You call this a Sexual Predator???

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  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    It's so stupid!
    My nephew lost a job when he was 19 after being accused of harrassment. He has always been a hugger, he hugs everybody! Well, I guess he hugged the wrong person one time. Was NEVER told or warned that it was unwelcome and he was out. You just never know for sure.



    Um, he was 19.
  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,128 Member
    There is no way a 6 year old should be labelled a sexual predator. This is beyond ridiculous, it's potentially damaging. SMH

    He's not. The article never says the words sexual predator. read it.
  • CassandraBurgos83
    CassandraBurgos83 Posts: 544 Member
    You are right, this article didn't say that, but this one and a few others do...



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    It seems that the "Zero Tolerance" policy in American schools have reached the point of sheer madness, now that a six-year-old Colorado Kindergarten student has been accused and found guilty of "sexual harassment" by his school principal.
    Hunter Yelton of Cañon City, Colorado, is six-years-old. The slightly-built youngster with a cute-as-a-button face and infectious grin is not a child you would think to label as a "sexual predator," but apparently his elementary school's "Zero Tolerance" policy says he must be.
    So what did this little "deviant" do? In music class, he playfully "pecked a classmate on the cheek and hand." A few of his classmates saw what happened and ran and told the teacher. By the way, those children must have already been schooled on sexual harassment and other "nasty sex stuff."
    Hunter's mom doesn't understand the big deal, because the two children are playmates and have a "crush" on each other. Jennifer Saunders told local news station, KRDO, ""She was fine with it. The other children saw it and went to the music teacher. That was the day I had the meeting with the principal, where she first said 'sexual harassment'.""
    As with most 6-year-olds, he doesn't know what "sex" means, let alone "sexual harassment." But if the school district superintendent has any say in the matter, he will soon be learning a few new vocabulary words. The superintendent said, " "Hunter's behavior meets the school's criteria for "sexual harassment," and the harsh penalty is necessary so he can mend his ways.""
    Saunders admits that Hunter has had a few "class disruption" problems, and was once suspended for rough-housing and kissing the same little girl on the cheek. But she insists that labeling her son with "sexual harassment" is going too far.
    "How can you do this? How can you say this about my child? Remove sexual harassment, remove it from his record. I'm going to stand up and fight for him because that's not the case, that's not what happened at all," she said.
    Hunter's story has drawn the American public's attention as well as international attention. The absurdity of putting something like "sexual harassment" on a child's school records is not only incredibly ludicrous, but it can affect the child psychologically. Unless that phrase is removed from this little boy's records, it will be a huge red flag, labeling him unjustly for the rest of his school days.
    The big problem here is educators have become so fearful of their jobs, as well as being afraid of doing something that's not considered "politically correct," that they are creating an atmosphere of fear. Most parents teach their children to be kind and friendly, and most come from loving homes where hugs and kisses are normal and welcome signs of affection. But how do we expect parents to tell their little ones they must only show affection at home? Try explaining "That" to a five or six-year-uld.

    Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/363727#ixzz2nBKTWybF
  • somerisagirlsname
    somerisagirlsname Posts: 467 Member
    The school record labeling him as a sexual offender is ridiculous, but the kid needs to be taught not to do that. My brother was super overly affectionate all the way through middle school with his teachers, and it got really awkward.
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    I have a 4.5-year-old stepson in daycare. He's not affectionate with people outside the family, but other kids are affectionate with him. He's quite the little ladies' man(like father, like son?). It seems as if the reverse of this happens, nothing happens because obviously girls can't be guilty of "sexual harassment". He does, in fact, call one of these little girls his "girlfriend" on occasion(of course, which girl changes fairly frequently. Lol), much to the exasperation of his daycare providers. I see these other kids hug him because they're just affectionate, and he stands there stiff as a board like it's the most awkward thing ever. He never hugs back, but he and everyone else around obviously just accepts it as normal. I would assume that he's been kissed by girls, but I know he's just not an affectionate child.

    I have noticed that as children and as adults, males get penalized for behavior that women get away with. While they don't say that the girl actively engaged in conduct like this toward this little boy, I want to know if it would be dismissed as just something that girls do if she kissed HIM. I honestly assume it would be, and that's a little distressing.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    At six years old, the kid doesn't even understand his "crime." PC gone awry!

