 -
I can definitely seen why it's controversial. Seems braggish. I understand it's trying to be motivational but it's just annoying. Being a mom is hard enough with out pressure to look like a fitness model. Of course by no means should you use it as an excuse to be unhealthy either. If you don't want to put in the time, or regulate your eating to that degree, you shouldn't feel pressured too. Sometimes just being healthy is "good enough".
QFT.
I will never be satisfied with 'good enough'.
so you and i are probably going to have to agree to disagree from now on.
'good enough' is what I consider my starting point.
"I am so sick of everyone's lack of honor. I am so sick of everyone's willingness to settle. Why is no one prepared to die for anything? - Rob Bailey0 -
In fact, I never said anything derogatory or insulting about this woman.
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I don't buy it.
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I just don't believe all the information being spouted about her and her life to be 100% true.
So, are we to take this as you think she's lying?0 -
I like how if some posters don't agree with other posters 100% then we must have excuses.
In fact, I never said anything derogatory or insulting about this woman.
What I quoted were facts from an article where this woman was interviewed and stated that a larger portion of her life has been and is dedicated to fitness than what is being thrown around on this post.
Preparing for pageants from a young age, preparing for fitness competitions, running a fitness based NFP.
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
There are no excuses. It has nothing to do with my personal goals or value as a woman or ability to exercise.
I just don't believe all the information being spouted about her and her life are 100% true.
She put a picture out there with a tagline. She posited a question on the photo. Hopefully, she was prepared for the ****storm that has ensued. If not, then she didn't think hard enough about it before doing it.
Well, then I guess everyone who posted pictures in the MFP Fitspiration thread better "watch out".
YUP
I hope you never go in there because I would dislike you picking apart everyone....and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one.0 -
the single, never married, no kids argument that moms dont have enough time to exercise. im confused. i'll let this one be cause I dont see the logic circle closing in yet.
I'm sorry you're confused, my point was simply that I know how busy mothers can be, and claiming that 8 months after giving birth, women who don't have that woman's body are "making excuses" is ridiculous and unfair. My description of my own situation was in response to being told that I was using motherhood or business as an excuse - which I clearly am not, since I'm working out, dieting, and not a mother.0 -
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
I didn't expect "she's lying" to be one of the excuses, actually. I should have expected that. But I didn't.0 -
Interesting argument. I found this woman's body awesome and I would love to look like that. I have before and I can again.
That said women have different body shapes, so I agree with the posters that said it's one thing to promote healthy living quite another to post an image(even if that was not the intention) implying what is your excuse to not have a hot body like mine. Some people interpreted it that way, even if you and I didn't.
When I was active duty we were pretty much all fit...did we all have a body like hers? No some did,some didnt', but we were fit. So while I don't find anything wrong with her image she probably could have worded it differently. If she truly is trying to be motivational...well use motivational words. How easy would it have been to say "If I can do it so can you? No excuses." Whatever. Hope she's not trying to turn this into a business thing, cause words matter.0 -
I can definitely seen why it's controversial. Seems braggish. I understand it's trying to be motivational but it's just annoying. Being a mom is hard enough with out pressure to look like a fitness model. Of course by no means should you use it as an excuse to be unhealthy either. If you don't want to put in the time, or regulate your eating to that degree, you shouldn't feel pressured too. Sometimes just being healthy is "good enough".
QFT.
I will never be satisfied with 'good enough'.
so you and i are probably going to have to agree to disagree from now on.
'good enough' is what I consider my starting point.
Freakin' hi5 Yoovie!
To me, good enough is settling and I've done that for too long and had enough of that crap. I'm aiming for being the best I can be and not letting excuses hold me back.
Why bust our butts so hard and put in SO MUCH EFFORT just to get right inside the acceptable line and settle for ALMOST AWESOME.0 -
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Guess how many hours per week of exercise went into this:
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I know this is off topic. Love the Niners theme man! GO NINERS!0
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Guess how many hours per week of exercise went into this:
yummy hours is my answer.0 -
Girls compete with each other WOMEN empower one another. That was her point to empower other women POINT BLANK PERIOD. If you are offended by the "message" the pic "implies" ok you are entitled if that is how you feel. However the way some people are bashing this woman make you no better than what the "message implies" to you. You "can't" do it, that is fine too, but I applaud because she decided that she CAN find a way to get into or back into shape with all the things that she has going on in her life. Women can be so hateful!0
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Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
I didn't expect "she's lying" to be one of the excuses, actually. I should have expected that. But I didn't.
Excuse for what? Not bowing down to this picture and jumping on board with hating her and/or thinking she is just flipping amazing?
