Don't forget to get your flu shot!

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  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
    Stopped getting them this past year. Everytime I recieved one, I would get sick a few days later.
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
    This is fricken offensive!!! Mind your own business and don't tell, or even suggest, that other people get medical treatments. As a person who has been injured by this vaccine, along with my child who had a severe reaction from the shedding of the FluMist vaccine that her classmates received, I am VERY, VERY offended by this post.

    For those who do want to get ANY vaccine, READ THE INSERTS at the very least.
    Wow lady! I did not find it offensive at all. Perhaps you should have replaced the flu shot with a "chill pill":)
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    The CDC says wear seat belts in cars. But Paul Walker was wearing a seat belt and it didn't save him.
    The CDC says wear helmets on motorcycles. But in 2010, 88% of motorcycle fatalities in states with helmet laws were riders wearing helmets.
    The CDC says get a flu shot. HA!
  • ajaxe432
    ajaxe432 Posts: 608 Member
    The CDC says wear seat belts in cars. But Paul Walker was wearing a seat belt and it didn't save him.
    The CDC says wear helmets on motorcycles. But in 2010, 88% of motorcycle fatalities in states with helmet laws were riders wearing helmets.
    The CDC says get a flu shot. HA!
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The CDC says wear seat belts in cars. But Paul Walker was wearing a seat belt and it didn't save him.
    The CDC says wear helmets on motorcycles. But in 2010, 88% of motorcycle fatalities in states with helmet laws were riders wearing helmets.
    The CDC says get a flu shot. HA!

    You're on a roll.
  • micktbaby
    micktbaby Posts: 29 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.

    Well you have that right, assuming you don't work in many healthcare professions. Most of them are actually required to get the flu shot.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    The winter season is upon us so I just wanted to give everyone a friendly reminder to get vaccinated this holiday season against this
    year's flu strain.

    Thanks, but not thanks.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.

    Well you have that right, assuming you don't work in many healthcare professions. Most of them are actually required to get the flu shot.

    Or the military, or childcare/teaching professions.
  • coretemp
    coretemp Posts: 1,796 Member
    I don't get the flu shot and won't ever. I'm not worried about catching it from other people. If I get it, I get it.

    To the person inferring people like me are hypocrites from not getting the flu shot while getting MMR shots, last I knew, the flu shot wasn't legally mandatory in order to attend U.S./Canadian schools.

    No, wasn't inferring that people like you are hypocrites, just pointing out that getting a flu shot is no less different in order to help protect your health - or would you adamantly turn down MMR/ Pertussis vaccines too given the chance?

    A good bout of swine flu - and you won't miss a flu shot again, LOL

    H1N1(Swine flu) and the influenza vaccination aren't the same thing.. Unless they've made a hybrid vaccine that combines them all I am unaware of.
    Besides, Good bout of swine flu will make sure you don't get the swine flu again- that's what our immune systems are designed to do, build antibodies against the viruses.... in essence, catching the flu will ensure you don't catch that particular strain of flu again :P

    sorry, separate shots, that's correct, had them both - ftr - I'm not opposed to people who choose not to get vaccinated against the flu - by all means feel free to catch and fight it off! : P
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.

    Well you have that right, assuming you don't work in many healthcare professions. Most of them are actually required to get the flu shot.

    Or the military, or childcare/teaching professions.

    Isn't that interesting. All of the professions where it's really critical to minimize the amount of sick time employees have off mandate flu shots.

    Go figure. Clearly the flu shot increases the odds that you get sick and miss work. Wait.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    I'm a nurse, but my facility does not require flu shots.... which means I will not get one.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I'm a nurse, but my facility does not require flu shots.... which means I will not get one.

    I'm sure your patients will really appreciate you exposing them to the flu if you do actually get it.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    I'm a nurse, but my facility does not require flu shots.... which means I will not get one.

    I'm sure your patients will really appreciate you exposing them to the flu if you do actually get it.