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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I wouldn't call this "Sexual Harrassment" but the little girl does have the right for him to keep his mouth to himself.

    And in my grade school, boys would hunt down and take off the panties of girls who wore dresses. And the girls didn't "let them do it." But it still happened and the only way it was addressed was that the girls were told not to wear dresses.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    That is terrible! Schools are going way overboard :cry: Poor little guy

    This is what happens when administration disengages brain.

    Sadly though, parents have caused this with their blather for zero tolerance rules.

    Reap/sow. Sadly, but at the end of the day, this is what parents want.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I agree that in this situation it is extreme to call this boy a sexual predator. The federal guidelines on sexual harassment clearly state that "unwelcome" advances are considered sexual harassment. The girl in the case was not bothered by his behavior, therefore, it is not sexual harassment. The school is going under the presumption that she is not entitled to welcome advances. This boy's mother should hire a lawyer.

    However, I will say that it is entirely possible for a child to sexually harass another child. My daughter was repeatedly being smacked on the rearend by a little boy, and she asked him to stop. That was the point it became sexual harassment. When I was in school, a boy repeatedly exposed himself to me. That was sexual harassment. I put all this out here because I have come across adults that feel that it is not possible for a child to sexually harass another child simply because they don't know what sex is. People with that kind of attitude piss me off because they are teaching their sons that that kind of behavior is acceptable, when it isn't.
  • Number_44
    Number_44 Posts: 97 Member
    Times change. Apparently people don't realize this.

    Also, this kid will not be labeled as a sexual predator when he grows up. Or even next year. The title of this topic is dumb.

    Bully
  • ElliottTN
    ElliottTN Posts: 1,614 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    It's so stupid!
    My nephew lost a job when he was 19 after being accused of harrassment. He has always been a hugger, he hugs everybody! Well, I guess he hugged the wrong person one time. Was NEVER told or warned that it was unwelcome and he was out. You just never know for sure.

    Well, when you're on a job, any kind of touching is off limits. Simply because it could lead to a lawsuit that could cost the company a ton of money. So yea, while he may be affectionate, he also needs to know what's socially acceptable. Stepping into someone's comfort zone and touching them, even if it's just a friendly hug, is not something that is going to fly at any job site, unless your job is to hug other people at work.

    PC gone awry.
  • mayaocean
    mayaocean Posts: 355 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    Hello my little croissant
  • MizTerry
    MizTerry Posts: 3,763 Member
    Political correctness gone mad.

    Fight it honey.
  • spectralmoon
    spectralmoon Posts: 1,179 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    Lulz aside, I'm willing to bet my rack that the kid didn't learn a thing from it at six.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    Lulz aside, I'm willing to bet my rack that the kid didn't learn a thing from it at six.

    Well regardless of the offense, I don't personally believe that suspension from school teaches a child anything anyway.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    It's so stupid!
    My nephew lost a job when he was 19 after being accused of harrassment. He has always been a hugger, he hugs everybody! Well, I guess he hugged the wrong person one time. Was NEVER told or warned that it was unwelcome and he was out. You just never know for sure.

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    19yo in the workplace =/= 6yo at school.
  • teamAmelia
    teamAmelia Posts: 1,247 Member
    I don't believe a child that young has the mental capacity to understand sexual harassment.
  • ThriceBlessed
    ThriceBlessed Posts: 499 Member
    Gross overreaction. When I was in second grade things like this were commonplace and were dealt with by redirection and if they really became a problem a student might sit in a corner or sit on a bench during recess. Suspension used to be reserved for really severe problem behaviors, not normal expressions of childhood crushes.

    This boy didn't lift the girls skirt, he didn't hit the girl, he kissed her hand! It didn't even upset the girl, it upset the teacher. I am not saying misbehavior should be ignored, but I'm not sure that suspension is the best way to deal with it.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Well, when you're on a job, any kind of touching is off limits. Simply because it could lead to a lawsuit that could cost the company a ton of money. So yea, while he may be affectionate, he also needs to know what's socially acceptable. Stepping into someone's comfort zone and touching them, even if it's just a friendly hug, is not something that is going to fly at any job site, unless your job is to hug other people at work.


    Maybe he wants a new career, and he's working as an intern for Samantha?


