Why is there SO MUCH negativity here?!

wheird

OP - pay attention to the stuff and the people that you like and ignore the rest.

Simples.

Solid advice. Only listen to things that support your (usually) common misconceptions as long as they are said nicely.

DebbieLyn63

Fat and angry, duh.

AND hungry! :bigsmile:

wheird

You're dealing with a lot of this kind of person...

I am that guy.

cmriverside

Years of programming through violent video games, movies, rock and roll music, and a diet made entirely of sugar and energy drinks.



But for real though...we could all be a little nicer to one another.

*runs off to learn all the words to Kum ba yah*

Oh, Mother, those ARE all the words.

links_slayer

In for the butthurt...oh and for future reference please use this form instead of another "you people are mean posts"

i u

jayliospecky

Exactly.

Like this guy.



Everybody else is all "Hey, stay on the road!" and "Drive with your eyes open!"

I'm like, "Hey, all. Chill out. Roads aren't for everybody. Driving with your eyes open isn't for everybody. Who needs all this negativity? YOU DRIVE WHERE YOU WANNA' DRIVE, BUDDY! WAY TO GO!!"

Nikkip130

WOW I so agree with you, and BTW I do have medical background ):smooched:

hailbloodymary

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

randomtai

I'm going to answer this question as I just witnessed this on my totally inncocent post regarding do you log your cleaning?
People ended up *****ing about hrms and that it's ridiculous to log because it is built into sedenary lifestyle. I stood by my guns and other ladies on that post stating that basically some people don't do 4 hours cleaning or painting and also I only log 30% of Mfp estimate. F******* hate Mfp now was supposed to be a place of support for me to slim down for my wedding, but thanks to these negative pains in my *kitten* I'm done. I'm only using my diary now.. Peace out

You may find married life difficult.

+1

Mother_Superior

Years of programming through violent video games, movies, rock and roll music, and a diet made entirely of sugar and energy drinks.



But for real though...we could all be a little nicer to one another.

*runs off to learn all the words to Kum ba yah*

Oh, Mother, those ARE all the words.

Well hell...my job is done. I'm gonna have a sandwich and a beer. Nothing more positive than that!

LiftAllThePizzas

Am I the only who notices that the people who start these "everyone is so negative" threads have never spent any of their own time and effort providing people with helpful or useful information?

randomtai

Am I the only who notices that the people who start these "everyone is so negative" threads have never spent any of their own time and effort providing people with helpful or useful information?

cmriverside

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

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May I ask why you are here? Just to flame-throw, or ______________________________________(fill in blank, please)

Brandonalex15

Its honestly just because some people really just dont have anything better to do ... Lol .. Like why would they waste there time just to post something negative/stupid . Just to try to be funny lol becausethere bored with nothing to do

deksgrl

Oh, look, another "people are mean" thread.

Let's see.... a calorie deficit is required to lose weight. A deficit is negative. Thereby explaining all of the negativity.

hailbloodymary

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

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May I ask why you are here? Just to flame-throw, or ______________________________________(fill in blank, please)

Haha, I'm not here to cause trouble; as mentioned in my previous post, I'm just adding my two cents.

bajoyba

It's often just a matter of perspective.
There's a lot of good information here, and there are a lot of successful people to learn from. There's also a lot of really helpful advice on the forums, but it isn't always wrapped up with a pretty bow.

All in all, MFP is just like real life. There will always be the occasional a-hole, but most people are just doing their best. You'll get out of it what you want to get out of it.

wheird

Am I the only who notices that the people who start these "everyone is so negative" threads have never spent any of their own time and effort providing people with helpful or useful information?

None of them EVER do.

cmcollins001

Define negativity.

To some, having something honestly explained to them, which differs from their own ideas, is negative.
To some, if you don't agree 100% with their assessment, it's negative.
To some, if you continue to post the same, "Why isn't this working?" posts, but don't want to hear actual useful advice, it's negative.
To some, a thigh gap, is negative.
To some, having a little fun and not taking this whole diet and exercise thing as serious as they make it out to be, is negative.
To some, Christmas, is negative. (As are all holidays, social gatherings, family gatherings, co-workers bringing in cupcakes and brownies, being invited to a restaurant to lunch, buffets, fast food in general, and life in general.)

Basically, one person's definition of the word negative doesn't exactly define the word for everyone. That's just the way it is. It all boils down to perspective.

PS:

CyberEd312

Might I suggest hanging out in the forums for lets say the next couple years, offer advice in atleast 5-10 threads a day and come back afterward and lets see if your feelings have changed any... :flowerforyou:

cmriverside

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

SOLID Second Post.


May I ask why you are here? Just to flame-throw, or ______________________________________(fill in blank, please)

Haha, I'm not here to cause trouble; as mentioned in my previous post, I'm just adding my two cents.

Well, I hope you enjoy your stay, but I would suggest spending a little time in the forums before you make wide generalizations about people.

This is by FAR the tamest forum in which I've participated. Ignorance of basic fitness and weight loss is challenged often and diligently by a lot of really smart people.

Or, people get mad and hide out and refuse to accept help.

