Why is this even remotely controversial?
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Wait.....so I can stop helping around the house and she won't do anything about it?
I've been doing this all wrong.
^this
I do almost half of the housework *and* I am the primary wage-earner with a demanding full-time career. Father of four, two of which are yet to leave the house. That said, my wife kicks *kitten* and works hard to keep the family going smoothly too.
Thank God I have a penis so I don't have to deal with absolutely any obstacles whatsoever like women/mothers do.
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Nobody is offended by what she looks like. The "offense" (and I'm not really offended at all) is the idea that ALL women have the same goal.
This ^^ and, I think, the suggestion that her life is comparable to every woman with 3 kids. Income level, support network, health of the children, health of the woman, responsibilities beyond the children and home, as well as many other "excuses" can be very valid.0 -
This. Being offended because it's not your goal would be like me being offended by John Frieda Sheer Blonde hair color commercials. Maybe I should pitch a fit because I don't want to be blonde (aside from wearing a wig for Halloween).
My personal preference is a slightly higher BF%, both because I start to look Crypt Keeperish when I get too lean, and it's easier for me to maintain a little higher. I'm not bothered by her looking the way she looks or being proud of the way she looks. I'm proud of the way I look, too, and I'm happy with my level of fitness.
WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS?!?0 -
^this
I do almost half of the housework *and* I am the primary wage-earner with a demanding full-time career. Father of four, two of which are yet to leave the house. That said, my wife kicks *kitten* and works hard to keep the family going smoothly too.
Thank God I have a penis so I don't have to deal with absolutely any obstacles whatsoever like women/mothers do.
:huh:
Your straight, white, male priviledge is suffocating me.0 -
Income level isn't an excuse.
This ^^ and, I think, the suggestion that her life is comparable to every woman with 3 kids. Income level, support network, health of the children, health of the woman, responsibilities beyond the children and home, as well as many other "excuses" can be very valid.
I agree health of children, etc., can be. But I know enough women who are in the upper levels of income with healthy families who "don't have time" because they have a couple kids. BS. I think that's the point of the photo.
It really has become fashionable to be "oh so busy" these days.0 -
Nobody is offended by what she looks like. The "offense" (and I'm not really offended at all) is the idea that ALL women have the same goal.
but it doesnt say that anywhere
i dont understand where that sentiment keeps coming from 0 -
but it doesnt say that anywhere i dont understand where that sentiment keeps coming from
WHEIRD SAID IT.0 -
The caption was "What's your excuse" Not - "Everybody should look like me and if you don't you are bad and make excuses" Why put your own thoughts into her words? I would never look like that (not the age or the DNA), but so what?? Why see it as a personal injury? .I don't get people.
Um, whose thoughts should I put into it?0 -
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That was even quoted before the responses. I'm not getting the confusion here. lol0 -
Um, whose thoughts should I put into it?
Mine would be best.
"What is my excuse for not having a hot wife with beautiful kids?"0 -
Here I fixed it.
Now there is nothing to compare yourself to.
yes I ended on a preposition.
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That was even quoted before the responses. I'm not getting the confusion here. lol
I am laughing because only two people caught it and got frustrated by it. :P0 -
Income level isn't an excuse.
I agree health of children, etc., can be. But I know enough women who are in the upper levels of income with healthy families who "don't have time" because they have a couple kids. BS. I think that's the point of the photo.
It really has become fashionable to be "oh so busy" these days.
Yes, income level would not be a valid excuse for women in the upper levels of income. But it absolutely can be for others. That level of fitness takes work.0 -
Yes, income level would not be a valid excuse for women in the upper levels of income. But it absolutely can be for others. That level of fitness takes work.
See my earlier responses: Single teenage mother in college. I was in pretty darned good shape and back to pre-pregnancy weight in six months.
You don't need to spend a dime to get into that kind of shape.0 -
Um, whose thoughts should I put into it?
No one's.
You take her words at face value, if they apply to you - then apply them to yourself with your own thoughts.
but taking someone's words- adding your thoughts to them and then stating that this is the original message - is shenanigans.
because when i saw this picture, your thoughts didnt pop into my head.
because when i saw this picture, it didnt say anything about looking just like her.
that part lives in your head. so it's subjective.
you cant argue subjective points as fact
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Yes, income level would not be a valid excuse for women in the upper levels of income. But it absolutely can be for others. That level of fitness takes work.
I live off $500/wk in the middle of NYC and a 65 hour workweek.