    I work in group homes- and they all have their flu shots.
  • Aeriel
    Aeriel Posts: 864 Member
    And remember, kids, it only protects against some of the more common or more severe strains, not every flu. So getting sick anyway is a crappy reason not to get one. Maybe you get an uncommon strain, but at least you won't get that AND swine flu or whatever it is this year.

    If you care about being a decent human being and protecting old people/kids/immunocompromised people you encounter, just get the stupid shot unless you have a legit medical reason of your own...which you probably don't.

    People who trot out tired anecdotes about "getting sick anyway" or "the shot makes me sick" try my patience severely.


    How about I don't catch the flu......ever.......so why would I inject myself with it? I have not had the flu since 1988 or 1989. My kids don't get it due to egg allergies. And they don't catch the flu either. Yes we get head colds, but that is it.
  • CallMeCupcakeDammit
    CallMeCupcakeDammit Posts: 9,377 Member
    I got mine in nov...I had the flu last week...

    Happens to everyone I know who gets a flu shot...hence the reason I've never done it...

    Yep. In 20 years I've had the flu twice, and both times it was after I got the flu shot. I was out of work for a week the last time, so I'm done with those damn shots.

    So..... you think getting the flu shot gave you the flu? Is that what you're saying here?

    20 years is a long enough span of time, so yeah, I'm gonna go with...yeah. Both times I was the only one in my family who got sick, and as sick as I was the last time, there's no way I'm risking it again. And exactly what jof said.

    Well here's the question: is it possible that you would change your mind about that?

    That means I would have to be willing to risk getting sick again. Both times, I had all the symptoms of the flu, plus vomiting. The last time I threw up for 5 days, and it took that long before my fever broke. Both times it was within 2-3 days of receiving the vaccine. I'm not saying nobody should get it, I just don't think the reaction I've had to the vaccine makes it worth it to me. Did I just give you a politician's response, or did that cover it?
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    The winter season is upon us so I just wanted to give everyone a friendly reminder to get vaccinated this holiday season against this year's flu strain.

    Happy Monday!

    Sorry OP, it took ONE page for this thread to go insane.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.

    Well you have that right, assuming you don't work in many healthcare professions. Most of them are actually required to get the flu shot.

    Or the military, or childcare/teaching professions.

    Isn't that interesting. All of the professions where it's really critical to minimize the amount of sick time employees have off mandate flu shots.

    Go figure. Clearly the flu shot increases the odds that you get sick and miss work. Wait.

    I suspect this has more to do with the level of bureaucracy/hierarchy in these fields than a results-based decision.

    I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain it plays a part in this.

    If your theory was correct, they probably wouldn't just vaccinate for the predicted three strains, but would require immunization for lesser-likely strains as well.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    The winter season is upon us so I just wanted to give everyone a friendly reminder to get vaccinated this holiday season against this year's flu strain.

    Happy Monday!

    Sorry OP, it took ONE page for this thread to go insane.

    (LOL. You say that like his desire for this thread was for a totally sane discussion. :drinker: )
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I suspect this has more to do with the level of bureaucracy/hierarchy in these fields than a results-based decision.

    I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain it plays a part in this.

    Turns out you are wrong! Go look at the data.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    The idea here is that we all have the freedom to choose. I would completely support your right to take a flu shot. I will continue to utilize own right to decline. The mod comment discredits your ability to debate the topic with intelligence. I'm out.

    Well you have that right, assuming you don't work in many healthcare professions. Most of them are actually required to get the flu shot.

    Or the military, or childcare/teaching professions.

    Isn't that interesting. All of the professions where it's really critical to minimize the amount of sick time employees have off mandate flu shots.

    Go figure. Clearly the flu shot increases the odds that you get sick and miss work. Wait.

    Yeah, I've argued this point before, to no avail.