That always works well. (Not talking about you, just these threads in general.

wheird

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

Most of the people who are considered "rude" on here are regular members that are on here everyday. I fully admit that I am snarky and rude sometimes. But it is always in response to something asinine. Us "rude" people are also the ones that spend our time reading nutrition articles and research papers, then applying them by sharing them with less informed people on the forums. We are also the ones in the gym getting stronger and fitter.

So for those that think there is so much negativity around here, have you ever helped anyone on here? Have you taken the time to run TDEE calcs for another person and answer their nutrition questions in private? No? I bet most of the rude people have.

wheird

Might I suggest hanging out in the forums for lets say the next couple years, offer advice in atleast 5-10 threads a day and come back afterward and lets see if your feelings have changed any... :flowerforyou:

*fist bump*

meeper123

Eh get use to it sadly this is the internet ignore those people. They just want attention. If you don't give it to them they will move along. The internet is full of *kitten* hats that want to put in their two cents in.

hailbloodymary

Well, I hope you enjoy your stay, but I would suggest spending a little time in the forums before you make wide generalizations about people.

This is by FAR the tamest forum in which I've participated. Ignorance of basic fitness and weight loss is challenged often and diligently by a lot of really smart people.

Or, people get mad and hide out and refuse to accept help.

That always works well. (Not talking about you, just these threads in general.

Thank you for the welcome, and I'm sorry that you feel that I was making wide generalisations about people on here; on the contrary, I was merely stating my impressions of what I have seen and witnessed and compared it with other forums that I've been involved with. Again, I'm not saying everyone here is rude and snarky, but from what I've seen so far there is more of a sense of negativity here than elsewhere. Again, this is my opinion. Regardless, I'm glad to hear that your experience with the MFP has been a positive one.

neanderthin

Eh get use to it sadly this is the internet ignore those people. They just want attention. If you don't give it to them they will move along. The internet is full of *kitten* hats that want to put in their two cents in.

Wow, that's pretty negative. Carry on.:happy:

cmriverside

Define negativity.

To some, having something honestly explained to them, which differs from their own ideas, is negative.
To some, if you don't agree 100% with their assessment, it's negative.
To some, if you continue to post the same, "Why isn't this working?" posts, but don't want to hear actual useful advice, it's negative.
To some, a thigh gap, is negative.
To some, having a little fun and not taking this whole diet and exercise thing as serious as they make it out to be, is negative.
To some, Christmas, is negative. (As are all holidays, social gatherings, family gatherings, co-workers bringing in cupcakes and brownies, being invited to a restaurant to lunch, buffets, fast food in general, and life in general.)

Basically, one person's definition of the word negative doesn't exactly define the word for everyone. That's just the way it is. It all boils down to perspective.

All is Perception, All Is Vanity

hailbloodymary

I'm new here and I've only been looking through these forums for the past week; however, I agree with SarahMakePretty to an extent. From my experience, there is more of a general "rude" undertone here than other weight-loss/health forums I have come across. Whilst I am not saying that everyone here is rude (in fact there are lots of people who are encouraging and helpful here), I feel that the snarkiness comes through much more in MFP than other forums (e.g., 3FC).

Whilst it is not helpful or right to commend someone on habits that are not necessarily healthy, such as eating below 1000 calories, there is a difference between offering constructive criticism and making flat out judgements based on a paragraph of text. For example, to call out on someone that they're an attention seeker when they're ranting that they've binged on 3 spoons of icecream is not being "honest" or "blunt" - it's rude. If they consider that to be a binge, don't demean them for it because their definition of binging is different from yours. (FYI, I don't consider that binging but I digress.)

A part of being a supportive community is not only to offer (sound) advice, but also to show empathy and tolerance. Certainly people are entitled to their own beliefs and to disagree with others, but again there's a fine line between having a reasonable discussion and dismissing someone's POV. Also, everyone here is at different stages in their weight-loss/health journey - in terms of motivation, determination, support, etc. - and it's worth being mindful of that. Anyway, that's just my two cents.

SarahMakePretty, it may be worth being involved in other forums if you find MFP to be too negative. Ignoring helps too.

Most of the people who are considered "rude" on here are regular members that are on here everyday. I fully admit that I am snarky and rude sometimes. But it is always in response to something asinine. Us "rude" people are also the ones that spend our time reading nutrition articles and research papers, then applying them by sharing them with less informed people on the forums. We are also the ones in the gym getting stronger and fitter.

So for those that think there is so much negativity around here, have you ever helped anyone on here? Have you taken the time to run TDEE calcs for another person and answer their nutrition questions in private? No? I bet most of the rude people have.

To answer your question: I've only been here for less than a week, so no. I'm still at the very early stages of my journey, so I don't consider myself well-equipped to give others advice just yet.

astartig

Isn't this supposed to be a place of support? Time after time I see threads of success and someone rips them a new one for doing it differently then themselves. TDEE isn't for everyone. Paleo isn't for everyone. High carb high sugar eat everything in moderation isn't for everyone. But, no, people with zero medical skill pipe in about how wrong someone's diet choices are. Seriously, how awful is that? Can't we just say, "RIGHT ON!" and move along? What kind of a support system IS this?!

WHERE ARE MY POSITIVE PEOPLE AT?!

I agree

YesIAm17

because they r horny and need some sex in their life.

You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. Which is it?



P.S. I am currently accepting friend requests :laugh: