CrossFit Put To The Test, Comes Out On Top: Study
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Nah, light cleaning and dog walking is where it's at.
I see what you did there....
and I SALTS (Smiled A Little Then Stopped)0 -
So you are saying HIT does not work?
The post you are replying to didn't say anything even remotely like that.
You are right. My apologies.0 -
I was wondering how long it would take until that was posted.0 -
I just tried my first CrossFit workout yesterday and really enjoyed it. I've been working through SL 5x5 for the past few months and have always been in and out of the gym anyway over the past couple of years.
I don't think its a big secret of what crossfit is trying to accomplish with the HIIT, but I don't really see the big hit to your wallet or back if you are smart about it, which the article calls out (which applies to any type of working out, and not just crossfit...)
I'm considering getting a membership to one of the clubs in town as I really enjoyed the competitive nature of the work outs to keep pushing you, and the personal training aspect (although not exactly one on one) to make sure you aren't putting yourself into a position to hurt yourself.
To me, certainly more exciting than just lifting.
Ummm....about the wallet comment...it's a pretty big difference from spending $15-$50/month on a gym membership versus $120-$250/month on a crossfit membership. At least for me, that'd be a pretty big hit wallet-wise.0 -
Personally I just want a crossfit bar set so I can load up 10lb plates and look like a badass in pictures.0
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when i see people doing crossfit stuff at my gym i get so mad......i cant really explain why i get mad...i just do
What gym do you workout at??
**Feeling the urge to tire flip**0 -
Crossfit is like the Heroin of fitness, bunch of hardcore junkies hanging out in old warehouses, pumpin' god only knows what, destroying their old selves in the endless pursuit of nirvana. ((difference being all the crossfitters I've ever met are really nice people whereas all the junkies are, hmmm, not!))0
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How come you said cross fit came out on top when the study didn't have the subjects do anything but crossfit workouts?
That was the title of the article in the Huffington post.
Well, consider the source … ?
They re-reported the original article so they are not the source. You don't believe high intensity training works?
No, I was talking about the title … See what I quoted.
Then read my earlier response. CrossFIt is good. Just not the end-all-be-all of effective exercise.0 -
when i see people doing crossfit stuff at my gym i get so mad......i cant really explain why i get mad...i just do
That's sad- because what REALLY annoys me is that people think cross fit = oly lifting and HIIT training.
it's NOT like they own it- I do all those things- And I am NOT under any circumstances a crossfitter- cross fit is just a name.
That's it.
I do all sorts of lifts- and HIIT/interval workouts- I've even done a few cross fit workouts- but I"m not a crossfitter- it's a name- with an expensive price tag- and they are sullying the name of oly lifting.
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Ummm....about the wallet comment...it's a pretty big difference from spending $15-$50/month on a gym membership versus $120-$250/month on a crossfit membership. At least for me, that'd be a pretty big hit wallet-wise.
That was my thought when I looked at some "boxes" in my area..
$115+ / month :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway: :huh:
Hells no...
I pay $33/month to my Gym and they have put in "functional training" areas.....
So if I want to go flip tires, I can.
If I want to push sleds, I can....
and most of the other CF exercises.....0 -
Sent from your iPhone ?For the record, I'm also on top right now.0
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Crossfit is like the Heroin of fitness, bunch of crazed junkies hanging out in old warehouses, pumpin' god only knows what, destroying their old selves in the endless pursuit of nirvana.
:laugh: This is a great quote. May I use this or is it copyrighted?0 -
The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The silly thing is that what most people worry about has no impact on results either way. CF developers have turned thier program into a near religion with unfounded hype. Just like all the other fitness and nutrion crazes that have come and gone. This too wil pass.
CF is nothing more than HIIT or Tabata using barbells. Which has been done in some form or fashion since 1940. Track coaches used HIIT to give their runners a "bump" after months of track work and prior to an event. Real endurance athletes have used intervals and fartleks on long runs for decades.
The problem encountered using weightlifting events to address fitness is those events work the whole muscular system, and doing endless repetitions is meaningless, except from an aerobics standpoint. It will not and cannot build endurance of strength.
And relating CF to "endurance" is rediculous. Doing an athletic activity for 8-10-12-20 hours is endurance training. A 20 minute workout is not building endurance. Regardless of how "intense" it is. It will burn fat so it does have merit in that regard. And like any other physical activity one can use it to "get in shape". The problem with CF is that people have been sold the lie that it is the end all to be all of fitness acitvities.
It is nothing more than one of many tools in the fitness toolbox and should be used accordingly along with all the other tools available to someone who wishes to get in and stay healthy and active.0 -
Permission granted!:happy:0
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I joined a crossfit 'box' about a month ago, and am leaving in a month. Nothing against the sport or the gym (coaches are good, and the workouts do get you in better shape), but it's not for me.