    FWIW, never had the flu in my life. Never got the flu shot until it was required of me in 2008, and have gotten the shot every year since.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I suspect this has more to do with the level of bureaucracy/hierarchy in these fields than a results-based decision.

    I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain it plays a part in this.

    Turns out you are wrong! Go look at the data.

    Whose/what data? (I'm trying to imagine what source data it would take to convince me that the power of the military bureaucracy doesn't play a role in their requirements for immunizations...but this could be tainted based on my father's required "immunizations" during his time in Nam. They have a pretty strong record of skewing their priorities. But I guess that is arguably what's in play here as well. Also, I'm convinced that if the PTB thought they could get away with making it mandatory for everyone in the country, they would...which tells me all that is stopping them is the necessary "bureaucracy" to make it happen.)

    /rambling paragraph
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

    It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

    It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

    There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I suspect this has more to do with the level of bureaucracy/hierarchy in these fields than a results-based decision.

    I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain it plays a part in this.

    Turns out you are wrong! Go look at the data.

    Whose/what data? (I'm trying to imagine what source data it would take to convince me that the power of the military bureaucracy doesn't play a role in their requirements for immunizations...but this could be tainted based on my father's required "immunizations" during his time in Nam. They have a pretty strong record of skewing their priorities. But I guess that is arguably what's in play here as well. Also, I'm convinced that if the PTB thought they could get away with making it mandatory for everyone in the country, they would...which tells me all that is stopping them is the necessary "bureaucracy" to make it happen.)

    /rambling paragraph

    You went from "more to do with" to "play a role."

    Yawn. Pick one.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I have never had one and won't until it is "required" which should be very soon under government run healthcare.

    It's not mandatory anywhere else there is socialised healthcare...

    There is no socialized (or "government-run") healthcare in the US either.

    Government-required healthcare...

    ...so they apparently make the "requirement" rules...

    ...so I'm going to say that's close enough to "government-run" for purposes of this discussion.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    and being in the military he was required to get it every year...


    Mandatory Diptheria, Hepatitis, Yellow Fever and Rabies shots, but other than that not even the anthrax shot was mandatory.

    Bollox to getting a flu shot as mandatory
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I suspect this has more to do with the level of bureaucracy/hierarchy in these fields than a results-based decision.

    I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably certain it plays a part in this.

    Turns out you are wrong! Go look at the data.

    Whose/what data? (I'm trying to imagine what source data it would take to convince me that the power of the military bureaucracy doesn't play a role in their requirements for immunizations...but this could be tainted based on my father's required "immunizations" during his time in Nam. They have a pretty strong record of skewing their priorities. But I guess that is arguably what's in play here as well. Also, I'm convinced that if the PTB thought they could get away with making it mandatory for everyone in the country, they would...which tells me all that is stopping them is the necessary "bureaucracy" to make it happen.)

    /rambling paragraph

    You went from "more to do with" to "play a role."

    Yawn. Pick one.

    I'm not locked into a pie chart here. I'm confident about "play a role" and suspect "more to do with"...but honestly, they're both more hunches than they are well-researched conclusions.

    I'm not going into battle with these positions...just sharing my current thoughts on the topic...

    ...on the MFP CCF&G forum.

    *shrug*
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    and being in the military he was required to get it every year...


    Mandatory Diptheria, Hepatitis, Yellow Fever and Rabies shots, but other than that not even the anthrax shot was mandatory.

    Bollox to getting a flu shot as mandatory

    Maybe not in the UK, but in the US:

    http://www.army.mil/article/86821/

    "All Soldiers, including active duty, Reserve, and National Guard, are required to be vaccinated against influenza annually."
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    The winter season is upon us so I just wanted to give everyone a friendly reminder to get vaccinated this holiday season against this year's flu strain.

    Happy Monday!

    Sorry OP, it took ONE page for this thread to go insane.

    (LOL. You say that like his desire for this thread was for a totally sane discussion. :drinker: )

    Of course not. Was just a PSA. :smile: