Is chivalry really dead? :(

eric_sg61

No......it's not really needed as many girls will "give it up", with not much effort....

Bingo. "Girls" like that type of treatment. " women" like to be respected and treated like ladies.

It's also a shame a guy would see chivalry as just something to get a woman into bed.

Ever wonder why guys are more chivalrous towards the more attractive females....................

ItsMeGee3

The difference between "girls" and "ladies". and "boys" and "men"!

FatHuMan1

No......it's not really needed as many girls will "give it up", with not much effort....

Bingo. "Girls" like that type of treatment. " women" like to be respected and treated like ladies.

It's also a shame a guy would see chivalry as just something to get a woman into bed.

Ever wonder why guys are more chivalrous towards the more attractive females....................

Ha. Chivalry - the male equivalent of animal rights activists only fighting for the "cute" animals.

Jimaudit

I love when a thread about being nice turns into a bash fest.....you guys are awesome!

And I especially love when people believe social media is reality.

DamePiglet

No......it's not really needed as many girls will "give it up", with not much effort....

Bingo. "Girls" like that type of treatment. " women" like to be respected and treated like ladies.

It's also a shame a guy would see chivalry as just something to get a woman into bed.

Ever wonder why guys are more chivalrous towards the more attractive females....................

Um, no.
You're suggesting that elderly people are more attractive?

Sinisterly

I love when a thread about being nice turns into a bash fest.....you guys are awesome!

And I especially love when people believe social media is reality.

YOU MEAN IT'S NOT REAL?!?!?!
I have been living a lie!!!!

DamePiglet

No......it's not really needed as many girls will "give it up", with not much effort....

Bingo. "Girls" like that type of treatment. " women" like to be respected and treated like ladies.

It's also a shame a guy would see chivalry as just something to get a woman into bed.

Ever wonder why guys are more chivalrous towards the more attractive females....................

Ha. Chivalry - the male equivalent of animal rights activists only fighting for the "cute" animals.

I love this! Only domestic animals have souls!!!

Number_44

I don't believe its dead, my hubby still opens the door for me and always unlocks my door for the car first.. :}

Dont worry. Technology will eventually do away with this.

Number_44

I love when a thread about being nice turns into a bash fest.....you guys are awesome!

And I especially love when people believe social media is reality.

Because you are a fake person and do not exist?

Thanks for letting us all know your post isnt real. *hands you a candy cane*

crispsandwich

I guess I fail to see the conflict between chivalry and equality.

Chivalry is a way of treating people...

Equality is allowing people an equal opportunity for achievement.

Men who hold back chivalry in the name of equality do so out of holding a grudge, or because they don't like showing respect to women in the first place.

But that's just my opinion.

I like you.

me tooo!!

Toblave

Any man who doesn't behave in a "chivalrous" fashion or does only to get a woman into bed isn't worth spit IMO.

When out socially I will always open doors, offer to carry packages, offer my seat, rise when a woman enters the room and gets up or joins my table. In my home my wife and any other women are always served first and no one eats until my wife picks up her fork.

While I do not do all of these things while at work, especially in meetings, as it could be seen as sexist; I do them all outside of it for every woman.

Slacker16

Since a lot of people mentioned chivalry as being feudal, it's worth pointing out that "chivalry" was originally nothing more than a code of conduct of fighting men towards other fighting men. Women, children and the elderly were not part of the equation in any way.

During the Middle Ages, the Church pushed the idea that it was more honourable for noblemen to protect rather than exploit non-combatants, the whole "defender of the widow and the orphan" thing.

The idea extended itself to the behaviour of noblemen towards (noble) women (as noncombatants), but its primary goal was to discourage pillaging and the killing of civilians.

Since this was the first time (as far as I know) that these ideas appeared in Europe, you can argue that it is the great-great-great-grandfather of the Geneva Convention. You could say that chivalry will never be dead as long as that exists.

daniellemm1

I don't believe its dead, my hubby still opens the door for me and always unlocks my door for the car first.. :}

My husband does the same!!! When it is pouring rain and we run to the car I have to tell him to go ahead and get in his side or he would stand there and get soaked to let me in first.

ItsCasey

Any man who doesn't behave in a "chivalrous" fashion or does only to get a woman into bed isn't worth spit IMO.