Many people watch the crossfit games, which is comprised of guys with strong lifting and athletic backgrounds outside of crossfit, and feel crossfit will get them there. Crossfit will get you conditioned like a champ, but won't get you squatting 300....you get the point. The frequency of lifting heavy isn't there.
Another thing I don't like is the timing. If there's a workout with 100 pull ups, I can finish the workout but it may take longer than the imposed time cap. I do strict pull ups, and 100 strict pull ups is tough. Yes, I could learn to kip and do it faster but competing against other people in a workout doesn't really motivate me to be faster. I want the benefit of doing 100 pull ups, not scaling the **** down because I'm not kipping for efficiency.
Sprints, burpees, box jumps, jump rope, rope climb, air squats, push ups, pull ups, chin ups, toes to bar, knees to elbows, sit ups, bear crawl, lunges, broad jump, headstand push ups, pistol squats, bar muscle ups, headstand walks, L sit holds. All of these things can be done for cheap or free (at parks and such), and any combination at a high intensity will get the job done.0 -
Well, thats a bunch of misleading baloney and non-science. Statements about this study are all BS, all the study shows is elevated HR and increased calorie burning after two different Crossfit routines, only, thats it and for added effect: durrr? What would you expect after exercise...? And you cant say it "comes out on top" when you compared to nothing. Crossfit is great if you dont take it to extremes...as is any other exercise program really.
I'll do an equally valid claim as your study now, to show how ridiculous it is: My lunch comes out on top! Because well...it was comprised of calories and my hunger went down and well... its what I ate...
It's just a study reproving that HIT is effective and CF is HIT. There's many studies on HIT.
Now I have to agree with you. Only 2 workouts in the study. It is just BS to counter the negative CF BS.
Huffington post, put out a negative report 2 weeks ago. This is the same BS to counter the bad.0 -
I was wondering how long it would take until that was posted.
She's not doing a legal CF pull up. Chin has to be above the bar. I don't like the swing aspect of the pull ups. I usually do strict unless it's death by pull up day.0 -
Well, thats a bunch of misleading baloney and non-science. Statements about this study are all BS, all the study shows is elevated HR and increased calorie burning after two different Crossfit routines, only, thats it and for added effect: durrr? What would you expect after exercise...? And you cant say it "comes out on top" when you compared to nothing. Crossfit is great if you dont take it to extremes...as is any other exercise program really.
I'll do an equally valid claim as your study now, to show how ridiculous it is: My lunch comes out on top! Because well...it was comprised of calories and my hunger went down and well... its what I ate...
It's just a study reproving that HIT is effective and CF is HIT. There's many studies on HIT.
Now I have to agree with you. Only 2 workouts in the study. It is just BS to counter the negative CF BS.
Huffington post, put out a negative report 2 weeks ago. This is the same BS to counter the bad.
So if you acknowledge the study was "BS" why repost it? In4stronglogic0 -
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How come you said cross fit came out on top when the study didn't have the subjects do anything but crossfit workouts?
That was the title of the article in the Huffington post.
Well, consider the source … ?
They re-reported the original article so they are not the source. You don't believe high intensity training works?
No, I was talking about the title … See what I quoted.
Then read my earlier response. CrossFIt is good. Just not the end-all-be-all of effective exercise.
The real source is American Council on Fitness and is not done to scientific standards. It's quick put together to counter negative press on crossfit. Yes Huffington publishes crap.0 -
Well, thats a bunch of misleading baloney and non-science. Statements about this study are all BS, all the study shows is elevated HR and increased calorie burning after two different Crossfit routines, only, thats it and for added effect: durrr? What would you expect after exercise...? And you cant say it "comes out on top" when you compared to nothing. Crossfit is great if you dont take it to extremes...as is any other exercise program really.
I'll do an equally valid claim as your study now, to show how ridiculous it is: My lunch comes out on top! Because well...it was comprised of calories and my hunger went down and well... its what I ate...
It's just a study reproving that HIT is effective and CF is HIT. There's many studies on HIT.
Now I have to agree with you. Only 2 workouts in the study. It is just BS to counter the negative CF BS.
Huffington post, put out a negative report 2 weeks ago. This is the same BS to counter the bad.
So if you acknowledge the study was "BS" why repost it? In4stronglogic
I posted it there first before I bumped it here and then edited my post there to this link to this thread. I did not recognize the sample was for 2 workouts.0 -
And relating CF to "endurance" is rediculous. Doing an athletic activity for 8-10-12-20 hours is endurance training. A 20 minute workout is not building endurance. Regardless of how "intense" it is. It will burn fat so it does have merit in that regard. And like any other physical activity one can use it to "get in shape". The problem with CF is that people have been sold the lie that it is the end all to be all of fitness acitvities.