I've never met this woman in person or seen a week in her household.
Why would I just believe that what she says or what is said in articles about her hasn't been fluffed to reflect the point she wants to get across.
You just don't like that I don't agree, so that automatically means I must be full of excuses.
I don't agree with your opinion of this picture. Get over it.0 -
Guess how many hours per week of exercise went into this:
No uterus no opinion!0 -
Guess how many hours per week of exercise went into this:
yummy hours is my answer.
Indeed. I spend more time in McD's and Taco Bell every week than the gym.
I just realized that, and think it's hilarious.0 -
I can definitely seen why it's controversial. Seems braggish. I understand it's trying to be motivational but it's just annoying. Being a mom is hard enough with out pressure to look like a fitness model. Of course by no means should you use it as an excuse to be unhealthy either. If you don't want to put in the time, or regulate your eating to that degree, you shouldn't feel pressured too. Sometimes just being healthy is "good enough".
QFT.
I will never be satisfied with 'good enough'.
so you and i are probably going to have to agree to disagree from now on.
'good enough' is what I consider my starting point.
Sometimes I am satisfied with "good enough" and sometimes I"m not. Depends on what else is going on in my life.0 -
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
I didn't expect "she's lying" to be one of the excuses, actually. I should have expected that. But I didn't.
Why would I just believe that what she says or what is said in articles about her hasn't been fluffed to reflect the point she wants to get across.
Because you would believe it's possible.
You don't believe it's possible.
This is the difference between successful people and unsuccessful people. Successful people see this and think "yeah, I can do that!" or "yeah, I already did that."
Unsuccessful people see "she's lying" and "she's special" and "this doesn't apply to me for some reason."0 -
Guess how many hours per week of exercise went into this:
yummy hours is my answer.
Indeed. I spend more time in McD's and Taco Bell every week than the gym.
I just realized that, and think it's hilarious.
I bake way more than I should, but its ok, because moderation is my friend.
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We've identified your excuse!
This woman does not work out for a living. Her husband is disabled. She owns two (non-fitness-related) businesses. She spends about one hour working out, 5 times a week.
I don't use any excuses, bro. I am 22, unmarried, and have no children. I work out plenty hard and eat right.
However, I know people who are as busy as this woman is, and make time to put in an hour of exercise every day and eat healthy. My mother had three kids of similar ages, worked, and made time to workout every day and she ate/eats a very vegetable-centered diet (with lean meats as well). However, she did/does not look like this woman.
So I find it hard to believe that an hour of exercise per day would get this woman that body 8 months after having a kid (however it might be enough now that she's maintaining). I'd like to see her pregnancy pics for comparison, maybe she only gained about 10 pounds before she gave birth.
She was 180lbs. She did not only gain 10 pounds before she gave birth.0 -
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
I didn't expect "she's lying" to be one of the excuses, actually. I should have expected that. But I didn't.
Why would I just believe that what she says or what is said in articles about her hasn't been fluffed to reflect the point she wants to get across.
Because you would believe it's possible.
You don't believe it's possible.
This is the difference between successful people and unsuccessful people. Successful people see this and think "yeah, I can do that!" or "yeah, I already did that."
Unsuccessful people see "she's lying" and "she's special" and "this doesn't apply to me for some reason."
I've already proved that more of her life has been dedicated to fitness than was portrayed by quotes at the start of this thread.
Her disabled husband is clearly capable of watching her children or she wouldn't be able to workout even an hour a day or run her businesses and her fitness NFP.
My point is that it is totally possible. OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE LOOK AT HER. But it happened differently than is being portrayed on the internet.0 -
the single, never married, no kids argument that moms dont have enough time to exercise. im confused. i'll let this one be cause I dont see the logic circle closing in yet.
I'm sorry you're confused, my point was simply that I know how busy mothers can be, and claiming that 8 months after giving birth, women who don't have that woman's body are "making excuses" is ridiculous and unfair. My description of my own situation was in response to being told that I was using motherhood or business as an excuse - which I clearly am not, since I'm working out, dieting, and not a mother.
at some point - you are going to realize that this is not about HER BODY. it is about what we are doing with OUR BODIES. She has dropped all the excuses to make time and get the best, healthiest body she can.
For the women out there, that are NOT trying because they are letting excuses rule their lives - and may not even realize that they are indeed excuses and not legitimate reasons, she is asking why they are procrastinating getting the healthiest bodies they can possibly have - and sharing that quest with their family.
So every time you say that she is insisting that I stop drop and look like her - your argument loses credibility.
She isnt even saying moms.
She is saying "you" in general.