When out socially I will always open doors, offer to carry packages, offer my seat, rise when a woman enters the room and gets up or joins my table. In my home my wife and any other women are always served first and no one eats until my wife picks up her fork.

While I do not do all of these things while at work, especially in meetings, as it could be seen as sexist; I do them all outside of it for every woman.

Well said, and this is the key to the whole thing. People are confusing manners and mating signals with the right to vote and earn equal pay for equal work. Being civilly and professionally equal does not necessitate being socially genderless.

rml_16

I think it's funny that my fiance will open doors for me when other people are looking, but not when no one is around.

I tease him about it all the time.

But he does take out the garbage and fix things and lift heavy things and get stuff off high shelves, so it's still around in different ways.

MM_1982

I think it's funny that my fiance will open doors for me when other people are looking, but not when no one is around.

That alone speaks volumes about your relationship.

_funrungirl

I think chivalry and and equality can co-exist. Equality is about legal and work-rights, chivalry is about being a courteous human being,

DamePiglet

I think it's funny that my fiance will open doors for me when other people are looking, but not when no one is around.

That alone speaks volumes about your relationship.

That they have a running joke?

rml_16

I think it's funny that my fiance will open doors for me when other people are looking, but not when no one is around.

That alone speaks volumes about your relationship.

That means so much coming from you, of all people. :flowerforyou:

Ozzyopolis

This post is great. It outs all the dudebros to make them easier to avoid.

delicious_cocktail

When out socially I will always open doors, offer to carry packages, offer my seat, rise when a woman enters the room and gets up or joins my table. In my home my wife and any other women are always served first and no one eats until my wife picks up her fork.

. . .

dayone987

Any man who doesn't behave in a "chivalrous" fashion or does only to get a woman into bed isn't worth spit IMO.

When out socially I will always open doors, offer to carry packages, offer my seat, rise when a woman enters the room and gets up or joins my table. In my home my wife and any other women are always served first and no one eats until my wife picks up her fork.

While I do not do all of these things while at work, especially in meetings, as it could be seen as sexist; I do them all outside of it for every woman.

Well said, and this is the key to the whole thing. People are confusing manners and mating signals with the right to vote and earn equal pay for equal work. Being civilly and professionally equal does not necessitate being socially genderless.

To me, people are confusing manners with chivalry. If it was about manners, men would do all those nice things for men and women.
Why do men who consider themselves chivalrous do these things for women only?

SpeSHul_SnoflEHk

Yes. It died after the medieval times.

dbmata

Oh I missed this thread. It's been weeks since it's been posted.

TeamDale1

Not with me. I always put women before my selfish self.

dbmata

No......it's not really needed as many girls will "give it up", with not much effort....

Bingo. "Girls" like that type of treatment. " women" like to be respected and treated like ladies.

It's also a shame a guy would see chivalry as just something to get a woman into bed.

Ever wonder why guys are more chivalrous towards the more attractive females....................

Ever wonder why guys shower, shave, and wear clean clothes? :laugh:

AmykinsCatfood

I don't believe its dead, my hubby still opens the door for me and always unlocks my door for the car first.. :}

So does my best friend who also happens to be a lady. That is just common courtesy. Which is almost dead as well.

BobOki

With equal rights comes equal treatment. Unless females are going to start acting chivalrous towards men, then yes, it should be dead.
Now, not acting like an *kitten* and being polite should be global.

DMZ_1

I don't think it is dead, but it is dying. At least the interpretation of chivalry present in modern Western society of opening the doors for women and generally being courteous towards women is dying. Why dying? Because men are realizing these behaviors are not necessarily rewarded.

Bry_Fitness70

Chivalry is different than politeness. Chivalry is opening the chariot door for a lass, helping her on and off her horse, taking off your riding jacket and placing it over a mud puddle, picking up her kerchief if she drops it, defending her honor by slapping a ruffian’s face with your riding glove and engaging in a duel, etc. Politeness is holding the door open as you pass through, saying “thank you” following a polite gesture by another, saying “excuse me” if you bump into or interrupt someone, using your turn signal when turning or changing lanes, RSVP’g by the stated deadline, etc.

Women rejected chivalry (in its modern adaptations as well) when they embraced the pursuit of absolute equality, but are certainly entitled to politeness, just like everyone else.