Im fit as frak.0 -
I live off $500/wk in the middle of NYC and a 65 hour workweek.
Im fit as frak.
That's awesome. Are you saying that means no other mother of three has any excuse for not doing the same? Even if they live elsewhere or work more hours or have more expenses or make less? Because otherwise, I don't see your point.0 -
That's awesome. Are you saying that means no other mother of three has any excuse for not doing the same? Even if they live elsewhere or work more hours or have more expenses or make less? Because otherwise, I don't see your point.
It costs $0 to get in shape. ZERO. DOLLARS.0 -
No one's.
You take her words at face value, if they apply to you - then apply them to yourself with your own thoughts.
but taking someone's words- adding your thoughts to them and then stating that this is the original message - is shenanigans.
because when i saw this picture, your thoughts didnt pop into my head.
because when i saw this picture, it didnt say anything about looking just like her.
that part lives in your head. so it's subjective.
you cant argue subjective points as fact
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Because you applied your thoughts. The whole point of this post would suggest more people applied thoughts along the same line as me.0 -
It costs $0 to get in shape. ZERO. DOLLARS.
Unless you consider that time is money, and the level of fitness depicted in the pic is not something that achieved without time.0 -
So what do you think these women are doing instead? Because I had a job, full-time classes and a small child and found time to exercise.
Unless you consider that time is money, and the level of fitness depicted in the pic is not something that achieved without time.0 -
That's awesome. Are you saying that means no other mother of three has any excuse for not doing the same? Even if they live elsewhere or work more hours or have more expenses or make less? Because otherwise, I don't see your point.
My point was that it takes WORK NOT MONEY. Im not in the upper levels of income and i dont use that as an excuse to reach high levels of fitness.
I dont care about excuses. Only reasons. and yes - that is exactly what I am saying.
here - i will put it in a complete sentence again.
No human being, of sound mind and body, has any excuse why they are not able to work toward their own optimum level of personal fitness.
if you can do some kind of bodyweight strentgh exercises (like pushups and dips and squats) and shadowbox - you can be fit.
Both of those are free and can be done in a very small amount of space and require no additional equipment.
Reasons exist. Reasons are everywhere. Reasons are things like - being pregnant and on bed rest- but that is still not an excuse to eat whatever you want and give up. Injuries, chronic illnesses, children or family with special needs, clinical depression, abusive situations at home - these are REASONS. No one will judge you for having actual reasons why you cant take care of yourself physically.
But excuses... it costs too much, i dont have time, im a mom with young kids, i dont have a gym membership, my husband wont eat like me, my mother in law sabotages me, i cant wake up early, i got in a fight with my boyfriend, i binged yesterday - these are excuses. If these are the reasons you arent working toward being physically fit, then please dont come here and complain that something is impossible. 0 -
So what do you think these women are doing instead? Because I had a job, full-time classes and a small child and found time to exercise.
And I was at one time a single mom with 2 kids and 2 jobs and I exercised. But my situation is mine, and I certainly don't think it means that others that can't manage do the same are making lame excuses.0 -
Unless you consider that time is money, and the level of fitness depicted in the pic is not something that achieved without time.
It actually takes a lot less time than trying to lose weight does.0 -
Give me a situation where exercise is not an option due to financial issues. I can't think of one.
And I was at one time a single mom with 2 kids and 2 jobs and I exercised. But my situation is mine, and I certainly don't think it means that others that can't manage do the same are making lame excuses.0 -
Unless you consider that time is money, and the level of fitness depicted in the pic is not something that achieved without time.
You are determined to prove that it is impossible for you to get to your personal best level of fitness.
Okay. No problem. You are exempt.
No one will expect greatness. I promise.
if you dont want an awesome fit body - no one will make you get one. its ok.
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I don't know what's more disheartening:
Seeing all the excuses people are continuing to use to keep themselves down or the butthurt from a fitspo (which makes me wonder how they really feel about the MFP Fitspiration thread) that they've managed to project their issues on.
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Unless you consider that time is money, and the level of fitness depicted in the pic is not something that achieved without time.
The vast majority of people are not in professions where they could be working from home and charging by the hour. If they've got an extra 20 minutes in their day at home, they can exercise.0 -
It's equally disheartening. *sigh*I don't know what's more disheartening:
Seeing all the excuses people are continuing to use to keep themselves down or the butthurt from a fitspo (which makes me wonder how they really feel about the MFP Fitspiration thread) that they've managed to project their issues on.
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