    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/11/professional_cuddler_samantha.html
  • ElliottTN
    ElliottTN Posts: 1,614 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    Hello my little croissant
    (.)(.)
    What's ur chest workout?

    Edited: forgot the boob icon
  • mlb929
    mlb929 Posts: 1,974 Member
    I'll play devils advocate....

    The news never tells the whole story, and I'm sure school officials are in a position of confidentiality and unable to fully discuss it. That said, what other choices do schools have, the newest litigation shows that schools got sued for "Not protecting kids" from an incident very similar. This is nothing new, when I was in grade school we had a kisser, who made us all very uncomfortable and they finally had to remove the kid. He wasn't "labeled" anything, because it just wasn't the times back then to do so. But, I'm sure the mother of the girl doesn't want her daughter subjected to such behavior either, and no mother of a young girl does.

    Before getting up in arms over a new story, maybe it's a better idea to address what is happening in our own lives, our own experiences, and our own world first. School are in a tough position of having to meet everyones expectations all the time, not everyone is going to be right, not everyone is going to be happy. Had the mother of the girl gone to the media with "my daughter is repeatedly sexually harassed at school and administration is doing nothing about it" there are just as many people who would be just as upset.

    It's a sue happy world, if anything, our children need to be taught that unless physical contact is mutual keep your hands to yourself, simple as that.
  • ThriceBlessed
    ThriceBlessed Posts: 499 Member
    It's so stupid!
    My nephew lost a job when he was 19 after being accused of harrassment. He has always been a hugger, he hugs everybody! Well, I guess he hugged the wrong person one time. Was NEVER told or warned that it was unwelcome and he was out. You just never know for sure.



    Um, he was 19.

    My thoughts exactly. You wouldn't expect most First Graders to do algebra, or drive, or hold down a job... but you expect them to act as maturely as a college age kid in other areas?
  • fannyfrost
    fannyfrost Posts: 756 Member
    This is the second incident of a school being ridiculous. A 6 year old has no clue, he is doing what he sees others do, what the school should do is talk to the boy and the parents and explain that unfortunately you can't do that in school. IDIOTS. This PC crap has gone way too far and people are ridiculous about it. I would think the school is now probably under a lot of fire from different people telling them what idiots they are.

    What is worse is that in the High Schools, violence and other behavior is being ignored because the schools don't want it to get into the news that the school is not in control. My daughters school had 2 incidences of students hitting teachers and the school covered it up and not only that told the teachers they were not allowed to involve police. So the school is allowing dangerous behavior to continue just to protect its reputation and other schools are going too far to protect themselves. Either way it is the kids that get hurt in the end.

    I just hope the parents at the school and in other neighborhoods stand up and do something.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    Ok, that is BEYOND ridiculous. First off, a kiss on the hand by a child(or adult) is not sexual in nature. It's pretty cute actually. Second, the little girl consented to the kiss, so there is no harassment involved. Third, THESE ARE KIDS! If they were "playing doctor" behind the bleachers, that would be something to get mad about, but this is an innocent kiss on the hand!

    People are getting more and more dumb and over-reactive!:grumble:
  • ThriceBlessed
    ThriceBlessed Posts: 499 Member
    Ok, that is BEYOND ridiculous. First off, a kiss on the hand by a child(or adult) is not sexual in nature. It's pretty cute actually. Second, the little girl consented to the kiss, so there is no harassment involved. Third, THESE ARE KIDS! If they were "playing doctor" behind the bleachers, that would be something to get mad about, but this is an innocent kiss on the hand!

    People are getting more and more dumb and over-reactive!:grumble:
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  • mayaocean
    mayaocean Posts: 355 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    Hello my little croissant
    (.)(.)
    What's ur chest workout?

    Edited: forgot the boob icon

    I just eat clen and tren hard
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I think Hunter learned a valuable life lesson through this: The only women you can ever trust in your lifetime is your mom.

    QFT

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  • sixout
    sixout Posts: 3,128 Member
    Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that he's had previous encounters, and been suspended before. Also, sexual harassment doesn't equal being a sexual predator.

    But if people were reasonable, this would be an MFP forum topic, so I guess carry on with not really talking about what happened, and acting like kids will be kids. Things like that are why kids grow up thinking there's no penalty for things that they do.
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