Women, why must it be so?

latenitelucy

This is seriously the funniest thing I've ever read in my entire life! Who has forced a gun to your head and made you shop in the broom and dust pan isle?

Whenever I go out to the mall or any store that has toys, it's an obvious pink explosion of domestic crap. My boyfriend and I have talked about this idea for years whenever we go to those stores and see it. Maybe you aren't opening your eyes to the truth of the matter.

Sure there are some rare items that are for girls that don't include that sexist crap, but the majority of the toys ARE based on stereotypes.

There are plenty of articles about my observation. Do a Google search.

Honey, you are gonna have a stroke or an ulcer, but probably no fun.

Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They do not apply to all. Nobody claimed they did.

ETA: I hope a smart woman, such as yourself doesn't see "Honey" as demeaning, but rather my southern charm.

determined_erin

Unlike you, I won't rush off and do something just because someone tells me to do it. It's called consumerism. Stop falling prey. Be strong.

"You can do it. "

When did I ever rush off and do something that someone told me to do?

ldrosophila

I know this is supposed to be a silly thread, but this is one of my least favorite stereotypes so I want to counter it. I organize a women's policy conference and am part of many workgroups, volunteer organizations, and research teams that are made up of almost entirely women. The hallmarks of all of these groups: awesome problem solving, mutual support, and teamwork. IMHO, any woman who thinks women "hate eachother" should look at what she herself is putting out into the world.

Accurate.

The problem is that society plays with everyone's heads. Tells everyone that stereotyping is okay, and that it's not important for us to listen to problems (like the stereotypes in this thread) and listen to *each other*. Society tells men that it's okay to tell women to go make them a sandwich as a "joke." It's all ridiculous.

You have a very good point if someone put up a stereotypical "joke" about race or ethnicity then it wouldn't be funny and quickly reported. I guess a gender joke is OK? I never know what is right and wrong though, but it does seem to be a different set of standards as to what is acceptable and what is not when it comes to gender.

wheird

Duh. I'm gonna use my double points card. You're nothing more than an expedited trip to the Bahamas... with your sister.

Sorry brah, you aren't supposed to use coupons or anything of the sort for dates. Apparently wimmin see that as cheaping out

determined_erin

Honey, you are gonna have a stroke or an ulcer, but probably no fun.

Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They do not apply to all. Nobody claimed they did.

ETA: I hope a smart woman, such as yourself doesn't see "Honey" as demeaning, but rather my southern charm.

My health is quite fine. After all, I'm on MFP bettering my health. I love educating people about sexism. Even changing one person's perspective is worth it. People always fight these ideas because they are raised sexist.

odusgolp

Unlike you, I won't rush off and do something just because someone tells me to do it. It's called consumerism. Stop falling prey. Be strong.

"You can do it. "

When did I ever rush off and do something that someone told me to do?

You're one of those women that thinks it's an insult if a man buys you flowers... Am I Right?

determined_erin

You're one of those women that thinks it's an insult if a man buys you flowers... Am I Right?

No, my bf has gotten me flowers before.

We always pay our own way on things though. I pay for my meals, for example. We treat each other on occasion, though. There are never expectations placed on someone based on gender, which is how it should be in a relationship. Everyone has strong and weak points per person, not per gender.

wheird

Honey, you are gonna have a stroke or an ulcer, but probably no fun.

Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They do not apply to all. Nobody claimed they did.

ETA: I hope a smart woman, such as yourself doesn't see "Honey" as demeaning, but rather my southern charm.

My health is quite fine. After all, I'm on MFP bettering my health. I love educating people about sexism. Even changing one person's perspective is worth it. People always fight these ideas because they are raised sexist.

And you are simply out looking for something to be offended by. If it isn't sexism, you would find another cause to rally behind.

AZ_Gato

Unlike you, I won't rush off and do something just because someone tells me to do it. It's called consumerism. Stop falling prey. Be strong.

"You can do it. "

When did I ever rush off and do something that someone told me to do?

You're one of those women that thinks it's an insult if a man buys you flowers... Am I Right?

I think she's mad because she didn't get G.I. Joe's when she was a girl. Instead she got a pots and pans set. Should have pretended the pan was Duke and the Dish was Cobra Commander.

BinaryPulsar

Well, obviously men go to ducks to find out about women.

I'm beginning to think you're being sarcastic with that statement. I'll be right back, I need to consult Donald, Daffy, and Howard as to the proper response to you.

:laugh:

determined_erin

And you are simply out looking for something to be offended by. If it isn't sexism, you would find another cause to rally behind.

Actually no. I hate politics and most causes. I really only care about feminism.

wheird

Unlike you, I won't rush off and do something just because someone tells me to do it. It's called consumerism. Stop falling prey. Be strong.

"You can do it. "

When did I ever rush off and do something that someone told me to do?

You're one of those women that thinks it's an insult if a man buys you flowers... Am I Right?

I think she's mad because she didn't get G.I. Joe's when she was a girl. Instead she got a pots and pans set. Should have pretended the pan was Duke and the Dish was Cobra Commander.