WHAT ARE YOU ALLOWING TO STAND IN THE WAY OF BEING THE HEALTHIEST VERSION OF YOURSELF EVER?
that's bold cause it's a caption, not cause im yelling or whatnot.0 -
I'm not offended by it at all.
That said... I'll never look as fit as she does, no matter how hard I work. First of all, I let myself get really fat. My body has some permanent cosmetic 'damage' from letting myself gain 66 pounds. Also, I'm quite a bit older than she is (42). (Maybe that's an excuse?)
Does that bother me or make me feel jealous that I can't look like a fitness model? Not at all! I'm healthy - weight, body fat% and my bloodwork are all perfect. I feel great and I think I look great. I'm the best me that I can be, and some other woman's success does not diminish that. It's not a competition. :-)
YES! Exactly what she said.0 -
I've already proved that more of her life has been dedicated to fitness than was portrayed by quotes at the start of this thread.
She achieved it by spending about an hour working out 5 times a week.
Or are you saying that's the part that's a lie?0 -
I haven't looked at all the responses in this thread because 15 pages is more than I have time for, but I think I might have another perspective. One of the messages I get from the photo is that it implies that women should have more kids. My excuse for that? It's irresponsible to be adding consumers to a planet that cannot provide for them. I refuse to do it and I resent the implied expectation that because I am a woman I should not only be reproducing but I should be buff and beautiful while doing it. But I think if I look at it from the most prevalent perspective, from what I've seen here, I would resent the implication that I am making excuses in order not to exercise, which I don't, and I will never look like her, no matter how hard I try, even without kids. I do have kids and having them changed my body forever, even if I am able to improve my weight and fitness afterward, which I did and worked hard at it. I don't like someone trying to tell me that I'm not doing it right or enough if I don't look like the woman pictured. As I said, that will never happen, no matter what I do.0
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Well obviously you are missing a few other components in your life that this ad is directed at- like a brood of kiddos and a post-pregnancy body after 8 months. You admit it took you 5 years to get where you are - then you disagree with others who are on their journey working just as hard but have not had 5 years to complete it yet."Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
unfortunately, the life of most women SHOULD include healthy eating and consistent physical activity and the fact that is usually doesnt is a sad reality we are fighting against.
I work 11 and 12 hour days all the time, plus an almost 2 hour commute, plus i lost a hundred pounds and have tons of physical setbacks that i have to work against or around, plus a booming social life and tons of personal projects. I make the effort to workout regularly because I care about my health and i care about it more than just in a 'am i there yet, can i stop now' way.
As I said in my post that you said "NO" to - under certain circumstances you can look like her 8 months post delivery. However, most people do not have those circumstances. I also work out as many days as she says she does - 6 hours a week minimum and 35 months post delivery of baby#4 I don't look like that - but that doesn't mean I am not trying or my reality is not legitimate. Get real. We are all trying to improve- as I said in my earlier post - you need the time to do this (which I make) and you need to start where she started- which I did not. So I have longer to get there. I imagine it is not hard to cut back on your social life to find time for the gym and healthy cooking. Try keeping 5 other people alive and thriving and working your hours and getting there in 1/3 of the time it took you to get to your goal...oh wait - you didn't do that. But yet you judge...0 -
I can definitely seen why it's controversial. Seems braggish. I understand it's trying to be motivational but it's just annoying. Being a mom is hard enough with out pressure to look like a fitness model. Of course by no means should you use it as an excuse to be unhealthy either. If you don't want to put in the time, or regulate your eating to that degree, you shouldn't feel pressured too. Sometimes just being healthy is "good enough".
QFT.
I will never be satisfied with 'good enough'.
so you and i are probably going to have to agree to disagree from now on.
'good enough' is what I consider my starting point.
Sometimes I am satisfied with "good enough" and sometimes I"m not. Depends on what else is going on in my life.
I meant in an all-encompassing way.
sometimes when im sweeping, im like - eh - good enough.0 -
Her husband is disabled, she runs two businesses, she works out, she does whatever. Her kids are not school age. And I'm too believe she has no help?
I don't buy it.
I didn't expect "she's lying" to be one of the excuses, actually. I should have expected that. But I didn't.
Why would I just believe that what she says or what is said in articles about her hasn't been fluffed to reflect the point she wants to get across.
Because you would believe it's possible.
You don't believe it's possible.
This is the difference between successful people and unsuccessful people. Successful people see this and think "yeah, I can do that!" or "yeah, I already did that."
Unsuccessful people see "she's lying" and "she's special" and "this doesn't apply to me for some reason."
dude i am seriously adoring you today0
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