"8-10-12-20 hours is endurance training..." Holy ****e what are you training for?
I do CF for Ice Hockey and it works. 60 mins of 2 min or less shifts at full speed.0 -
I haven't decided what I think about Crossfit yet (just so you know)
Huffington's earlier CF bashing post, was also kind of a repost, I think I read the original and then read HP one it was like a glitch in the matrix.
Totally agree that CF idea is based on HIIT and Strength Training
The combination of both actually has been proved (independent of crossfit) to improve endurance in any athlete's performance. Not citing studies, but I usually have a high level of BS detector when reading these things.
From what I have read on here, there are a lot of people who do CF in a structured intelligent way trying to concentrate on form even when trying to speed through things. And taking into consideration their own level of fitness not just being driven to extremes because the 'CF crazed zealot' next to them is trying to make their muscles explode and flipping the bird to their own physical well being at the same time.
The sane practioners and coaches sound great and the concept and idea would be totally awesome, if it wasn't for the fact that the creator himself is a total fruitcake who is proud that some of the disciples are pushing the line between life and death every time they do one of the totally randomised and in some cases totally ill advised WOD.
Maybe if someone comes up with CF for people who like to kick butt, but are not so keen on going so far beyond their own capabilities that they don't know if they are going to wake up stronger or not wake up at all - then we really could have something come out on top.
I had no idea about prices though... it seems astounding. But they couldn't keep that pricing structure if it wasn't as popular, and some people get financial motivation too - I paid all this damn cash, so I better do it?!
TL/WR - Study and HP is a load of crappola, CF in principle is fine, but founder's philosophy and disciples can be totally cookywhatsit, CF is the same as a load of other stuff, so price does seem riducurous but so are the prices of Iphones and everyone loves them (except me)
PS love these passionate threads for reading, learning and laughing0 -
wtf... im trying to lift weights not burn calories.. I could give a flying F what my v02 max is during it.. All theyve proved is that crossfit and bodypump can be quite similar..0
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The combination of both actually has been proved (independent of crossfit) to improve endurance in any athlete's performance.
Need to be precise with claims like that. In endurance athletes, HIIT improves performance when limited to 10-20% of the overall training program (the rest being endurance training, of course). Beyond that, it impairs performance, because CV improvement under HIIT is physiologically different than under endurance training.0 -
There's no point in "hating" on CF. It's at its peak popularity right now, three years from now half the studios will be closed as the exercise world moves on to the next big thing.
Meantime, those who enjoy should keep enjoying it! Any exercise is better than no exercise, in my book.
This.
Cross-fitters are cute in that enthusiastic puppy way. But stick around in fitness long enough and you'll see many trends come and go. It's the nature of the beast.
Anything that gets people active and enjoying being active can't be half bad. Just watch that form!0 -
If Crossfit goes away, can I still wear my shirts that state how hard I workout?0
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From someone who never worked out before her 31st birthday - THANK YOU CROSSFIT for whooping my *kitten* into shape.
Giving it your all, pushing past your comfort zone, getting stronger and fitter day by day. That's what I truely love about it. Still sorry to see so many stereotypes about crossfit..0 -
I tried it and stopped after a few sessions. I was already pretty fit when I started, so it wasn't a matter of it being too hard. My issue with it was that the only thing they cared about was speed. Zero interest in form. As long as you were more or less throwing the kettle bell around in the right general direction, or jumping up and then laying on the floor repeatedly fast enough, that's all that mattered. I'm not hating on it, just throwing my 2 cents in FWIW. I'm glad it works for so many folks, but it's not the right program for me.
Thats an interesting experience because I've found quite the opposite. They won't even let you join this affiliate unless you do the start-up / intro program to teach you all the lifts which takes 3 weeks. During the intro class you still do a WOD every day but the main focus is on form.
Once you join and do the regular WODs I still find I get a lot of instruction on form every day just trying to improve complex moves like snatches.
And the cult talk just makes me laugh. But when the zombie apocalypse comes, crossfitters will lead the pack of survivors and repopulate the earth. :bigsmile: :laugh:1 -
Anything that gets people active and enjoying being active can't be half bad. Just watch that form!There's no point in "hating" on CF. It's at its peak popularity right now, three years from now half the studios will be closed as the exercise world moves on to the next big thing.
Meantime, those who enjoy should keep enjoying it! Any exercise is better than no exercise, in my book.
Thank you. All the CF hate here is ridiculous. At least people are getting up, getting out and working out. If they are passionate about it and they found a community that works for them, then that's a great thing!0 -
If Crossfit goes away, can I still wear my shirts that state how hard I workout?
wear no shirt instead. same point- and you don't have to look like a douchcanoe with the CF shirt 0
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