And used her inherent craft skills to make bead versions of both.

jkowula

Unlike you, I won't rush off and do something just because someone tells me to do it. It's called consumerism. Stop falling prey. Be strong.

"You can do it. "

When did I ever rush off and do something that someone told me to do?

You're one of those women that thinks it's an insult if a man buys you flowers... Am I Right?

I think she's mad because she didn't get G.I. Joe's when she was a girl. Instead she got a pots and pans set. Should have pretended the pan was Duke and the Dish was Cobra Commander.

Stop that.. she is "educating" you on sexism. And I might add, she is going about it the best possible intelligent way. Even if one person changes their perspective from attacks on most everyone here.

Liss_Bee

G.I. JOE the real American herrrrrrrrooo! Sorry just made me laugh and you're right.. Calm down it's just a joke.

bugaha1

I’m lucky I get to work with my daughter who will turns 35 Wednesday and I just told her 35 yrs. ago your mom was fat. I’m a bad boy don’t friend me.

ZombieGeezUs

Honey, you are gonna have a stroke or an ulcer, but probably no fun.

Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They do not apply to all. Nobody claimed they did.

ETA: I hope a smart woman, such as yourself doesn't see "Honey" as demeaning, but rather my southern charm.

My health is quite fine. After all, I'm on MFP bettering my health. I love educating people about sexism. Even changing one person's perspective is worth it. People always fight these ideas because they are raised sexist.

And you are simply out looking for something to be offended by. If it isn't sexism, you would find another cause to rally behind.

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

wheird

And you are simply out looking for something to be offended by. If it isn't sexism, you would find another cause to rally behind.

Actually no. I hate politics and most causes. I really only care about feminism.

That is what I mean. If you lived in a world without any sort of sexism, you would find another cause.

determined_erin

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

It's not meaningless to care about being treated as an equal. My BF is a feminist as well.

arghbowl

And you are simply out looking for something to be offended by. If it isn't sexism, you would find another cause to rally behind.

Actually no. I hate politics and most causes. I really only care about feminism.

In other words you're a liberal/hipster push over with no real agenda other than to cut off penises and destroy sandwich shops once and for all.

Oh, btw, you missed a spot when you vacuumed the other day...

wheird

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

It's not meaningless to care about being treated as an equal. My BF is a feminist as well.

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

arghbowl

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

It's not meaningless to care about being treated as an equal. My BF is a feminist as well.

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

Thank you brah. Somebody had to say it.

determined_erin

In other words you're a liberal/hipster push over with no real agenda other than to cut off penises and destroy sandwich shops once and for all.

Oh, btw, you missed a spot when you vacuumed the other day...

So wanting men and women to be treated equally makes me all of those things? You definitely don't know me at all, then.

Also, I'm a fiscal conservative. I am not a liberal or any of those silly labels.

MissyBenj

Hahahaha, loving all of this!

determined_erin

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

Nope. I have a career. I believe in women and men both having careers and families.

jkowula

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

Nope. I have a career. I believe in women and men both having careers and families.

You know that's not the best environment for kids to be brought up in right? Google it, there are lots of articles....

Liss_Bee

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

It's not meaningless to care about being treated as an equal. My BF is a feminist as well.

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

I was a woman staying at home, BUT I watched other peoples kids for money to keep up my end of the deal... Maybe the man asked for that? Also daycare is expensive, some can justify staying at home to cover the cost depending on what their salary was like before children.

bloominheck

sure, i pee in the shower

Silly man, wrong thread.:glasses:

ZombieGeezUs

This. I actually pity her boyfriend. If she gets this aggressive about pretty meaningless topic such as this, then I can only imagine the hell he goes through when a serious issue arises

It's not meaningless to care about being treated as an equal. My BF is a feminist as well.

For the love of...No one is saying that women shouldn't vote or get equal pay. This isn't 1924. It was said women are complex. Funny thing is, you proved this claim to be true with your ranting. You took a small thing and nuked it out of proportion. This isn't about your Bf being a feminist. I am for gender equality on all levels. This about you getting on a soap box to try to prove you are a "strong woman" when you come off as insecure and unstable.

determined_erin

You know that's not the best environment for kids to be brought up in right? Google it, there are lots of articles....

Well even though I am not with children yet, I do know many people who have families with both parents working. I see no issues in their lives. It may not work for everyone, but surely the female shouldn't be forced to not have a career. Maybe the male can stay home instead.

wheird

Is a woman staying at home to raise her children an equal to her husband who is working to provide?

Nope. I have a career. I believe in women and men both having careers and families.

Therein lies your problem and why I cannot take you seriously as a feminist. They are absolutely equal. Being a SAHM does not make that woman any less than her husband. They have just divided up the responsibilities of their family in a way that they feel works best for them. That is called equitable division of labor. Neither the wife nor the husband is more or less important as they both provide essential services to their family unit.

And the same exact thing would be true if it was a stay at home dad.